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jamesm 02-08-2014 02:54 PM

Revworks turbo 10k update
 
I'm about to roll over 10k miles on the revworks kit, and i'm pretty sure they're going to be widely available within the next few months, so here's an update as to how it's been working out for me.

As many of you know i had some major tuning issues when the kit was first installed that culminated in my total loss of faith in the tuner and the decision to just do the damn thing myself. That was the best decision i've made in a long time, and now the car runs like a top. It took me a few months of fiddling to figure it all out and get everything dialed in to my liking, but now i have a solid repeatable process and can do the same for my friends relatively quickly and to great effect, so it was worth all the late nights. It's been a great opportunity to gain experience tuning cars, after many years of tuning sportbikes and other powersports-y stuff.

It turned out the problem wasn't the MAF tube, or the fueling components, or anything else. The guy was just applying a fatally flawed process, and frankly had no clue what he was doing with an 86. By all accounts he's a great tuner, but this isn't an Evo and it requires a fundamentally different process to get right. I've looked over the original BRZEdit tune that the car was run on, and it's very clear the guy just didn't take into account the fact that the car has two fuel systems. Even with 6 months of blind flailing it wouldn't have ever been right. But it is now, so with that out of the way....

The kit itself has been nearly flawless. The only issue i've ran into was a coolant line that rubbed against an idler pulley. Fixed with a zip tie, no harm done. Drivability on the gtx2867r is fantastic, spool is instant, and the around-town performance leaves very little to be desired (especially on e85). Absolutely no cooling or overheating issues, even with 100% stock cooling system (not even an oil cooler) in stop-and-go traffic during the hot florida summer. The kit required absolutely no modification whatsoever to the factory crash structure, which was important to me. Fit and finish is fantastic as Scott (their head tech) is pretty damn picky when it comes to that sort of thing, and it shows. They put a lot of time and effort into the work that they do, and they don't cut corners. That's hard to find these days unfortunately. Overall i couldn't be more impressed, and i'm extremely happy that I went the route i did having them prototype the kit on my car.

As far as negatives, there are a couple. First and foremost, the gtx2867r compressor housing doesn't have a proper bung to drill and tap for a high pressure boost source, so fitting a 3-port boost control solenoid requires using a Garrett QuickTap in the coupler attaching the compressor to the first intercooler pipe. Not a huge deal, but it's something i wish it would've had. Also, the intake doesn't have a vacuum nipple. This means that you can't run a recirculated catch can on the breather side. Again not an issue since i never recirculate anyway, and prefer to use a dual-vented catch can (which they are producing now btw). If you wanted to use one you would have to tap one in yourself.

Going forward i'm going to be testing a larger turbo, just because i can :). It'll be a gtx3076r. after tuning @Sportsguy83's KAB kit with the 3076, my fears of lag have been blown out of the water, so i'm jealous and feel the need to upgrade. Also i plan to build the engine at some point, and the extra overhead will be nice to have.

Once the kit is available i recommend that anyone in the market give it a hard look. It's a great piece of kit, and the quality is as good as anything you can get. If they're able to price it the way they want to, it'll be one hell of a deal too ;).

6-Shift 02-08-2014 03:03 PM

Great writeup!

mrk1 02-08-2014 03:03 PM

nice, I look forward to the 3076. I don't get why more housing don't include a solid place to tap for the reference line. Ive been putting off drilling mine.

jamesm 02-08-2014 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrk1 (Post 1513992)
nice, I look forward to the 3076. I don't get why more housing don't include a solid place to tap for the reference line. Ive been putting off drilling mine.

i went to pull mine off to drill and saw there wasn't a place to do it. went online and looked at others, they didn't have one either. it really baffles me. maybe because the housing is smaller on the 28's and there isn't room? i don't really know, but at least it's easy to remedy with the quicktap.

tg_1981 02-08-2014 03:32 PM

@jamesm you left out the smoking tail pipe caused by the breather

SmsAlSuwaidi 02-08-2014 03:34 PM

When you do upgrade to a 3076 will you do the bigger ar or go with a .63 ?

cdrazic93 02-08-2014 03:48 PM

On the kit you paid for: what kind of pricing are we talking about, like JDL intro pricing or PTuning intro pricing?

lbroskee 02-08-2014 03:52 PM

@jamesm so u have ur waste gate just running to the silicone hose? i thought about that since my turbo isn't pre tapped and idk how comfortable i am with doing that even tho Toni told me it'll b fine, but was curious how good it will work at the hose

lbroskee 02-08-2014 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 1514093)
On the kit you paid for: what kind of pricing are we talking about, like JDL intro pricing or PTuning intro pricing?

ur looking at over 5K from what i was told

jamesm 02-08-2014 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tg_1981 (Post 1514053)
@jamesm you left out the smoking tail pipe caused by the breather

that's not really related to the kit though, and would be the case even if it weren't turbocharged. what he's referring to is that my pcv valve keeps getting clogged with oil and causing smoking under deceleration. it's due to inadequate ventilation from the stock breather/pcv, and my having removed the line connecting the pcv to the manifold (which would've pulled vacuum at idle and cleared the valve). an alternative would be to keep the manifold line hooked up and run an inline check valve, which i did for a while. i lost the check valve when i removed it a while ago and haven't been able to find it to put it back on. you can't just leave the line hooked up to the pcv without a check valve because the pcv valve will leak boost into the crankcase.

the best solution (which i'll do soon) is to replace the pcv with a straight-through fitting and run both the breather and what was the pcv to a dual vented catch can. simply running the catch can without replacing the pcv with a fitting would likely cause the same issues over time.

jamesm 02-08-2014 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 1514066)
When you do upgrade to a 3076 will you do the bigger ar or go with a .63 ?

i'll probably stick with a 0.63

jamesm 02-08-2014 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdrazic93 (Post 1514093)
On the kit you paid for: what kind of pricing are we talking about, like JDL intro pricing or PTuning intro pricing?

i'll let them announce that when the time comes, but suffice to say it should be significantly cheaper than the equivalent full blown premium kit.

SmsAlSuwaidi 02-08-2014 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesm (Post 1514108)
i'll probably stick with a 0.63


Hopefully ill haz numbers in 2 to 3 weeks :)


Sent from my IBrick

lexusb3 02-08-2014 08:44 PM

looks like i have local competition :) im soon to upgrade to a NEW MONSTER TURBO as well just havent made my mind up yet..nice job tho :respekt:!


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