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kjdd787 02-04-2014 05:00 PM

I need help with camber
 
Hey guys I'm completely new to camber so I'm really lost do I need just lca's or lca's and coils please help I like slammed look but I'm not willing to go that low I would like to get out of my driveway without planks I'm not going to track the car hopefully more of a show car but it is a dd

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sshole 02-04-2014 05:05 PM

To go low, you will need either air suspension or coilovers.

To get your wheel/tire alignment within reason (so your car goes straight when the steering wheel is at 0), you will need camber, toe, and if possible caster adjustment as well. This is where products like an adjustable lower control arm and offset bushings come into play.

If you cannot understand the difference between coilovers and LCAs, you shouldn't be futzing around with your suspension at all. Read and learn first.

kjdd787 02-04-2014 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sshole (Post 1503725)
To go low, you will need either air suspension or coilovers.

To get your wheel/tire alignment within reason (so your car goes straight when the steering wheel is at 0), you will need camber, toe, and if possible caster adjustment as well. This is where products like an adjustable lower control arm and offset bushings come into play.

If you cannot understand the difference between coilovers and LCAs, you shouldn't be futzing around with your suspension at all. Read and learn first.

Ik the difference between the two I just don't get weather to add camber with camber plates or lca's

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sshole 02-04-2014 05:14 PM

That's an issue of if you're looking to have adjustability in the front of the vehicle (camber plates, camber bolts, full-on-race-ready-LCA) or in the rear of the vehicle (LCA, camber bushings).

FR-S Matt 02-04-2014 05:15 PM

LCA's control the rear camber/toe depending on the one you get.

You do need them together with coilovers unless you do not go low. Otherwise, you will have crazy negative camber in the rear (-2.5 and higher). I had almost -3 camber in the rear after lowering with stock arms.

Wepeel 02-04-2014 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 1503768)
I had almost -3 camber in the rear after lowering with stock arms.

How low was that?

FR-S Matt 02-04-2014 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wepeel (Post 1503832)
How low was that?

1.3-1.5

mav1178 02-04-2014 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjdd787 (Post 1503748)
Ik the difference between the two I just don't get weather to add camber with camber plates or lca's

Unfortunately you still don't understand enough to know what the answer was:

Camber is modified by:

camber plates (upper mounts w/ front coilovers)
eccentric bolts ("crash bolts")
front LCA (rare but possible)
rear LCA
rear adjustable arms
lowering the car
etc

You can pick your poison. But if these are still unclear to you, you need to figure out what you want to do because "I like slammed look but I'm not willing to go that low I would like to get out of my driveway without planks" is about as vague as "I want eggs for breakfast but I don't like yolk but I'm okay with sunny side up"

We need context, such as:
your driveway entrance (how steep it may be)
what is "slammed" to you?
what is your definition of "slammed" vs "not willing to go that low"
etc

Fill in the blanks, please, because there's so many of them.

-alex

kjdd787 02-04-2014 07:17 PM

Ok so to clear things up to me slammed is on the floor but I want to go as low as possible without scraping everything it would be nice to make it over a speed bump

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kjdd787 02-04-2014 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 1504044)
Unfortunately you still don't understand enough to know what the answer was:

Camber is modified by:

camber plates (upper mounts w/ front coilovers)
eccentric bolts ("crash bolts")
front LCA (rare but possible)
rear LCA
rear adjustable arms
lowering the car
etc

You can pick your poison. But if these are still unclear to you, you need to figure out what you want to do because "I like slammed look but I'm not willing to go that low I would like to get out of my driveway without planks" is about as vague as "I want eggs for breakfast but I don't like yolk but I'm okay with sunny side up"

We need context, such as:
your driveway entrance (how steep it may be)
what is "slammed" to you?
what is your definition of "slammed" vs "not willing to go that low"
etc

Fill in the blanks, please, because there's so many of them.

-alex

And my driveway is not steep at all but I see slammed cars with problems pulling into a parking lot with a .5 inch bump





Quote:

Originally Posted by kjdd787 (Post 1504093)
Ok so to clear things up to me slammed is on the floor but I want to go as low as possible without scraping everything it would be nice to make it over a speed bump

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kjdd787 02-04-2014 07:19 PM

Sorry for my dumb questions

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wparsons 02-04-2014 09:44 PM

To adjust front camber you'll need crash/camber bolts or adjustable camber plates. To adjust rear camber you'll need adjustable UCA bushings, adjustable upper control arms (UCA) or adjustable lower control arms (LCA).

kjdd787 02-04-2014 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 1504506)
To adjust front camber you'll need crash/camber bolts or adjustable camber plates. To adjust rear camber you'll need adjustable UCA bushings, adjustable upper control arms (UCA) or adjustable lower control arms (LCA).

Thanks for the clarification I really only n want rear camber with minimal front camber

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wparsons 02-05-2014 08:07 AM

Why do you want rear camber? Are you needing it for clearance with your wheels? Unless you need clearance, or are adjusting camber for grip (with testing hopefully) you should stick close to stock specs.


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