86 vs 15 Golf R ?
 

So, I have been following the STI for a while. Until Detroit reveal.

I heard people said they would pick Golf R over STI.

So I went ahead and check it out.....

It is freaking awesome

So why don't we have this thread already ?

I too am interested in the Golf R. I have always been a fan of the GTI's and Golf R32. Any news or pics? I'm lazy to do a search.

Looks way too plain for a Golf R. Don't know what VW is thinking. This car is probably going to be priced around $35k. But it looks pretty damn similar to it's regular Golf.

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...golf-r-review/

http://www.gtspirit.com/wp-content/u...-R-640x426.jpg

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my r32 was good times :)

not a fan of the new R's. VR6 4 LYFE.

That is the image of a sleeper. I would still pick Golf R over the STI with the Humongus Rice wing, which only work over 100MPH.

Especially if Golf R come with a 5 doors

GTI is a much better value...

But Fail Wheel Drive....................

As a daily driver for the $7k you save who gives a fuck. Besides a little more power and AWD nothing else in that car matters over the GTI

A lot of people would give a fuck obviously.

You can save 7K for STi with FWD. EVO with FWD.

who gives a fuck, huh? Get real.

No there aren't. The R makes nothing for VW while the GTI has been a category winner in the car world for 30 years. And the STI and R are a badge of honor more than value. you can make the lesser just as good for less. You get real.

Realistically, the GTI has gotten SO good that it does somewhat step on the toes on the current Golf R. The way the mk6 pricing was, you essentially were paying ~10k for AWD.

The new Golf R, maybe not so much, with the pretty significant increase in power.

Rewind back to the original R32. It was very distinguishable from a GTI, even from someone who knew nothing about VW's or car. The mk5, a little less so.

Mk6 R and Mk6 GTI - you could barely separate the two, minus the badge/wheels. MK7 R just screams blah to me. So boring, so subtle. meh.

My subjective opinion anyway.

The Golf R interior is in a different league to the STI or EVO, in fact a GTI's is in a different league... but i think comparing the Golf r to the STI is comparing apples and oranges, i'm sure on paper they are similar but they will inevitably drive very different. If i was going to track the car it would have to be an sti, but as something that is quick and will never see a track the golf r is a very good buy...

It's probably tops for a daily driver, but it's a more complex FWD biased AWD system that pushes the curb weight to about 225 kilos more than the GT86 and gets 19/27 in mileage if you have to compare. I really like how the Golf R shed about 45 kilos from its predecessor. I think that people shouldn't have to substantiate things like, "Why did you buy X over Y or Z?" The proper answer is, "Because I like it."

Oh, now we are talking about value and positioning strategy of VW. :lol:

Do you own a GTI? Why are you getting so upset about FWD being Fail Wheel Drive?

Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of pocket rocket hatches. I owned a tuned MS3 for 4 years. When I shopping for my MS3, I cross-shopped it with GTi and MiniS. I modified my MS3 to the point where it was beating lightly modded EVO/STi in the drag race. But, no matter how you put it to sugarcoat it, a Fail Wheel Drive is a Fail Wheel Drive.

If you like it, alright. But don't get to so defensive about it.