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PrimeMotoring 01-23-2014 04:05 PM

PrimeMotoring/Jr Tuned BRZ w/FA20club UEL Turbo Kit 303whp & 228wtq on Pump
 
This is user @Ny Brz car he brought in for us to install and tune his FA20club Turbo Kit featuring Garrett 57 Trim turbo and UEL header. Car has two settings making 265whp & 207wtq on a low boost setting (6-7psi) and 328whp and 247wtq on a high boost setting (11-12 psi).

Im sure Ny Brz will be able to chime in with his thoughts and some videos as well so you can all hear what the UEL headers sound like.

Here is a Mod List of what we put together:

FA20 Club Turbo Kit (57trim)
Unequal Length Manifold
FA20 Club overpipe
FA20 Club EBCS
Invidia Cattless front pipe
Tomei 80mm Single Exit Expreme Cat-Back
DW700cc injectors
DW65c Fuel Pump
Omni 3-bar Map
Perrin Crank Pully

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loogs 01-23-2014 04:15 PM

wow bro. didnt know you were going all out like that. cant wait to it it in person. looks awesome ;)

SmsAlSuwaidi 01-23-2014 04:20 PM

Camera used o,o?

King Tut 01-23-2014 04:26 PM

Seems weird with such a small turbo that the torque is peaking just shy of 7000 RPM. Any boost plots?

PrimeMotoring 01-23-2014 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1474538)
Seems weird with such a small turbo that the torque is peaking just shy of 7000 RPM. Any boost plots?

Actually my mistake and ny caught it, it is a 57 trim t3/t4

jamesm 01-23-2014 04:29 PM

what's going on above 7k? pulling timing or just can't breathe?

PrimeMotoring 01-23-2014 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesm (Post 1474547)
what's going on above 7k? pulling timing or just can't breathe?

You are hitting the restrictions of the kit.

Also updated the thread, made a mistake on numbers and sheets. The car actually made 328whp.

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1750e166.jpg

Ny Brz 01-23-2014 04:45 PM

Here the vid i took on my crappy iPhone, i think @Primemotoring has a better one.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMf0PXaf7dY&feature=share&list=FLKMCLVjjCR DV5CTy93bU2sA"]FA20Club 57 Trim UEL Dyno - YouTube[/ame]

jamesm 01-23-2014 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrimeMotoring (Post 1474567)
You are hitting the restrictions of the kit.

Also updated the thread, made a mistake on numbers and sheets. The car actually made 328whp.

i'm interested to know what restriction you're talking about. it seems weird that the same dip exists at both boost levels if it's an airflow thing. not saying you're wrong, just wondering what you think it may be. this isn't the only one i've seen exhibit the same thing. seems to be a common issue flatlining or losing power above 7k.

King Tut 01-23-2014 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesm (Post 1474582)
i'm interested to know what restriction you're talking about. it seems weird that the same dip exists at both boost levels if it's an airflow thing. not saying you're wrong, just wondering what you think it may be. this isn't the only one i've seen exhibit the same thing. seems to be a common issue flatlining or losing power above 7k.

What cars have you seen make more power north of 7000 RPM would be a better question. I think it is just a limitation of the head and the cams. My car peaked at around 7000 RPM in horsepower but the torque plateau started just after 4000 RPM all the way to 7000 RPM.

PrimeMotoring 01-23-2014 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesm (Post 1474582)
i'm interested to know what restriction you're talking about. it seems weird that the same dip exists at both boost levels if it's an airflow thing. not saying you're wrong, just wondering what you think it may be. this isn't the only one i've seen exhibit the same thing. seems to be a common issue flatlining or losing power above 7k.

By restrictions I mean the design...the UEL headers are really a novelty for sound not for performance. We have tuned 10-15 other FA20club cars with EL headers and the same turbo and they do not do that.

PrimeMotoring 01-23-2014 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1474598)
What cars have you seen make more power north of 7000 RPM would be a better question. I think it is just a limitation of the head and the cams. My car peaked at around 7000 RPM in horsepower but the torque plateau started just after 4000 RPM all the way to 7000 RPM.

the P&L kits keep climbing

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/...psbaf6034d.jpg

King Tut 01-23-2014 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrimeMotoring (Post 1474613)
the P&L kits keep climbing

Can I see a boost plot? Boost creep / boost loss would be my only guess as to the reason why then. I know with my GT2871R I would start loosing some boost pressure in the upper RPM range.

jamesm 01-23-2014 05:20 PM

it's just really weird that you see the exact same thing at two very different boost levels... but like i said i've seen others with the same issue, mostly superchargers.


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