Power By Max LCA's
 

Here's are a few tease shots of the arms installed! I'll do a write up once I have a chance.......btw, these arm's are super nice!

nice. looks to have the same idea behind them as Stance's LCAs.

Like the design. Not a huge fan of the copper color. How much did the cost?

They are like $220 iirc

I'm not sure but I think the rear geo has been shot to hell.

$220 a pair? I don't remember PBM selling thatcheap of parts.

Yes, $220/pair. It was like 30 bucks shipping for me so $250. Not sure about OP though.

I'm about to walk over to their shop right now...

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You know, these arms, and a front camber plates that lower the front height (like GC?) would make an excellent setup on the cheap, using stock struts and springs.

You get front and rear camber adjustment, have lowered the car to get rid of the stock wheel gap, and have retained all the stock shock travel.

If I was working to a sub $1000 budget, I would do that.

You're right. But its no worse than any other lowering at the same height. The advantage of this setup, is you can have a ride height at say 40mm lower, but with the shock travel of a setup with 15mm lower. (Or what ever the figures work out to be)

But yes, you'll still have the effective UCA and LCA arm angles that then goven roll centre as any other setup at 40mm lower. Unless you've modified the UCA/LCA mount points that is.

How are these holding up? Any issues at all?

I have these same PBM LCA's and I haven't had any issues as of yet. If anything, PBM usually has great customer service and back their products well.

(They're half the price of most LCA's anyway.)

Most likely will be ordering a set of these tonight. Where did yours ship from? I've heard california or from sweden.

anyone have an idea of what the camber adjustment is?

Im going to choose either these or Top Speed Autos: http://www.topspeedauto.com/index.ph...arch=scion+frs

I just got a set of these. I can't wait to get them installed.

The only question mark I have with these is how are they less than half the price of everyone else? Is everyone else just crazy overpriced, or do these have sketchy build quality?

Nothing at PBM seems to have the kind if markup that most vendors charge. They look to even be fabbing some if their own parts. So if PBM is a "mfg" selling direct then there's no middleman (vendor) markup. PBM can have better pricing controls and balance costs across their lineup.

Going to be installing these this weekend. Anything I should know about as far as installing these particular LCA's? I did some searching and found info on other brands but nothing on PBM except for this thread.

Have you tried PBMs own forums?
http://www.partsshopmax.com/e107_plu...orum/forum.php

Yeah I looked around but didn't really find much. I just want to pull my camber out a bit (cars pretty low) but I wasn't quiet sure how short to adjust the PBM LCA compared to the stock one. I will probably just set them to a little shorter then stock length to pull some of the camber out and call it a day. Never done an adjustable LCA arm install before so hence the dumb questions.

Try to match stock length as much as possible, install and then get it aligned asap. They'll fix it.

I put these on my car last week. The build quality is excellent and the multiple locking points on the arm is very nice. Great product and the guys at PBM are super helpful. Definitely recommended for anyone on the fence about LCAs.

Is it necessary to run adjustable toe arms on a car with a decent amount of lowering and these control arms? I've noticed some guys run toe arms with LCA and coils while other dudes just run the coils and LCA and that's it.

the rear toes in quite a bit when lowered a lot. theyre good to have when it's questionable. i would say theyre mandatory if you go lower than 1.5 inches.

how much rear camber can you get with these LCA's?

Hold on...

This is a properly noob question here.

You mean you can lower an FRS on 100% stock suspensions just by adding LCA's?
I mean i got the impression by the product description...

THANK THE GODS!!!! these are soooooo mine!!!:coolpics::party0030::confused0068: :party0030:

I will get these instead of the Cusco LCA :):burnrubber:

Just the rear, the front would need some other lowering solution.

Is there anyway to lower the front at all without resorting to changing springs or coils??

I miss my stock suspension's ride....

Top mounted front camber plates (like RaceComps, Ground Control's, or HVTs) lower about 3/8". Nothing else on the market as of yet as far as I know.

Thanks for the info...
Looks like i am stuck with my springs for now..

Powered by max i asked them if they plan on making more kinds of suspension parts for the FR-S etc and i was told in the next few months they will start to have more kinds of parts!!!

So i just installed these lower control arm and wanted to dial in -3.5 rear camber but the shop told me they cant do it because i would need aftermarket toe arms but i see a few members here going up to -4 without aftermarket toe arms. Also the shop told me i had to grind/shave down my subframe so they can access the lca to adjust them. Anyone had any experience with this??

If i wanted to lower my car another half inch or so would these work? I have Swift springs with Bilstein B6 shocks and SPC LCA's right now. It just has a little rake right now and the rear could go down another 10mm or so if possible.

Yup, I have FA 500's. At the lowest setting in the rear I had around 1.25 to 1.5 inches of gap between fender and tire. After installing these LCAs in the lowest mounting point, I was tucking rim. Definitely seemed like it lowered it by more than 40mm. The good thing is that they have 2 holes to attach your coils to, one is -40 and the other is -15 or -25, can't remember which off the top of my head.

Not sure if you guys ran into this or if its just common but the winter roads beat up the front side of the LCA's, pretty much chipped the paint off now they don't look so good from the front :/ function wise they are good but cosmetically they aren't the prettiest on one side

Happened to my Megan's, assuming the same will happen with the PBMs as well. I'm not worried. Not like you can see it anyways.

We see this with almost all the "fancy" rear LCAs in terms of the adjustments. IIRC my techs told me they welded up a tool to reach the adjusters on the cusco/fancy style arms.

:(

-mike

hey guys, do any of you guys get any noise from these lca? mine is clunking pretty bad in the rear and im pretty sure its the lca, perhaps bolts not tighten properly or stuff. just wondering what exactly should i do to recheck all nut and bolt. im on airlift suspension. thanks