FR-S/BRZ vs Toyota FT1
 

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO0T-eb1jrI"]Toyota FT-1 Concept! The Next Supra? - The Downshift Ep. 73 - YouTube[/ame]

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FT1 is better because we can fist the ass all day.

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Need any special lubrication ?

The FT-1 is a lot better b/c it doesn't contain any parts from Subaru! ;) :lol:

My honest opinion...86 is better.

BECAUSE

You can drive it now!

FT-1 doesn't have a conventional manual transmission.

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40 weight sounds nice.

It looks gorgeous but how many iterations will it be until we see it become a reality?

Also, will be the bastard child in some ways the Twins were? Or is it going to be a full on Toyota in-house project like the LFA?

Time will tell. I wasn't even of legal driving age when the golden age for Toyota hit and by the time the last sports car rolled out of their dealerships, I just started paying off student loans in my first job.

I'd love to see this in the 50-60k range, but my suspicion is that by the time something like it is released, it will be watered down and 100k.

HAHAHAHA! Love you, dude!! It's funny because it's true :party0030::party0030::party0030:

lol im betting it'll be too heavy and big/bulky for my Personal taste, but im sure I'll love the car for its power n rwd
and im not expecting anything like its prototype

Two questions! How much? When can I purchase one? One thing is for certain, if Toyota builds it then prices it like the LFA, then again the masses will ask "who the hell did they build it for?" If Toyota has the foresight to price this within "mortal range" and it performs!! Then they will not be able to keep them in stock. I can't wait!!!!

I would rather they just make a modified 2-seat version of the FR-S, with wishbone front suspension and the engine/trans moved way aft to allow a much lower hoodline/fenderline and give 50/50 or more rearward weight distribution => modern 2000GT! With 300+hp turbo option ;)

If they're bringing back the Supra, you can bet it's going to be spec'd/priced to compete with the GTR (and presumably NSX). To price it lower would make it a 370z competitor and that just doesn't seem to be what they're going for with that design.

It's a good looking concept, the front is a little odd but I like a lot of the lines they've created. The video is weird, I know it's US based, but the FR-S is clearly a Toyota to most of the world so to say Toyota doesn't have a sports car is just strange.

Edit: as far as it VS the Twins; it's obviously going to a much faster/higher end car so comparing them isn't really fair.

:lol::lol::lol: I'm sure I pissed off the Subie fanboi's!


On a side note, a lot of people are expecting 100K for this car. It was mentioned that 3 tiers were going to be made, Lexus-LF-LC, Toyota FT-1 and Toyota GT86. THis has to be the middle one.





Calty's starting point was to design a sports car with a theoretical $50,000-$60,000 price tag, Hunter said. That meant designing something wild, but not so exotic that it pushed the car into the territory that would make it a Lexus.

"We didn't want [Toyota Motor top management] to see this and think it was a $150,000 car," Hunter said. "We also did the Lexus LF-LC [concept coupe] at Calty, so we wanted a different form vocabulary for this car. Anything that looked like the LF-LC was rejected. That car was more touring oriented, while this is a pure sports car."


http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...#axzz2qQ8ezH23

I'm certainly hoping. If it were released and I can get one of these in the 50-60k range...the FR-S is moving into the driveway.

So this is going to be either really affordable (relatively) in the 40-50k range...or most likely GTR money. Would they price it in the same range as the RC-F?

I'm personally expecting it to be at 38-45k lol
too much intrusion into lexus' side otherwise .. I think :x

I can't imagine it would resemble the concept too much at that price. Then again, the FR-S is a large-ish departure from the earlier concepts.

Come on guys. This is going to be a Supra. More like a M3/GTR/C7 fighter.

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lol im expecting the production to look 25% of the concept :iono::lol:

How long before someone makes this like they did with the LFA kits? Minus the headlights of course.

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Yeah and even Kevin Hunter mentioned a 50-60K range. This would put it just below the RC-F which makes sense.

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say 60K starting plus a 15K dealer markup because salesman are greedy bastards. :bellyroll:

Hopefully NEVER! :D

^^^ Not sure about the 15k DAP! I'm a salesman and I have too be greedy to put food on the table but people aren't stupid.

If it has twice the power as the FR-S and 1/2 of the chassis and design of the LFA under (minus the carbon fiber show) there they will have a legit competitor to the Corvette.

Would think they wouldn't be able to charge as much as the Corvette though. Even with similar power numbers.

To me this car looks exactly at the same stage as the "FT-86" was at its unveiling at the New York auto show. It came out less than a year after that. I expect that with the "FT-1" to the Supra transition to happen very similarly.

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Think more Corvette! That's how I have always seen the Supra. They modeled the FR-S after the Porsche Cayman. Now the Supra can be a direct competitor to the Cayman as well. No way this car is going for 100k.


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That's all I'm hoping for. There's just nothing appealing to me in the 50-60k segment for some reason. Porsches are just so vanilla and corvettes are too midlife crisis for me. (I know, blasphemy on both fronts)

Eventhough the vette is too midlife crisis....it performances are indeniably good. Toyota can not be that expensive, can they ? Lets take c7 price and cut down 7-10k.

We are looking at 45k +

Oh no doubt it has performance...especially with the C7. They've just never done it for me.

Actually bro, I think it'll be the top tier based on what Toyota has said (http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/9029...all-sports-car). LF-LC seems to be a pie-in-the-sky alternative energy concept that started back in the days of the FT-HS. And just like how the 86 manifested cues from the FT-HS, cues from the LF-LC are being manifested through the RC-F.
My gut sense says this car will be priced between the Corvette and GT-R. Hopefully closer to Vette or even below. But in past interviews Tada-san did brag about it having a technology feature to "wow" the world. Might be more liberal on the tech with not as much cost cutting as the twins. Though leveraging from the BMW/Toyota development collab could save on cost.

Part of me hopes they don't release the FT-1 with a manual transmission option so I can stay content with my BRZ and stick with my original plan to get a used FR-S track toy on the side. But the other part of me hopes it will have a manual transmission. In which case I'll have to plan for this car and still enjoy my BRZ as a daily.

I haven't even read this thread but are you guys seriously comparing a car that actually exists and a car that doesn't? Welp first off, the FRS is faster than the FT-1 (it has no engine). FRS wins! Woo! haha

It's just for shits and giggles man. FIGHT ON!

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FR-S/BRZ vs Toyota FT1
 

I know. I just felt like being a sarcastic asshole. :) but sometimes you can't be too sure on these forums if serious...or trolling.

Fight On brother!


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They seem to have stanced this car with some stretch and poke like the FR-S Concept.

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Not even an updated FR-Supra? ;)

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If it's 40k or less. I'm f*cking buying it, and I'll see some of you on the FT1 forums!

I wonder if this will be the car that's being co-developed with BMW? It may have all Toyota materials and interior but something tells me they'll keep to the tradition of an inline-6 turbo and rip the new m3/m4 engine that has one producing 425+hp...

Definitely won't be 40k or less. Christ, the last Supra was barely below $50k. Oh and inflation, don't forget that tidbit.

I don't think it's going to be anywhere near 50K. It'll probably end up in the $60-$70K price range. One thing for sure, it won't look anything like that concept lol

Nick C.

I agree with you, I don't think it'll be that price either. But if it is, GOOD BYE 86.