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Ryephile 04-30-2012 03:54 PM

Great review; he was descriptive and informative. It's always a pleasure to listen to feedback from Randy Pobst.

S2kphile 04-30-2012 04:16 PM

BALANCE That is the word I want to hear. No need for more power or sticker tires. It'll probably lose the essence of what the engineers designed this car to do and feel. I approve :thumbsup:

Mari0 04-30-2012 07:08 PM

"Drifting it on the handling balance not on the POWER drift people"

Turbowned 04-30-2012 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryephile (Post 195961)
Great review; he was descriptive and informative. It's always a pleasure to listen to feedback from Randy Pobst.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Great review!

Steve 04-30-2012 07:50 PM

I wonder if this video especially, and the many other amazing reviews of the car is stock form will show people,

lowering the car too much AND
getting absurdly big and wide rims and tires with more grip
(basically the Scion 5-axis combo)

is only going to hinder the full capabilities the car possesses in stock form (or close to).

I can only imagine the day and night between driving the stock car and one with all that 5-axis kit stuff.

In my opinion heavy modifications should be left for cars that require them. Sure adding more power sounds great in theory but remember that the car will lose... its balance. DUN DUN DUN

RRnold 04-30-2012 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE (Post 195943)
i was just stating that it was streets of willow so anyone else reading wouldnt research the wrong track, willow springs has 7-8 different track layouts...

also all the cars set lap times in dry conditions....

The main configs used for cars track days and testing are Big Willow, Streets of Willow and Horse Thief Mile. This particular test was done on Streets.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_q5H5Q_AThZ...lowStreets.gif


Nice review and I can't wait to take mine to Willow Springs. :thumbup:

Bristecom 04-30-2012 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve (Post 196253)
I wonder if this video especially, and the many other amazing reviews of the car is stock form will show people,

lowering the car too much AND
getting absurdly big and wide rims and tires with more grip
(basically the Scion 5-axis combo)

is only going to hinder the full capabilities the car possesses in stock form (or close to).

I can only imagine the day and night between driving the stock car and one with all that 5-axis kit stuff.

In my opinion heavy modifications should be left for cars that require them. Sure adding more power sounds great in theory but remember that the car will lose... its balance. DUN DUN DUN

I know so many people who modify thier cars and end up ruining them to the point where they just try to sell them. LOL When I do a mod, I make sure it's in every way better by considering all the effects it will have and by hearing feedback of others who have used them. And I only buy top quality race-proven parts.

titusdrake 04-30-2012 09:25 PM

"for years we've been begging for a coupe thats fun to drive, sporty, and inexpensive, after all these years of hoping and pleading we get the fr-s, it could very well be, the coupe we've been dreaming of"

ugh, this guy makes it sound like there are no other fun sports cars out there...

carbonBLUE 04-30-2012 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by titusdrake (Post 196335)
"for years we've been begging for a coupe thats fun to drive, sporty, and inexpensive, after all these years of hoping and pleading we get the fr-s, it could very well be, the coupe we've been dreaming of"

ugh, this guy makes it sound like there are no other fun sports cars out there...


i think hes trying to say its the first car in a while that feels like a car was meant to be driven on the street just as much as it was meant to drive on the track...

RRnold 04-30-2012 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by titusdrake (Post 196335)
"for years we've been begging for a coupe thats fun to drive, sporty, and inexpensive, after all these years of hoping and pleading we get the fr-s, it could very well be, the coupe we've been dreaming of"

ugh, this guy makes it sound like there are no other fun sports cars out there...

Care to name some? Most if not all of the fun Japanese cars were killed off in the late 90's, early 2000's.

Mango22 04-30-2012 09:57 PM

That lava color is sexy! This is the first time I've seen the FR-S and liked the front end. Very exciting and just a great all around drivers car! great review!

vijaykdotcom 04-30-2012 10:13 PM

"No sunroof...who give a SHI<Beep>T "

LOL

DarkSunrise 04-30-2012 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE (Post 195823)
91.15 lap time 1:31.15

and he was f-cking around... faster than an evo x pretty good....

BMW M5 1:30.40
Porsche 911 Turbo 1:30.69
Ford Mustang V6 1:30.90
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X SE 1:31.40
Ford GT 1:31.57


http://www.fastestlaps.com/laptimes/4d90aa2aa585d.html

Those times (minus the Mustang V6) seem a second or two slow to be honest. Given how good of a driver Randy is, probably need to compare the other cars with Randy at the helm. For example, here are Randy's actual times with some other cars at Streets:

2011 BMW M3 1:27.67
2011 Mustang GT 1:27.76

To show how much of a difference the driver makes, here are the times with a journalist driving:

2011 BMW M3 1:32.07
2011 Mustang GT 1:31.52

On the plus side, this shows that Randy behind the wheel of an FR-S (1:31.15) is quicker than a decent driver in an M3 or Mustang GT. The best mod is the driver mod :)

315FR-S 04-30-2012 11:59 PM

the potential this car has blows my mind


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