Know your roots: AE86!
 

For all the newcomers out there, surely you've read that the Toyota 86/Scion FR-S is the spiritual successor to the AE86 Toyota from the 1980's, also known as Sprinter Trueno, Levin, Corolla GT-S, or by it's nickname "hachi-roku" (meaning "eight-six" in Japanese). Here's a little video that I think best demonstrates the potential of that little car, why we as enthusiasts love it so much, and why we have so greatly anticipated it's modern return! After seeing this, you should hopefully understand, too.

I'm certain you'd have to be living under a rock to not know something about this cult classic, but I think we should have a place to show off just how great this little car was and still is today. Feel free to post pics and videos of the best AE86's out there so the newcomers can know where we're coming from, and why we're so passionate about the AE86's reincarnation!

This video is of Keiichi Tsuchiya, the famed "Drift King" who could also be regarded as the grandfather of drifting and the AE86. This is his personal hachi-roku, gifted to him by Toyota/TRD and modified for excellent performance:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iDk3TEPgCA"]KT AE86 drift show - YouTube[/ame]

http://webspace.webring.com/people/n.../driftking.jpg

And here is a picture of an AE86 N2 racecar, a popular race series in the 1980's:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4037/...d292c0c025.jpg

And of course the famed Fujiwara Tofu Shop delivery car, driven by Takumi Fujiwara in the popular "Initial D" manga and anime, written by Shuichi Shigeno:

http://id.initial.d.tripod.com/AE86_1.jpg

good stuff. any chance of making an 86 sound like that ae86?

Cant forget UEO!
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQq4lWalY1Q"]Katsuhiro Ueo - YouTube[/ame]

For those new the AE86, it should be said that in stock form it was NOT an easy car to drift. It didn't slide around the corner on the way off the lot or make every driver into a Drift King.

Instead, it was a light responsive platform that rewarded skill, and flipped the bird at idiots.

I dont know the specs on the first one posted, but it sounds like its got ITBs, which is where most of that glorious sound is coming from.

good watch with that UEO clip. lots of wipeouts. love how excited the commentating team gets and that they are always on loudspeaker

Where's Moto-san?!?!?!?! I'm pretty sure he can add about 10 pages to this thread. ;)

Ever asked yourself "Who does the American dub for those fantastic Best Motoring videos?"


Now you know. :bow:

Why dub?! Keep it original & just add subtitles! :bonk:

Wow, Keiichi Tsuchiya makes that small car look huge.

It is powered by a 4AGE 20v from an AE111 Toyota Levin. Factory specs are 5 valves per cylinder, 1.6L twin cam with variable valve timing and 11:1 compression ratio, and individual throttle bodies (ITB's), making 165ps and 121lb/ft. Tsuchiya-san's car has been tuned to around the 200ps mark with lots of TRD goodies. The specs are out there online but they're all in Japanese. I have this same engine swapped into my MR2, and it does sound amazing!

For any and all information you could ever want on the AE86 and all it's old-school Toyota cousins, head over to www.club4ag.com and get yourself registered! It's a great community and you can learn a lot!

"I drift not because its a quicker way around a corner, but the most exciting way."
-Tsuchiya Keiichi

He was also the character inspiration for 'Fujiwara Takumi' in the popular japanese mange and anime 'Initial D' - below is a most fitting clip from the anime, AE86 v Impreza (warning, strange Japanese culture and eurobeat musics ahead.)

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3fqEvxLerA"]Initial D: AE86 vs. Impreza - YouTube[/ame]

(bonus for all you subaru enthusiasts-- the GC8 model shown in the clip is representative of the ver5 STI coupe variant of the Subaru Impreza and boasts one of the longest full names of any Subaru model I know of: "Subaru Impreza WRX STI Coupe Type R Version V")

I've wasted so many hours watching that show. hahaha..

MY AE86: the FRS will never truly replace it

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b8...EIYGE2_047.jpg

how do you like the 20v mr2? ive been out of the sports car game for a while and i miss my corolla more than the the miata despite the miata being a much better car. i just dont want to pay that drift tax on those things nowadays. aw11s seem dope and the swap seems more straight forward

back on topic, i really dont see what the frs and corolla have in common

man i miss initial D. fun times watching that anime.

Man I miss the crap out of my old AE86. I keep toying with the idea of getting another, but they are a money pit at this point. Everyone wants 5k for an SR5.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...IMG_6828-1.jpg

RIP old friend:
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3.../Image1729.jpg

There were subtitles too. But it's nice to be able to watch the cars maneuver about without looking away to read the whole time.

Am I the only one who thought of this when reading the thread title?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w"]Women: Know Your Limits! Harry Enfield - BBC comedy - YouTube[/ame]

No, but that video was an absolute riot! I'm still laughing hahahahahahahaaa :laughabove: :lol::bellyroll::clap:

It's great! The MR2 is really anemic with the 112hp 4AGE engine. The 20v 4AGE is a great match at 165hp. Not quite a 10:1 power-to-weight ratio (AW11 MR2 weighs between 2350-2500lbs), but enough power to have fun with. MR2's can be had for cheap, and there are still some nice clean stock cars running around, unlike trying to find a decent Corolla for less than $5k. The swap is very straightforward. I paid someone to do the wiring and for a custom exhaust b-pipe, and I had to fab up coolant hoses and a couple of brackets for the coil and igniter, but everything else bolted up for the most part. It's a whole different animal now! Really fun.

And back on topic yes, I do see what they have in common: small, light, fun, rear-wheel-drive and affordable. Just like the original!

My old 1987 AE86 coupe with a Trueno Kouki bumper and Zenki lip.
Bought it for $4500, cleaned it up and sold it for $6500. Should
have kept it.
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1712263_n.jpg
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._2393378_n.jpg

I don't give a sh*t about drifting, for me this car means winning races and rallies. In here where i live, AE86 is very popular rally car. It has won basically everything. Sad part is that every AE86 is modified to rally, so you can't find good one anymore..

Oh to be in Finland, where they care about real racing, not drifting and NASCAR... Maybe someday. :)



Here's some cool rally AE86's for everyone to drool over:
http://file044.bebo.com/4/large/2008...611065013l.jpg
http://straightaftercrest.com/upload...olla%20002.JPG
http://85.234.145.37/Remote098763243...03DSCF1274.jpg

http://www.tuningfever.fr/pics-max-9...-rally-car.jpg
http://www.tuningfever.fr/pics-max-1...y-car-1986.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2531/4...0a82404e_z.jpg

Turbowned:

You should watch this video:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7999vgGfpOw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7999vgGfpOw[/ame]

There should be at least few AE86 and lot's of old starlets (wicked machines) and escorts. All of those are crazy, small displacement NA beasts :bow:

Holy crap, any of those people end up dying?

Nope, safety roll-gages (or something like that, i'm not sure what is right word in english) make these cars quite safe to crash. And most of the time they spin freely... BTW, last AE86 crash in the end of the video was quite hilarious :D

fun fact, the original corolla GTS was around 10,500-11k, about 23k in todays dollars

I bought my sr5 for 500 bucks though and yea the prices on these are retarded

http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/2989940722.html

His car has work done to it. 8k sounds a bit high for a stock motor. Had it been a bone stock car I'd flip out as well, but I understanding his pricing. The car is basically done unless you're going to swap it for a 20v motor. The paint job alone is 3k, the stock car is like 2k (the MOST I'd pay for an AE86 stock if it was pristine), and then all of the parts/work is like another 4-5k. Those coil overs alone are like 2-2.5k. Looks like it has Sprinter taillights, USDM rear bumper. There's a lot of work put into that car.

However check out this one from San Francisco. It's 6k:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/cto/2977681239.html

I've thought about saying forget the FRS and just buying that car.

Roll cage, sir. Thanks for posting that! I hate watching crashes though; all those poor cars! I watched Sebastian Loeb win his 70th race in Argentina last night (I'm a little late, I know). I think Mikko Hirvonen could have easily beaten Seb but I have a feeling Citroën told him to let his teammate win. :thumbdown:

Dayumm!! That's a nice AE86. I'd be more than tempted if the FR-S wasn't going to be a daily driver. Save yourself about $20k and go have fun!

That car will be a hassle in CA due to needing to get it smogged. CA has stupid rules about smogging cars. That car would fail hardcore. They also have SUPER strict motor swap rules. The motor has to come from a newer model car that's sold in CA, and include all factory smogging equipment. They impound 240's that are running anything other than KAs. I was gonna drop an SR or RB until I did some research on it. :(

To me, it's not worth the hassle since I don't have a house with a garage nor a trailer to cart the thing around. I'd rather just get the FRS and be able to drive it wherever, and whenever I want. Otherwise I'd be all over that car. I miss my AE86. Right before I moved to CA I had picked up this: http://www.silkroad-usa.com/pages/ae86parts/header.htm

I was gonna couple that with a DD exhaust. I wish I could have finished that car. :(

Oh right, I forgot you're in the People's Republic of California. Even the People's Republic of Massachusetts excuses any cars older than 1996 from getting smogged; that's just rough, man.