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StormTrooper 12-23-2013 06:48 AM

stg1 custom tune add intake retune =???
 
I've yet to find a reliable third party dyno of a tuned car then adding and intake and retuning....


This is the only way to know if the car will make more power on top of say a tune or full exhaust and a tune.


So far i've found air raid is a joke. Injen isnt much better and all the rest "make power" untuned by changing the afr.


I would love to be proven wrong.

Thanks,
Matt

Kodename47 12-23-2013 07:42 AM

To "re-tune" for an intake, all you actually need to do is rescale the MAF correctly. There is nothing more to it than that. Whether that would then gain you anything over the OEM airbox, I doubt it would be much.

FR-S Matt 12-23-2013 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by StormTrooper (Post 1407195)
I've yet to find a reliable third party dyno of a tuned car then adding and intake and retuning....


This is the only way to know if the car will make more power on top of say a tune or full exhaust and a tune.


So far i've found air raid is a joke. Injen isnt much better and all the rest "make power" untuned by changing the afr.


I would love to be proven wrong.

Thanks,
Matt

That's because the threads turn into a big argument over panel filters and CAI's. I would say its very difficult to find the perfect intake since so many cars vary and intakes add so little HP. I say pick one that has a high flow filter like the TRD one, and call it a day and tune it.

I think the only intake worth noting currently is the Perrin 3" intake which I'm not sure makes more power or not. Never seen any dynos of it outside of Perrin's personal testing. We do have relatively large throttle bodies so it might be worth it once tuned.

350matt 12-23-2013 07:56 AM

agreed

the stock intake I'd say is very good - benefits from a filter that isn't a 50K miles device but I don't think any of the after market items are needed unless you're up into the 300 + Bhp region

Not keen on the hose between airbox and throttle though - replacing that with smoothbore hose with no noise generator takeoff must be worth something surely......

frslee 12-23-2013 09:10 AM

If you want sound, do it. If not, save that money for headers.

Boofneenee 12-23-2013 10:44 AM

Agreed. And for heavens sake do not get the Injen CAI. Ruins your car. Makes it choke out to stall and bog at low rpms. Injen was nice enough to refund me the money 3 mos later

Visconti 12-23-2013 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kodename47 (Post 1407209)
To "re-tune" for an intake, all you actually need to do is rescale the MAF correctly. There is nothing more to it than that. Whether that would then gain you anything over the OEM airbox, I doubt it would be much.

+1

StormTrooper 12-23-2013 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodename47 (Post 1407209)
To "re-tune" for an intake, all you actually need to do is rescale the MAF correctly. There is nothing more to it than that. Whether that would then gain you anything over the OEM airbox, I doubt it would be much.

That is exactly what I was getting at.

Would a tuner be able to get more out of a car after adding an intake?

Visconti 12-23-2013 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by StormTrooper (Post 1408090)
That is exactly what I was getting at.



Would a tuner be able to get more out of a car after adding an intake?


Other than looks and the noise they make I haven't seen a intake that wows me to the point where I need to spend the money.

Money would be better spent on other things


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350matt 12-23-2013 06:27 PM

what about the AEM or Perrin devices? these seem to have some merit?

StormTrooper 12-23-2013 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Visconti (Post 1408095)
Other than looks and the noise they make I haven't seen a intake that wows me to the point where I need to spend the money.

Money would be better spent on other things


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That's what I've read so far....headers seem to be a different story depending on which one you get

Visconti 12-23-2013 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by StormTrooper (Post 1408270)
That's what I've read so far....headers seem to be a different story depending on which one you get


Yup!


Quote:

Originally Posted by 350matt (Post 1408230)
what about the AEM or Perrin devices? these seem to have some merit?


Intakes are nice but aren't proven to make power like other boltons


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