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MrMarinakos 12-22-2013 11:28 PM

Coilovers vs Air bags?
 
I'm sure there are arguements about this already with posts from before. I'm new to most car stuff and i want to hear everyones opinion on it. What do you guys think i should get out of preference?
My car is DD but i'm definitely going to track it. The suggestion for airbags is because the road around VA arent the best but mainly i just want to be able to go over speedbumps and other stuff like that.
Coilovers are also cheaper, last longer, and have been suggested for the best performance in racing/track and etc.

What should i go for?

mav1178 12-22-2013 11:53 PM

Tracking it? Coilovers.

End thread please.

-alex

utekineir 12-23-2013 01:00 AM

do you like to take pictures of your car or have other people take pictures of your car or get your **** sucked on stance forums/instagram

if so then bags.

fatoni 12-23-2013 01:18 AM

well from what you say, coilovers simply because you wont want the car slammed on the track or street. the only reason to go for bags would be to slam the car maybe. outside of that you arent going to beat a coilover dollar for dollar.

car_roll 12-23-2013 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMarinakos (Post 1406825)
I'm sure there are arguements about this already with posts from before. I'm new to most car stuff and i want to hear everyones opinion on it. What do you guys think i should get out of preference?
My car is DD but i'm definitely going to track it. The suggestion for airbags is because the road around VA arent the best but mainly i just want to be able to go over speedbumps and other stuff like that.
Coilovers are also cheaper, last longer, and have been suggested for the best performance in racing/track and etc.

What should i go for?

Why is this even a question?

coils, and not the crappy taiwanese ones.

/thread

B L U E S L A T E 12-23-2013 01:41 AM

High end coilovers are NOT cheaper than air suspension setup.

Enraged21 12-23-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B L U E S L A T E (Post 1407042)
High end coilovers are NOT cheaper than air suspension setup.

So in that case would air bags be better bang for buck than higher end coilovers?

utekineir 12-23-2013 10:27 AM

the only direct comparison thats been done was the shitty video from airlift where they used unnamed coils, on unknown settings with unknown alignments and claimed their product was better

had they felt their product was better they would have given some sort of metric for comparison rather than trying to bullshit everyone in a comparison with taiwanese turd sticks

PradiG 12-23-2013 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by utekineir (Post 1407323)
the only direct comparison thats been done was the shitty video from airlift where they used unnamed coils, on unknown settings with unknown alignments and claimed their product was better

had they felt their product was better they would have given some sort of metric for comparison rather than trying to bullshit everyone in a comparison with taiwanese turd sticks

Airlift did that video and they used KW's (as many have confirmed). I feel like they were completely biased towards their product though....(which a company should be) but it was on a level where a lot of people were like "really airlift?.....REALLY?"

I do think coils are a better option for the op though.

CSG David 12-23-2013 02:41 PM

Airbags are good for the street as most people don't care about what the suspension kit actually does. It allows you to run stupid low and raise the car at will. From a public street standpoint running at low stop and go speeds, this is ideal to that market of enthusiasts. For people looking for absolute performance with that same ride adjustment, look into cups. That goes on top of your high end coilover so you can raise the car as needed over retarded speed bumps.

With that said, high end cups and coilovers are valued extremely high and the reason being the amount of R&D and resources spent to produce such product to that market is very high with absolute quality in mind.

For some sort of comparison, I drive on 16k springs all around on my track/daily S2000 CR with custom valved TEIN SRCs and 255 RS3s on 17x10 CE28N. Most cars feel sloppier and harsher than that setup. Current ride height is slightly close to the max height that TEIN SRC will allow on the threaded body and I clear most ramps and bumps with minimal ricer angle over them. If I could add some high quality cups to the car, man...I would slam that beast when it's parked and raise it 4x4 height to run over beast speed bumps all day long! :)

frslee 12-23-2013 04:43 PM

I had to put this out here.
Put this where your strut location is.

http://munchymart.com/images/LaysClassic.gif


For my answer, I'd put coilover if you ever take it to track.

MrMarinakos 12-23-2013 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B L U E S L A T E (Post 1407042)
High end coilovers are NOT cheaper than air suspension setup.

From what i've researched one of the best coilovers are KWV3 and they are actually cheaper then or equal too most airbags

wparsons 12-24-2013 12:07 AM

KW V3's aren't really high end coilovers in the big picture. They're a great setup for a street car, but a really high set of coilovers will cost you easily double what V3's are worth.

B L U E S L A T E 12-24-2013 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMarinakos (Post 1408654)
From what i've researched one of the best coilovers are KWV3 and they are actually cheaper then or equal too most airbags

Maybe spend a little more time on your research? You haven't even reached Club Sport yet. And what about JRZs? I think lowest grade JRZ are even pricier than bag setup. There are A LOT more legit coilover setups than V3s (not knocking on V3s as they're probably one of the better street setups).

But again, IMO, bags are for groceries and not for tracks.


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