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bfrank1972 12-13-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by s2d4 (Post 1386111)
Yeah, he was the first to run in the tens consistently with the supra. That is where it came from. Obviously a really long time ago...

Wait, maybe I need to watch that video again, I thought it said that Ten is his real name?

s2d4 12-13-2013 11:02 PM

Fair enough, I didn't know him until he was running 10s.
Fact of the matter is, he is awesome, I wish everybody watches his video before modding.

Sellout 12-14-2013 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by s2d4 (Post 1389109)
Fair enough, I didn't know him until he was running 10s.
Fact of the matter is, he is awesome, I wish everybody watches his video before modding.

Definitely.

Gen 12-14-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by s2d4 (Post 1389109)
Fair enough, I didn't know him until he was running 10s.
Fact of the matter is, he is awesome, I wish everybody watches his video before modding.

I just watched it, and I got about half way through. It's interesting, but I can't say I really agree. What he said is probably true 20 years ago about how people choose shops, but the consumer has a different information source these days. If only it were as easy as paying more, but unfortunately, quality doesn't necessarily equate to price.

I think the major problem, particularly with this car and this forum, is the individual's aversion to publicly mentioning they have been wronged. Look at the guy with the FA20club build that has been going on for months-- I do not think I've seen him really say anything at all against FA20club. (I have no personal dealings with FA20club, and I am not faulting this one guy in particular, it's just an example)

Consider Visconti. For the better part of half a year no one publicly said anything against the quality of his work. He was the "go to" tuner until he burned someone's car to the ground. There's a massive amount of bullshit thrown around this forum, and it's really disappointing to see.

We owe it to each other to give honest opinions about the quality of products, otherwise, people that lack experience and are trying to get into this end up screwed. It's a 'buyer beware' situation where it is almost impossible for the consumer to obtain relevant information.

s2d4 12-14-2013 01:42 PM

Watch it until the end.
Also, the fa20 club guy would have probably cut his losses and gone somewhere else if he could afford it. I know I would have after 3 months.
Visconti is the perfect example of people bsing and mates saying he is the go to guy.


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