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digital_assassin 12-08-2013 12:35 PM

Ethanol Free Gas
 
I went to a gas station in Lake Oswego that sells 100% Ethanol Free 92 Octane Fuel. I suggest anyone that is close to support this business. The guys love to talk about cars and it's only about .50 cents more per gallon to get rid of the ethanol in our engine.

Dave's Pallisades Service Station
http://www.davespalisadesautocare.com

m.box.design 12-08-2013 01:59 PM

space age at the burnside/powell interchange on the east side has ethanol free gas as well. (clean unleaded on the sign)

Thatruth2001 12-08-2013 04:30 PM

Pure gas locations in OR and WA

http://pure-gas.org

digital_assassin 12-08-2013 04:47 PM

It's a shame they are so few and far between. Most are at cardlocks. I posted about this one because of the people working there.

NickFRS 12-08-2013 05:28 PM

It's hard to find a good gas station these days. Had some punk slam everything on Bries WRX last week at the 212 to 205 chevron... Had to get out and set him straight on how to respect a car.

tech4pdx 12-08-2013 05:49 PM

I must be the only person who doesn't care about crickets. I pretty much pump anywhere except Arco and Space Age. :)

Pete156 12-08-2013 10:27 PM

ABSOFRIGINLUTELY!!!!

I have been putting ethanol free gas (I call it absolute gasoline) in my BRZ for a year. It has NO chirps from the HPFP, runs consistently with gobs of power (the car is FI), has no corn in the tank which turns to water when it sits, and is available locally. I thought, I would be an idiot not to use it (I thought). I was right!
I'll never go back!
Pete

stockysnail 12-09-2013 01:12 AM

Costco is so cheap and less than one block away so I go there. I like crickets now as it reminds me of camping.

Decay107 12-09-2013 01:13 PM

Hmm, not too far out of my way, I'll definitely check it out.

Dadhawk 12-09-2013 04:22 PM

Not available yet, and you may have to go to an airport to get it once it is, but I want some of this (posted it in Random Thoughts a few days ago)

Shell announced that it has developed a 100 Octane gasoline for "piston engines". Admittedly it's been developed for aviation (most small certified aircraft use 100LL fuel now, and the LL (low lead) needs to go away).

Still, its pure gasoline with no ethanol in it. And many of the same engines above are certified to run off premium "car gas". Makes you wonder....

http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/A...-unleaded.aspx

DoomsdayJesus 12-09-2013 07:17 PM

Around the Olympia area there are a number of stations with ethanol-free gas like Acme Fuel and a couple other commercial downs. Pure-gas.com has a mobile app, too, which is pretty handy. I decided to switch to ethanol free for the winter only because it's about 33-43 cents more, but it's nice avoiding those god-awful winter blends.

DoomsdayJesus 12-09-2013 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk (Post 1378850)
Not available yet, and you may have to go to an airport to get it once it is, but I want some of this (posted it in Random Thoughts a few days ago)

Shell announced that it has developed a 100 Octane gasoline for "piston engines". Admittedly it's been developed for aviation (most small certified aircraft use 100LL fuel now, and the LL (low lead) needs to go away).

Still, its pure gasoline with no ethanol in it. And many of the same engines above are certified to run off premium "car gas". Makes you wonder....

http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/A...-unleaded.aspx

That's still going to have a ton of additives that may not be the best for cars. Although our high compression engines may actually be an exception (since most aircraft engines are as well), I'd like to hear what Shell says before putting that in my tank. My dad's got an old Lycoming IO-540 in his Lancair he built that runs 100LL. He's been following the development of lead replacements, and most pilots have been extremely skeptical. You're looking at a situation in which many of them will simply opt for a fuel additive.

Tromatic 12-09-2013 09:02 PM

Booze-free gas in my car kills the crickets. I still think it's water content and cavitation.

Dadhawk 12-09-2013 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DoomsdayJesus (Post 1379383)
That's still going to have a ton of additives that may not be the best for cars. Although our high compression engines may actually be an exception (since most aircraft engines are as well), I'd like to hear what Shell says before putting that in my tank. My dad's got an old Lycoming IO-540 in his Lancair he built that runs 100LL. He's been following the development of lead replacements, and most pilots have been extremely skeptical. You're looking at a situation in which many of them will simply opt for a fuel additive.

Definitely agree on the additives, not to mention it will probably be something ridiculous like $10 per gallon.

PoWn3d_0704 12-09-2013 10:09 PM

Cardlock in Junction City is where I go. 91 non-E. The new Chevron on Irving road has 92 pure as well. That is where my friend goes, since he isn't a cardlock member.

m.box.design 12-10-2013 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marchy (Post 1381120)
i've noticed the crickets have gone away in the cold weather. Not sure what it means, just an observation.

crickets may also result from certain temperature/pressure parameters?

DoomsdayJesus 12-10-2013 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marchy (Post 1381120)
i've noticed the crickets have gone away in the cold weather. Not sure what it means, just an observation.

It was the same for me, makes sense considering they only popped up in warm weather when the engine was hot.

Decay107 12-28-2013 05:52 PM

I've had crickets pretty much all winter (once the engine is warmed up). I filled up at Dave's Pallisades today and they disappeared after about 3 miles. :w00t:

OurFirst86 12-29-2013 02:00 PM

What the point of me running free ethanol gas when I live in salem.... only good gas that I ever put in my car is premium at cheveron.... is that gas bad??? If it is than all my cars is screw lol....

Pete156 12-29-2013 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OurFirst86 (Post 1417729)
What the point of me running free ethanol gas when I live in salem.... only good gas that I ever put in my car is premium at cheveron.... is that gas bad??? If it is than all my cars is screw lol....

Your car calls for "good" gas. Ideally 93 octane.
Chevron isn't bad but has 10% ethanol, which has a tendency to attract water/ turn to water if it sits in your tank. Pure Gasoline won't do that. You can find it in at least 5 places in Salem. Look on the Puregas website. Your car will run better and your fuel pump won't have crickets also. Added bonuses.

DoomsdayJesus 12-30-2013 12:51 PM

Hate to burst bubbles but after 3 tanks of 100% gas I was still getting crickets.

m.box.design 12-30-2013 12:58 PM

although ethanol content may have a factor in this, i think heat probably has a lot to do with the crickets. i only get mine when the car has been ran hot, especially in the summer. haven't heard my crickets (little to none) at all for the winter thus far.

PoWn3d_0704 01-02-2014 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoomsdayJesus (Post 1419383)
Hate to burst bubbles but after 3 tanks of 100% gas I was still getting crickets.

Can't put ethanol in ever. I have only ever put in two tanks of E10 fuel and that was on a road trip through California. Soon as I go home I topped off with the usual E0. My car has never once made a cricket noise.

My buddy's BRZ (who I live with) used to run E10 before I set him straight. He had crickets at the tail end of summer. Hopefully when the heat comes back the crickets wont, but I think the damage may have been done.

DoomsdayJesus 01-03-2014 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoWn3d_0704 (Post 1425928)
Can't put ethanol in ever. I have only ever put in two tanks of E10 fuel and that was on a road trip through California. Soon as I go home I topped off with the usual E0. My car has never once made a cricket noise.

My buddy's BRZ (who I live with) used to run E10 before I set him straight. He had crickets at the tail end of summer. Hopefully when the heat comes back the crickets wont, but I think the damage may have been done.

It's really unlikely that it's damage; mine came back during pretty cold weather after a long day of driving. Usually I don't even get crickets during cold weather.

PoWn3d_0704 01-03-2014 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoomsdayJesus (Post 1428185)
It's really unlikely that it's damage; mine came back during pretty cold weather after a long day of driving. Usually I don't even get crickets during cold weather.

Damage, but not in the way of like actual damage. More like... can't be reversed.

ClifraJones 02-23-2014 01:05 PM

E0 is nearly impossible to find in the Atlanta area and where I have found it, it is 91 octane. Has anyone used any of the additives that claim to mitigate the affects of ethanol?


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