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jack43 12-07-2013 02:37 PM

BRZ with Vortech on E85 - 382whp
 
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I'm just about ready to call it finished.. (how many times have you heard that before?) so here's the build thread.

engine:
Vortech supercharger, 2.87" pulley (13psi), 3 bar MAP sensor
FA20club Flex Fuel kit, patch harness, ethanol gauge hidden in center console
Ecutek Racerom tune by Toni at FA20club
FIC 540cc injectors
DW65 265LPH fuel pump
Koyorad radiator, Perrin silicone hoses
Perrin engine mounts
Perrin crank pulley
Mishimoto oil cooler
Cusco catch can (vertical type), custom hoses
Shorai li-fe battery LFX36L3-BS12, Ptuning billet tray

exhaust:
Motiv 2.5" overpipe, catless frontpipe
Magnaflow midpipe, catback

drivetrain:
ACT Perf street clutch, high pressure plate, Prolite Xact 10lb flywheel
Perrin transmission support
Perrin r shifter bushing
Driveshaft Shop carbon driveshaft
Whiteline subframe bushings
Whiteline positive shift bushing
Whiteline r diff bushings
Kartboy short shifter, MTEC springs, Raceseng Slammer knob
Driveshaft Shop axles

suspension, etc:
front 25.7" to fender arch, 2.5deg negative camber, 0 toe
rear 25.9" to fender arch, 2deg negative camber, 1/16" toe in
RCE Tarmac 0 coilovers, 350/350
Subaru 'Group N' top mounts
Subaru conical washers
Whiteline front control arm inner bushings
SPC '2nd gen' rear control arms, toe kit
TIC alloy steering rack bushing

brakes:
AP Racing Sprint front BBK
Carbotech 1521 pads F
Stoptech pads R
SS lines
Perrin master cylinder brace
Motul fluid

wheels:
WedsSport TC105N 18" gunmetal 8.5 +43, 9.5 +35
Hankook Ventus RS3 235-40, 255-35
custom Kask2_6.0 hub rings/caps
ARP extended studs
Muteki steel open ended lugnuts
actual weights: 16.8lb F/18.2lb R, complete with tire 42.1lb F/43.7lb R (171.6lb/set)

exterior:
JDM under panels
custom diffuser by Evan at SPS
knockoff STI lip
TRD trunk stabilizer
28% tint
JDM clear side markers
Perrin shorty antenna
trunk swap (wing delete)
side vent swap (FR-S style)
rear badges delete, '86' piston badge
Lamin-x tint on reverse light

I am loving the car:thumb up: more to come..

Lonewolf 12-07-2013 03:09 PM

A car with some balls and no stupid stickers, ricer wings, or crazy colors...I love it! :thumbup:

SkAsphalt 12-07-2013 03:46 PM

God damn. Amazing numbers.

Pete156 12-07-2013 03:52 PM

Very nice build. (You're not done yet)

merlin2111 12-07-2013 04:41 PM

Are those the best numbers on a sc?

trustyler 12-07-2013 04:41 PM

Nice! you did this without lowering the compression?

jack43 12-07-2013 04:51 PM

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I was just trolling.
This is my car:

Turbowned 12-07-2013 06:10 PM

Looks tough and has numbers to back it up! I think it needs some sort of spoiler, not necessarily OEM but something...

jack43 12-08-2013 10:21 AM

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Our local cart track.
Very short and tight, but gets the job done. A fun evening with other AZ 86 drivers.

jamesm 12-08-2013 07:55 PM

the torque peak is at redline lol. that must feel insane.

FA20Club.com 12-08-2013 08:41 PM

Not bad for having the stock header on the car.

6-Shift 12-08-2013 11:06 PM

Wow that gas pedal must be addictive :thumbsup:

nelsmar 12-08-2013 11:40 PM

Congrats on stealing my vortech dyno throne!!! You should have had it in the first place! So glad you got all your issues resolved and finally got that bastard on the dyno! Even when it was running limp it was so hard to resist pushing the throttle in when I was out doing test in your cars.

jack43 12-08-2013 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nelsmar (Post 1377392)
Congrats on stealing my vortech dyno throne!!! You should have had it in the first place! So glad you got all your issues resolved and finally got that bastard on the dyno! Even when it was running limp it was so hard to resist pushing the throttle in when I was out doing test in your cars.

There's a record?! For our li'l 2 liter/4bangers that's like the tallest midget contest.
And then you've got the turbo midgets using a stepladder, while the SC shrimps are trying it with lifts in their shoes.

Seriously though. Seems easy enough (for someone else.. not me, I'm out) to go with headers + the oil-fed blower upgrade and then use a smaller pulley to slay them all with 16 or more psi.
Plenty of headroom still, and lord knows we've ironed out some of the bugs.

nelsmar 12-09-2013 12:03 AM

BTW what was your ethanol content when you ran this? ~E70-75? I am assuming since winter blend is in Phoenix atm. I have no idea about Tuscon.

jack43 12-09-2013 12:20 AM

77% according to the FF sensor

nelsmar 12-09-2013 12:31 AM

Damn I envy your fuel in tuscon. Better pump gas, better e85?!

jack43 12-09-2013 12:47 AM

Hey more about that:
E85 peeps passing though Tucson on our main interstate I-10 - I recommend the Chevron at Ajo and Campbell.

Downtown to middle of the Old Pueblo, try Cherry north of 22nd. It's an unmanned pump that takes cards. The one on Alvernon north of Speedway that you find in web searches: a bust. It's closed.

E side has one at Pantano I haven't been to yet. I guess that's for when you do Lemmon on a 1/4 tank and coast down.

The best station IMO is on Houghton way out east. The have 100 or 110 race gas too.

I know there are others NW and elsewhere. Prices are all too close to each other to say one is the lowest.

jack43 01-03-2014 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FA20Club.com (Post 1377115)
Not bad for having the stock header on the car.

The back story here is that I had a header but took it off. I couldn't handle the noise on long drives.

It was the JDL which I can't recommend enough.. super high quality.

I don't notice a difference in power with the stock header back on. Anyway I will be curious to see what are the gains for headers with superchargers.

jonbonazza 01-03-2014 12:30 AM

No header or front pipe and still making these numbers??? Dayum. I recommend at least getting a chatted header and chatted fp if sound is the issue. :)

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Bad Habits 01-03-2014 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jack43 (Post 1375197)
I was just trolling.
This is my car:

Can't be. That doesn't look like Charlotte at all. And it would be grape kool aid or newport 100's on the side.

Seriously, insane numbers. Silly question but do you think there is room for more out of it? Bigger injectors, play with the tune, exhaust options? Congrats, looks like you are the new dk lol.

jack43 01-03-2014 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jonbonazza (Post 1426563)
No header or front pipe and still making these numbers??? Dayum. I recommend at least getting a chatted header and chatted fp if sound is the issue. :)

Just with the catback and 2.5" over/downpipe I woke our sleeping baby the other day.

Can I stay on your couch?

TylerLieberman 01-03-2014 01:21 PM

Is that P1 Kart track out in Tucson?

jack43 01-03-2014 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 1427368)
Is that P1 Kart track out in Tucson?

yes

TylerLieberman 01-03-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jack43 (Post 1427454)
yes


I love that course. Drifted it once back in 2008 I believe. Probably my favorite place in Arizona besides the West Track at Firebird Raceway.

ModBargains.com 01-03-2014 03:48 PM

Awesome! Get some videos up! Would love to see this in action ;)

TouchMyHonda 01-03-2014 03:50 PM

Wait 382 whp from a Vortech... you dont have an aftermarket header? Is this real? WTFFF

cjsporl1996 01-03-2014 03:58 PM

My crystal ball sees a rebuilt engine in your future.

DAEMANO 01-03-2014 04:30 PM

All go, almost no show. Terrific build and results.

OmarGC 01-03-2014 09:47 PM

You have a power/rpm graph?

nelsmar 01-03-2014 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TouchMyHonda (Post 1427792)
Wait 382 whp from a Vortech... you dont have an aftermarket header? Is this real? WTFFF

Not very far fetched... I did 360WHP with a lower boost pulley than him. I was full 100% stock on my exhaust & header. Though I did it with slightly higher ethanol content. Tuning means a lot.

jack43 01-04-2014 12:08 AM

I had a couple free minutes on New Years to go weigh my car at the truckstop.

It is 2680lb full of gas, and 56/44%

Here is a thread where I have posted a bunch of power to weight ratios including my car now that I know what it is:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42085

Coheed 01-06-2014 04:34 AM

This car is legit. Any tuning for pump gas? Any idea on power numbers there?

Car looks great and is making awesome power. Good job!

jack43 01-06-2014 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Coheed (Post 1432673)
This car is legit. Any tuning for pump gas? Any idea on power numbers there?

Car looks great and is making awesome power. Good job!

Thanks!
With the flex fuel setup I stay on the same map all the time, and have seen 5-80% on the ethanol gauge.

You definitely feel less power on pump gas but I don't have any dynos to show it. Also I bet it runs hotter. On the upside the fuel economy pops right back up to 6-8mpg better.

The gauge in the center console:

jack43 01-06-2014 06:44 PM

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interior:
seat delete, trunk unjunk (-52lb)
JPM alcantara - knee pads, speaker pads, e-brake gasket, dash hood
carbon dash cover by Carbon Fiber Element, JDM '86' piston emblem, custom red painted stripes
Zerg carbon overlays - shift surround, steering wheel panel
console plaque - custom lol engraving
OEM armrest, black M4 hex hardware, 2 USB chargers in cigarette lighter
FA20club vent gauge
Valentine V1 radar, Blendmount (for auto-dimming mirror), MirrorTap cable
32GB Sandisk USB mini thumbdrive (7,000 songs)

jack43 01-11-2014 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbowned (Post 1375336)
Looks tough and has numbers to back it up! I think it needs some sort of spoiler, not necessarily OEM but something...

Yep.. I am torn between having the clean look with nothing on the back, and then my experience of how squirelly it is at high speeds -- probably the closest thing I have to a complaint about the car's performance.

I swapped with @Jar from Phoenix to get his FR-S trunk. This was actually really easy.. maybe taking just 15 min when you are familiar with it. Which got me thinking about owning a 2nd trunk with a big ass wing for track days.
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But over the next few months I started to realize that my setup is working like a parachute.. with an aftermarket exhaust making a hole at the tail end (where there was a big muffler). I would bet that some catback setups cost 10mph in top speed. Here is that area also with the underpanels visible:
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So I lost interest in a wing (adding parasitic drag and probably some understeer until it gets sorted out, while looking like the pizza guy) and am focusing on the underside of the car instead.

My cheesy knockoff 'diffuser' wasn't doing shit for aerodynamics, and neither does the faux diffuser-shaped rear on the back of these cars with those "fake strakes". So a real diffuser is going to be the main part of my aero tune-up. My friends locally at SPS Autosport are making me one custom.. I can't wait to show some more pics.
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:thumbup:

jack43 01-12-2014 12:30 PM

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Forcewerks lip:

kiichiro 01-12-2014 06:41 PM

Cool thread, any options for us south west folks besides remote tuners like Perrin or Toni?

jack43 01-13-2014 12:30 PM

Are you in AZ?
Joe at Goodspeed in Scottsdale can help with dyno tuning.

Otherwise things are changing quickly. The Az chat thread has group buys on Open Flash, and for Ecutek it is more 'unlocked' all the time. Nelsmar and maybe others can help with tunes in Phoenix.

cheers

nelsmar 01-13-2014 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kiichiro (Post 1448410)
Cool thread, any options for us south west folks besides remote tuners like Perrin or Toni?

What area are you in specifically? Joe at goodspeed is great. And I am able to help out as well. There is another local that is doing tuning as well up here in Phoenix over at soulless performance. He should be able to start tuning in a few weeks. And I've been working on a number of local cars my self.


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