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JordanWho 12-07-2013 02:11 AM

Any active 2JZ swap build threads?
 
As the title suggests, does anyone know of any active 2JZ swap build threads?

I'm interested in doing the conversion and was hoping to follow anyone that's currently in the process or has successfully completed the swap. Very interested to know what is actually involved and or what the challenges are.

I found a great build thread which was extremely informative, however it hasn't been updated since May. Here...

http://club4ag.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4428&p=26102

Thanks in advance.

chiefshayan 12-07-2013 05:41 AM

Same here. Can't decide between building up the FA20 or a 2JZ swap. That forum that hasn't been updated since May usually means something has gone wrong. Best bet is to wait on a full swap kit. Only swap kit I know that's out for our cars at the moment is a LS2 swap kit. Just have to wait and see..

diss7 12-07-2013 07:11 AM

It's not that hard to put a motor into anything, if it fits. The good thing we have is an engine bay that currently has a boxer in it.

It all comes down to whether you want to street it. Which in my mind answers itself. If you're thinking 2jz, your thinking more than 500hp, as otherwise you're better sticking with the fa20. So if it's that much power, it's not a street car.

You're looking at basically changing everything mechanical. Entire driveline, entire brakes/suspension/cooling/fuel system. The only thing you're using from the 86 is the shell, seriously. $30k is a lot of money to spend on a shell.

wparsons 12-07-2013 09:08 AM

IMO, the only reason to do a 2JZ swap is so you can say "OMG I HAVE A 2JZ". They're HEAVY iron block engines, and for WAY less than the swap will cost you could have a built FA20 making just as much power. Unless you're aiming for 1000hp + there's no need to go with a different engine.

jaymeister 12-07-2013 09:51 AM

Planning to do it sometime next year. ;)

SmsAlSuwaidi 12-07-2013 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wparsons (Post 1374608)
IMO, the only reason to do a 2JZ swap is so you can say "OMG I HAVE A 2JZ". They're HEAVY iron block engines, and for WAY less than the swap will cost you could have a built FA20 making just as much power. Unless you're aiming for 1000hp + there's no need to go with a different engine.

Lol , you need 25k for a 2j swap and you can push 600whp on pump all day and 800on e85 all day everyday, good luck doing that with a fa20 engine, and no its not only OMG i have a 2j thing, people use them cause they work and have a solid background on them. Ekanoos 2j gt86 was corner balanced and showed every boxter fan boy that it did not screw up balance as much people talk about.
flame suit on
To answer OP , you are looking at anything from 25 to 35K. I asked 2 people who did the swap and thats the price range they told me. I also went to the best supra/fabbin shop and thats the price i got expect that they gave me a very very long down time.



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jshadeck 12-07-2013 10:46 AM

Corner balanced is one thing. What about cog?

SmsAlSuwaidi 12-07-2013 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jshadeck (Post 1374703)
Corner balanced is one thing. What about cog?

That will obviously be altered


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jshadeck 12-07-2013 11:18 AM

Any active 2JZ swap build threads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 1374705)
That will obviously be altered


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For the people worried about the "balance" thats a big thing.

Swaps are fine, i understand them, i had a mk3 w 2jz swap myself (not a car altering swap like some swaps tho) but when u start w a really good car, there is going to be a trade off at some point, in this case seems limited to cog and price/work. As stated, unless the person needs over 500hp it does not make sense $ wise at that price (though im sure the swap can be done for less than 25k, unless that price includes ALOT of 2jz upgrades and the v160/161)

SmsAlSuwaidi 12-07-2013 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jshadeck (Post 1374733)
For the people worried about the "balance" thats a big thing.

Swaps are fine, i understand them, i had a mk3 w 2jz swap myself (not a car altering swap like some swaps tho) but when u start w a really good car, there is going to be a trade off at some point, in this case seems limited to cog and price/work. As stated, unless the person needs over 500hp it does not make sense $ wise at that price (though im sure the swap can be done for less than 25k, unless that price includes ALOT of 2jz upgrades and the v160/161)

A 2jz + v160 about 8grand in clean and immaculate condition as the 160s hate to be rebuilt
Modifying the tranny mounts
A proper fuel system 3k
A standalone can be 2k , custom harness , and incorporating the supras ecu and the 86s (total of 3) can be costly
Custom radiator
Custom intercooler
Custom driveshaft from dds 1.xk
Extensive modification to the steering rack
Single turbo swap (done properly and maybe a custom manifold )

Labour

:)


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jshadeck 12-07-2013 12:10 PM

Right. Like i said. Including a v160 and upgrades beyond "just the swap". Putting in a base 2jzgte w a diff tranny option could be done for under 10k. But like i also said, why do a 2jz if under 500hp, or even under 700

jack43 12-07-2013 12:33 PM

After a few years when the car is old enough to need emissions, will it pass?

xwd 12-07-2013 01:01 PM

It depends how you build it really but I don't think the Supra was even OBD-II, was it? You would have to hack something together using the existing BRZ ECU.

I'd probably do a LSx swap way before a 2JZ swap unless you truly want to build a large HP turbo car.

SmsAlSuwaidi 12-07-2013 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jshadeck (Post 1374791)
Right. Like i said. Including a v160 and upgrades beyond "just the swap". Putting in a base 2jzgte w a diff tranny option could be done for under 10k. But like i also said, why do a 2jz if under 500hp, or even under 700

True, i plan on boosting my block on e85 and see how long it lasts and then maybe swap , im also hopefully getting a supra soon, which might tame my 2j cravings (doubt it)


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