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QC-FRS 04-24-2012 03:13 PM

Backseat .. am i too optimist?
 
Hi people,

Having a family, I know i'm not the target market of the scion FR-S ... The car looks great, seems fun to drive. BUT I need a car that i can still take my kids in case of need where my first vehicule is not available (got the Rav4 for most of the time). So i did reserve my FRS but i'm scare that my kid wont be able to breath when seated behind :sigh:

anyone had the chance to actually check the car and the space left behind?

luxmn 04-24-2012 03:16 PM

it will fit babies and kids. teenagers and adults will feel cramp not because of the back seats themselves but because there is no room, seriously no room, to but anything else but 2 legs at almost 90 degree angle.

Jehuty77 04-24-2012 03:17 PM

There is room if their kids, I've sat in the car there is decent room. adults probably it will become unfortable for long rides, if you have babies, may have trouble getting the baby seat in the back but I'm buying one and if i have a baby a few years down the road...deal with it.

kevinnivek8877 04-24-2012 03:19 PM

I sat in the BRZ's backseat when it was demo'd at my local dealer. Your kids will hate that car once they hit puberty and grow. I am not kidding when I say they will hit their head on the glass and lose blood circulation to the legs. With that being said, this can be your personal fun car as long as you have the RAV4 for family duties.

crockpot 04-24-2012 03:36 PM

similar situation. have an 8 and 6 six year old, and plan on keeping the vehicle for 3 years. i think it will work out for me.

QC-FRS 04-24-2012 03:52 PM

Cool. That's what i hoped for... The idea is clealy the Rav4 for familly travel and cie but I ruled out two seater cuz there is always an occasion once a week or two where we need to take kids somewhere and one of the car is gone... So 2+2 seems like a good option :)

Thanks... now we want a call for the dealership right? :)

MRZ415 04-24-2012 03:58 PM

The back seats should be useable but not for long rides.
This car is Japanese in mind and body and those who is
6 feet plus will have issues with the back seat, but for those
Under 5 feet 5 (jdm girls) it should prove not to be an issue.

luxmn 04-24-2012 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRZ415 (Post 190499)
The back seats should be useable but not for long rides.
This car is Japanese in mind and body and those who is
6 feet plus will have issues with the back seat, but for those
Under 5 feet 5 (jdm girls) it should prove not to be an issue.

nah Im asian and 5'5" 125lbs, i have to cramp to seat in the back. the girls may pretend like they fit but they don't :lol: . the head room you may be right, i don't have head hitting the glass problem.

r4m3n 04-24-2012 04:04 PM

I spent 5 minutes riding in the backseat of my friend's FR-S tester. I'm 5'11" and it seriously is cramped. But fortunately, the front passenger is 5'4" so the seat was pulled a little more forward to give my legs some breathing room.

It's not a comfortable place to be for sure, but for short haul trips, it's doable. I just wouldn't recommend it.

Sigh-on-Rice 04-24-2012 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockpot (Post 190478)
similar situation. have an 8 and 6 six year old, and plan on keeping the vehicle for 3 years. i think it will work out for me.

:w00t:

bneale 04-24-2012 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigh-on-Rice (Post 190528)
:w00t:

Thats exactly what I was thinking. This is the perfect car for this guy!!

Too much 86 on the brain!

bneale

ichitaka05 04-24-2012 05:22 PM

This car is 2+2... but only can time it'll be 2+2 is all 4 were 5'4"~6" Asian chicks. Reality, it's 2+1. There's no way can fit someone behind me (me been the driver)... maybe baby w baby seat, but that's pretty much it

Khyron686 04-24-2012 05:25 PM

Mine are 4 and 1.5 - I'm hoping to fit the big Sunshine kids forward facing seats back there (narrow seats, fit in a 911). I'm 5'7 with 29" inseam so I think it will work, until they are 10.

Have a Santa Fe for any trips. Would never consider this as our only car. Strollers are HUGE. :)

One of the other considerations is the lack of windows back there. Kids like to look out windows.

ichitaka05 04-24-2012 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khyron686 (Post 190555)
Mine are 4 and 1.5 - I'm hoping to fit the big Sunshine kids forward facing seats back there (narrow seats, fit in a 911). I'm 5'7 with 29" inseam so I think it will work, until they are 10.

Have a Santa Fe for any trips. Would never consider this as our only car. Strollers are HUGE. :)

One of the other considerations is the lack of windows back there. Kids like to look out windows.

There are windows... just useless :bellyroll:

86'd 04-24-2012 05:39 PM

My kids are 0 and -3, respectively, so I think they'll fit just fine. :D

Droopy 04-24-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86'd (Post 190569)
My kids are 0 and -3, respectively, so I think they'll fit just fine. :D

:thumbsup:

Deepmist 04-24-2012 05:55 PM

Here's a pretty good video example, the guy has the front seat up a lot though:

Skip to 4:39

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK3RSjcURq4&t=4m39s"]2013 Subaru BRZ Walk Around - YouTube[/ame]

DarkSunrise 04-24-2012 06:03 PM

In one of the reviews, the author mentioned he was about 5'10, and after he had adjusted the driver seat, there was no room for anyone to sit behind him. If you're the same size or taller, I wouldn't count on anyone sitting behind you.

If your wife is 5'5 or shorter, you can probably get away with a kid sitting directly behind her for short trips.

Moto-P 04-24-2012 06:57 PM

This is a 2+2 so the seat arrangement is rather on the tight side. Luckily, like the Scion iQ, there is quite a bit of space fore of the passenger seat, so that in occasional scenarios, one can push the passenger seat forward without getting too uncomfortable at front, while clearing enough leg room for the rear passenger on the passenger side (right side of the FRS/BRZ left hand drive). I would call this a 2+1 arrangement and call it more like a 3 seater.
In the rear of the driver of any average driver however, there is no way of pushing the seat forward to give substantial space for rear passengers and get a comfortable driving position.

I would say the 4 seat configuration is only for short lunch break hauls from office. And 3 seat configuration for longer commute. and 2 seat for anything over 2 hours.

But for a nicely balanced, pure sports car, this is actually a bonus, as in most other cars of this balance and caliber, its almost always strictly 2 seat car.

neutron256 04-24-2012 07:33 PM

Forward facing child seat should be fine, rear facing is going to have problems. All the junk parents tend to lug around is a different story. This will work for transporting kids occasionally but probably incontinent if doing it regularly.

VZ86 04-24-2012 08:41 PM

I'm about 5'10", and I hopped in the back seat during the trip to Cali. I found there to be a surprisingly comfy amount of knee and head room. That, said, the front seat was squeezing right on top of my feet, so there'd probably be risk of loss of circulation on longer trips.

I'm often driving my coworkers during lunch breaks, so I've told them to enjoy it while I've still got the bigger car. That said, I think that since we've got plenty of dining options nearby and they're mostly of average height, they might still willingly suffer the back seats once I get my FR-S.

brianbot5000 04-24-2012 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86'd (Post 190569)
My kids are 0 and -3, respectively, so I think they'll fit just fine. :D

You have a -3 year old?? ;)

I plan on stuffing my 2.5 year old back there...well, he'll probably be 3 by the time I actually get the car. I'm sure he won't like being back there as much as he likes being in the SUV, cause he won't be able to see shit from back there. But he'll like going fast.

I'm less concerned about my kid's reaction than I am about all of the glares I'll get from parents as I roll up to daycare to pick up my kid in a tiny sports car. :bonk:

S2kphile 04-24-2012 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRZ415 (Post 190499)
The back seats should be useable but not for long rides.
This car is Japanese in mind and body and those who is
6 feet plus will have issues with the back seat, but for those
Under 5 feet 5 (jdm girls) it should prove not to be an issue.

:word:

I'm 5'5 & a buck 35 and I can sit in the back but not for long periods maybe cause I have minor claustrophobia. But with kids it shouldn't be a probably as long as they aren't tall & wide and it's not for prolong periods.

I see this car as a 2 or 2+1.

Rampage 04-24-2012 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianbot5000 (Post 190731)

I'm less concerned about my kid's reaction than I am about all of the glares I'll get from parents as I roll up to daycare to pick up my kid in a tiny sports car. :bonk:

Unless he is the kind that gets carsick if he cannot look out of the windows.

URP!!!!

86'd 04-24-2012 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianbot5000 (Post 190731)
You have a -3 year old?? ;)

I plan on stuffing my 2.5 year old back there...well, he'll probably be 3 by the time I actually get the car. I'm sure he won't like being back there as much as he likes being in the SUV, cause he won't be able to see shit from back there. But he'll like going fast.

I'm less concerned about my kid's reaction than I am about all of the glares I'll get from parents as I roll up to daycare to pick up my kid in a tiny sports car. :bonk:

My wife and I are planning on having a baby in a few months, and another in a couple of years.

The BRZ/FRS will be fine for me and for quick trips with our future kids.

I grew up in small sports cars; it was great. :)

luxmn 04-24-2012 10:10 PM

i think on the optimistic side, your kids will go up with great seating posture!! :lol: i grew up in Asia where your junk isnt supposed to stick out further than your forehead when you sit #kidstheseday

Indestruct 04-24-2012 10:25 PM

I sat in the back of the brz for fun, i'm 5'11'' and 170 lbs. It's a joke! squeezing back there is fine, but my head did not fit. Also if you hit a speed bump or pothole at high speeds my head would crack the window cuz it was turned sideways. However you can fit someone back there if you put the seat down and lay sideways! in a fetal position. I'm surprised no one has discussed this technique yet b/c I might employ it w/my brz.

Vracer111 04-24-2012 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indestruct (Post 190783)
I sat in the back of the brz for fun, i'm 5'11'' and 170 lbs. It's a joke! squeezing back there is fine, but my head did not fit. Also if you hit a speed bump or pothole at high speeds my head would crack the window cuz it was turned sideways. However you can fit someone back there if you put the seat down and lay sideways! in a fetal position. I'm surprised no one has discussed this technique yet b/c I might employ it w/my brz.

Plus it would keep the CoG and MoI lower! :D

denkigrve 04-24-2012 11:34 PM

I've sat in the backseat of the BRZ. I'm 5'11"/6" and weight like 165. It's cramped for me. I'd stab someone that made me sit back there for a long drive, or just drive myself. You can move the passenger seat up and have an okay amount of space.

As Neutron said, a front facing car seat should be no issue. My plan for mine is that behind the passenger is my 2 year olds seat. If you sit in the passenger seat you need to accommodate him if he's in the car as well. So mine will basically be a 2 seater since sitting behind me will be LOL.

All I'm looking forward to is hearing my son say "Gonna ride in Daddy's race car?" Every time he sees the car. He says that for the WRX wagon now, but this will look like more of a race car to him. He's gonna be so excited to see it, and ride in it.

denkigrve 04-24-2012 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianbot5000 (Post 190731)
You have a -3 year old?? ;)

I plan on stuffing my 2.5 year old back there...well, he'll probably be 3 by the time I actually get the car. I'm sure he won't like being back there as much as he likes being in the SUV, cause he won't be able to see shit from back there. But he'll like going fast.

I'm less concerned about my kid's reaction than I am about all of the glares I'll get from parents as I roll up to daycare to pick up my kid in a tiny sports car. :bonk:

Whenever I pull hard in the WRX with my son he starts laughing and saying "Daddy's going fast! That's fun!" I'm usually going 0/5mph - speed limit, but to him it's hella fast. There's nothing else like hearing it. Always makes you smile.

Regarding the glares. Fuck those morons. Some parents are idiots. They are all up in everyone else's business. I have long ass hair, wear game/car/band shirts, wear slim jeans (skinny is too much), and act like a complete clown in public with my son. I love the glares. They are likely jealous that they have to look all prim and proper and feel like they are 80. My son loves me to death, and I'd do anything for him. That's all that matters.

Xdragonxb0i 04-25-2012 12:27 AM

i only plan carrying short asian chicks so small back seat is fine =)

i think a FRS and kids are fine, assuming that you dont have more then 2. i assume your kids are 8-12 range, OP .

when they grow up, get them their own car.

Mattr762 04-25-2012 01:01 AM

Here is a photo I requested from Winding Road magazine when I learned they were going to test the FR-S.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...g?t=1335326268
And here is what they say about the rear seat room:
Quote:

Reader Mattr762 asked for a photo of an adult passenger behind the driver in the Scion FR-S, as shown here. TBM is 6' tall and while this isn't his ideal driving position, it works. The back seat has enough leg and headroom for someone about 5'10". Net: it is tight, but usable in a pinch. OTOH, the XJ8 isn't threatened.

MRZ415 04-25-2012 05:03 AM

wow
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattr762 (Post 190897)
Here is a photo I requested from Winding Road magazine when I learned they were going to test the FR-S.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...g?t=1335326268
And here is what they say about the rear seat room:

If people of their size can sit in then myself ( 5 feet 7 ) and my gf/her female friends should prove no issues since they are 5 feet 3 for the most part.

QC-FRS 04-25-2012 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattr762 (Post 190897)
Here is a photo I requested from Winding Road magazine when I learned they were going to test the FR-S.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...g?t=1335326268
And here is what they say about the rear seat room:


Nice! thanks that gives a very good idea! Kids gonna be ok! :)

sprintertrueno86 04-25-2012 06:09 PM

thats a great pic LOL

Want.FR-S 04-25-2012 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattr762 (Post 190897)
Here is a photo I requested from Winding Road magazine when I learned they were going to test the FR-S.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...g?t=1335326268
And here is what they say about the rear seat room:

This is indeed a cool picture. So the back seat is small, but not terribly small. You can still fit two 5'10" males if required. It is just that the legs are touching the back of the front seats, not a biggy.

Imagine a lunch outing with 4 males in this car, everyone is connected to one and another..... er.. better change that to one male (driver) and three beautiful females... :happyanim:

TheWatchman 04-25-2012 06:43 PM

this is the only thing that worries me about this car, im 6'2 175 and my dad is 6'3 somewhere around 300.... Although for the longest time he drove a '98 Accord V6

iDriveFast 04-25-2012 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Want.FR-S (Post 191762)
This is indeed a cool picture. So the back seat is small, but not terribly small. You can still fit two 5'10" males if required. It is just that the legs are touching the back of the front seats, not a biggy.

Imagine a lunch outing with 4 males in this car, everyone is connected to one and another..... er.. better change that to one male (driver) and three beautiful females... :happyanim:

Personally sitting in the car in the same position as the picture me (5'11'') in the rear and my friend (6'1'') sitting in the front we were both uncomfortable. Sitting in the rear if you are tall your legs will be pressed against the rear seat and you feet will be stuck under the seat unable to move. Also the driving position will be pushed up and uncomfortable. Is it possible to fit kids back there sure. Is it possible to fit tall adults in the back? sure but at the expensive of being comfortable for the driver and passengers. 0 comfort is to be expected from passengers

Want.FR-S 04-25-2012 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iDriveFast (Post 191777)
Personally sitting in the car in the same position as the picture me (5'11'') in the rear and my friend (6'1'') sitting in the front we were both uncomfortable. Sitting in the rear if you are tall your legs will be pressed against the rear seat and you feet will be stuck under the seat unable to move. Also the driving position will be pushed up and uncomfortable. Is it possible to fit kids back there sure. Is it possible to fit tall adults in the back? sure but at the expensive of being comfortable for the driver and passengers. 0 comfort is to be expected from passengers

If you are taller than 5'10", as both your friend and you are, you can probably fit, but uncomfortably compared with sitting position of any typical sedans. This is expected for the cars in this size. I would guess that bot your friend and you will not be able to sit in this fashion in a small car like Mini Cooper as well.

iDriveFast 04-25-2012 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Want.FR-S (Post 191802)
If you are taller than 5'10", as both your friend and you are, you can probably fit, but uncomfortably compared with sitting position of any typical sedans. This is expected for the cars in this size. I would guess that bot your friend and you will not be able to sit in this fashion in a small car like Mini Cooper as well.

Yes i was extremely uncomfortable. In a comfortable driving position front seat is touching the rear seats so you can only imagine how it is when you have to move up.


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