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Kostamojen 05-11-2016 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PandaSPUR (Post 2649039)
But yea, no way to adjust camber in the rear without aftermarket control arms.

The Subframe spacers from a Crosstrek would do the trick. That plus larger tires and a mild lift. Wouldn't be too much positive camber with that combination.

churchx 05-11-2016 04:30 AM

PandaSPUR: issue is relatively low ground clearance even for stock for rally-ish driving on gravel roads with potential roadholes/jumps or in deeper snow. Those plastic panels (mostly meant not for protection, but to decrease air drag)/mud flaps (to save somewhat bumper paint from chips) won't do much protecting from scraping engine/bottom. While rally sump underguard panels may help with protection when you do scrape/hit, better would be prevent scraping/hits by avoiding them completely with more ground clearance.

PandaSPUR 05-11-2016 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by churchx (Post 2649116)
PandaSPUR: issue is relatively low ground clearance even for stock for rally-ish driving on gravel roads with potential roadholes/jumps or in deeper snow. Those plastic panels (mostly meant not for protection, but to decrease air drag)/mud flaps (to save somewhat bumper paint from chips) won't do much protecting from scraping engine/bottom. While rally sump underguard panels may help with protection when you do scrape/hit, better would be prevent scraping/hits by avoiding them completely with more ground clearance.

Yea I understand that, I wasn't pointing to those underpanels as protection in a rally style race or for offroading. I assumed "farm roads" meant still relatively normal/level roads, but just with dirt and gravel.

DustinS 05-11-2016 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hot Wheels (Post 2648998)
I saw that Subtle Solutions has a premade 1" kit like this one. I know fooling with suspension requires an alignment after, but would raising it the 1" put too much positive camber on the rear? I've tried looking into being able to adjust rear camber for cheap, but all I've found was expensive control arms. Sorry, but you'll need to keep it simple with me, as I am just learning about our cars. I live in Kansas around a lot of dirt/gravel farm roads, and the extra ground clearance would give me more peace of mind.

Ran for a winter with the Lift kit and didn't seen any adverse tire wear. You can get a set of SPC LCAs for like $230. Which in the grand scheme of things isn't too bad.

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...8b&oe=57DDA59C

IPGJames 05-11-2016 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DustinS (Post 2649448)

That looks badass

Freeman 05-11-2016 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by churchx (Post 2649116)
PandaSPUR: issue is relatively low ground clearance even for stock for rally-ish driving on gravel roads with potential roadholes/jumps or in deeper snow. Those plastic panels (mostly meant not for protection, but to decrease air drag)/mud flaps (to save somewhat bumper paint from chips) won't do much protecting from scraping engine/bottom. While rally sump underguard panels may help with protection when you do scrape/hit, better would be prevent scraping/hits by avoiding them completely with more ground clearance.



Sounds like a rally build would be right up your alley. Nameless Performance Rally BRZ on the bottom. liftedbrz from Instagram on the top. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...8bf1f2c3e4.jpg

BigFatFlip 05-11-2016 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hot Wheels (Post 2648998)
I saw that Subtle Solutions has a premade 1" kit like this one. I know fooling with suspension requires an alignment after, but would raising it the 1" put too much positive camber on the rear? I've tried looking into being able to adjust rear camber for cheap, but all I've found was expensive control arms. Sorry, but you'll need to keep it simple with me, as I am just learning about our cars. I live in Kansas around a lot of dirt/gravel farm roads, and the extra ground clearance would give me more peace of mind.

How much ground clearance are you trying to get? You might be able to get away with a combination of 1/4" or 3/8" spacers and a "taller" tire. I've looked into it myself and took some measurements on the trailing arm. Seemed to only result in minimal (+) camber. I was able to do my TSD (on gravel/dirt fire roads) by just cranking up the ride height on my ohlins and using an old set of 225/60 I had laying around. Handled like crap, but did the job :lol:

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Originally Posted by DustinS (Post 2649448)
Ran for a winter with the Lift kit and didn't seen any adverse tire wear. You can get a set of SPC LCAs for like $230. Which in the grand scheme of things isn't too bad.

^this (looks badass btw!). Its been a while since I've looked at the subtle solutions website, but it looks like they now sell SPC LCAs and "alignment correction" kits. I've never liked the lack of detail on their website, but I've found them to be very responsive with e-mail.

DustinS 05-11-2016 03:02 PM

You can also look into Anderson Design and Fabrication. He takes into account camber setting and adjusts his kits accordingly. So Camber stays within Factory specs. He has a lot of great products and good customer service as well. Can't really go wrong with either company.

EAGLE5 05-11-2016 04:17 PM

I wonder if the stock LCAs can't be reinforced and then re-drilled. A bit low-rent, I'm sure, but then so is a threaded rod end in bending, which is what every single adjustable solution uses for our platform.

There's also the whiteline camber bushings.

DustinS 05-11-2016 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jsimon7777 (Post 2649676)
I wonder if the stock LCAs can't be reinforced and then re-drilled. A bit low-rent, I'm sure, but then so is a threaded rod end in bending, which is what every single adjustable solution uses for our platform.

There's also the whiteline camber bushings.

Both SPC and the Whiteline LCAs are almost exactly like stock arms with a slotted adjustment. Plus it is adjustable.

http://www.ft86speedfactory.com/medi...7660-1_1_1.jpg

EAGLE5 05-11-2016 04:47 PM

I believe the SPC control arms have reports of snapping bolts in that slot. Hence me not suggesting slots.

Hot Wheels 05-15-2016 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DustinS (Post 2649448)
Ran for a winter with the Lift kit and didn't seen any adverse tire wear. You can get a set of SPC LCAs for like $230. Which in the grand scheme of things isn't too bad.

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...8b&oe=57DDA59C

What size wheels and tires are those? I think I have decided that 16 inch wheels with meatier tires on stock suspension could be my solution for now, considering that for every 10 miles on farm roads I do 100 highway. I need a middle ground approach.

DustinS 05-16-2016 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Hot Wheels (Post 2653194)
What size wheels and tires are those? I think I have decided that 16 inch wheels with meatier tires on stock suspension could be my solution for now, considering that for every 10 miles on farm roads I do 100 highway. I need a middle ground approach.

16x6.5? WRX Wheels with 215/65/16 You would not be able to fit these with stock suspension. This requires a 1" lift


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