Acura ILX
 

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/20/a...x-from-25-900/

Starting at ~$26,000, 2.0L engine (150 hp).
Hybrid ~$29,000, (1.5L engine) 39/38 mpg (city/highway).

This car is based off of the civic, so what do you think? Yay or nay?

Another boring non-engaging boat to add to the sea of boats.:thumbdown:

It does however make the FRS look much more valuable:thumbup:

That's what I was thinking. I've never driven an Acura I didn't enjoy but I think it's safe to assume that the FR-S/BRZ will handle better. The hybrid doesn't look too bad as a sporty daily driver, given that it doesn't need premium gas.

Entry-Level my ass! Bring back the integra or RSX.

So its the official CSX for the States?
We've had a rebadged Civic up here in Canada for years.

Where the Civic in NA looks like it does, the CSX up in Canada pretty much looked like the JDM Civic sedans.

Looks a lot better than the civic but for almost 10k more, lol wut

One thing for sure, it looks a hell of a lot better then the civic. Still not interested though.

Wow Honda... Really?

Torqueless wonder!!!!

Can Honda make attractive cars like old day? This is beyond boring.

It's such a NAY! Pretty much anything and everything coming out of Honda/Acura franchise is lackluster. Honda has lost it's way so bad I don't know if they could ever recover in this decade. It's sad actually. I used to love Honda/Acura, but they just don't have anything in their line up that caters to enthusiasts.

WTF happened to Acura!! Same ass boring car with the same ass boring look! :thumbdown:

I think I'm going to apply to be a Acura designer. You just throw an Acura badge on an already pitiful Civic and say, "All done!" That's the equivalent of taking an apple, painting it orange and telling the CEO you've improved the damn thing. Honda's stake owners need to read this related story of being duped:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Clothes

Looks really boring. Aren't they cutting the TSX off for this too? TSX was one of the best cars they had too.

And sadly the one of the better looking cars in the Acura/Honda lineup, imo.

Hopefully the new NSX will bring back some of that luster that Honda lost.

For the love of god Acura, make a damn coupe for christ's sake. Their cars are so boring now they are putting me to sleep. My first car was a 97 Acura 2.2Cl so I have a soft spot for them but the only car in their line-up I would consider is the TSX and even that is iffy. Damn shame where Honda has gone with their cars.

I thought they were just making it larger again but I'm not sure. I haven't been paying attention lately.

The 6MT TL SH-AWD is actually fun to drive though. The TSX can be with a LSD and better dampers and springs.

That's about it.

Honda is clearly okay with resting on their laurels and ignoring the performance market altogether. :thumbdown:

Seriously, a 150 hp "luxury" sedan?!

The Acura design language is repulsive ("beak front end") and it is turning off customers in droves.

The "new" Civic was made even cheaper (interior bits) and less engaging than the 8th generation.

5 speed automatics are still Honda's norm though every other competitor has switched to at least a six speed for improved fuel economy and acceleration.

No RWD cars. No S2000, No NSX, not even a fun, FWD "performance" car (the new Si left me disappointed).

Honda is going to continue to lose market share.

I read an article on either Motortrend or Cars and Drivers that Acura's going to cut either the TSX or TL. I'm guessing since ILX is a entry-luxury, as well as TSX, they're going to cut TSX.

not 100% sure about the the info, but I'm pretty sure I read that part.

Yeah we've had a rebadged Civic for many years in Canada, 2 generations of EL, 1 generation of CSX, and now the ILX. :)

Jeff

If Acura wants to lure younger customers or with stricter budgets, then this might work. The design isn't repulsive imo, but could have done up differently instead of almost resembling a TSX. And if Acura decides to axe the TSX then they are going to be making a huge mistake. The TSX is actually pretty good for what it is and I almost would want to prefer that car over their current model of the TL.

Wouldn't put it past Honda to kill their only remaining decent product and replace it with a POS. :thumbdown:

Yeah I totally give up on them. The only way Acura can get me looking there way again is if they made a small RSX with RWD, plus the 2.4 liter engine with D/I added and turn out as light or slightly heavier than a FRS with gorgeous low slung styling and tight dynamics.

Worked good for Honda sells eh?!

My understanding from talking to them awhile ago (ie 1.5 years ago) was that the TSX would move up and either the RL or TL would go away.

Times change though and I haven't cared enough about any of them to follow them that closely.

If the ILX does replace the TSX I think it's a good move as the 2.4L TSX motor is available in the ILX. A smaller TSX is a good thing, not a bad thing IMO. Now if it's mac strut instead of double wishbone like the TSX, that is a bad thing.

Half-ass effort pretty much sums up the car. I would of let it passed if the price point was reasonable but it is nearly 27k which is ridiculous. They seem not to care about the view about the caring average consumer and result nobody cares anymore about Honda/Acura. NSX is keeping their company alive and consumers who buy their cars because they don't care about cars that they listen to. Stop making excuses, stop listening to those careless consumers, and start being the company that once made good cars.

It's funny how the big three all almost went under for offering inferior products. Now the Honda, Toyota, VW, even MB seem to think offering low rent crap is going to net them sales. I just don't understand the thought process. Sure gm pulled it off for a while, but that wasn't because their products were preferred, it was brand loyalty and/or ignorance. Both went away with the information age. Now these companies are trying to rely on loyal customers and it just isn't going to work. The world has changed a lot, or at least the north American car market has. If the antiquated big three can change with it, why can't the companies that have prided themselves on keeping up with both technology and the times.

Toyota and Subaru have something special with the twins, but that's not amazing, it's sad. It's a rear suspension from one car & a front suspension from another car, grafted onto a small chassis. The engine isn't ground breaking nor is the formula of the car, ford did this exact same thing years ago, they called it the mustang. In the world of cars this car should seem mundane. I sometimes wonder if I plan on buying an FRS just as an excerise in democracy, it's my vote that this car, and more like it, need to be in the market.

IIRC, I believe that Acura is going to cut the RL. IMO, Honda/Acura hasn't made a decent car since the last gen of the S2000.

As for the 2.4L K24 engine, they are currently using that in two other models already (i.e 2012 Civic SI and 2012 Acura TSX). Not that its a bad engine or anything but using it again in the ILX just seems lazy...

EDIT: make that five models: Civic Si, TSX, Accord, Crosstour and CR-V.

From what I've read Acura is going to continue production on the RL (new one coming this year IIRC), TL and will drop the TSX (ILX is it's replacement).

Too many conflicting articles going around. :mad0259:

Rather cut my nuts off than drive a car with 150 hp

Will you cut off just one if it has 200 hp?

RLX concept... I think they are going to change the name to RLX. Now they have ILX, RLX, MDX, and RDX. LOL We need more Xs.

I think it's safe to say I won't be buying that anytime soon.

I actually really like the ILX, the interior and exterior look nice. It has a decent motor as well (the 2.4L).

I'm actually more curious if Lexus will follow this lead.

I hope they do...

What lead? Lexus said that they will not go more down market. They will offer CT as the lower model for now. I don't see why they would go smaller since they want to establish more up scale products.

+1 I don't think Lexus needs any more cars lower than their current line up.

They sort of did....remember the HS250h?

That was pretty much a prius in a suit. That thing flopped hard.

Then they brought out the CT200h, which was a far better machine because although it was still a slow hybrid, it actually matched a segment of the competition (which alot of them have hatchbacks as entry level models), and is apparently a far better drive too.

Plus the new ES getting a hybrid powertrain pretty much puts the final nail in the HS coffin.

They just really need to put a regular motor in the CT. Imagine, a CT250 (yeah i know a CT350 would be better) with the 2.5L V6 from the IS250, thing would haul ass.