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Figo 11-27-2013 03:29 PM

Can anyone confirm the engine in a 2015 Subaru WRX?
 
This is from Subaru official website:

NEW 268-HORSEPOWER 2.0-LITER DIRECT-INJECTION TURBOCHARGED SUBARU BOXER ENGINE

Sounds like a turbo vision FA20 with plastic cover.

So anyone can confirm this?


http://media.caranddriver.com/images...s-1280x782.jpg

http://www.digitaltrends.com/wp-cont...WRX-teaser.jpg

http://images.thecarconnection.com/l...00446882_l.jpg

Figo 11-27-2013 03:29 PM

Another engine pic

http://indianautosblog.com/wp-conten...WRX-engine.jpg

dehydratedH2O 11-27-2013 03:34 PM

Yep, looks like an FA20 to me, based on what I can see. The oil filter is pretty much a dead giveaway, combined with the DI.

Figo 11-27-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dehydratedH2O (Post 1356900)
Yep, looks like an FA20 to me, based on what I can see. The oil filter is pretty much a dead giveaway, combined with the DI.

I am about 70% sure but not 100% that it is a modified FA20. You might see the detail in the image below.

Just cannot imagine that Subaru would waste money to design another 2.0 boxer engine.

SirBrass 11-27-2013 03:44 PM

It the FA20DIT. No port injection, and probably with lower compression pistons.

fitcious 11-27-2013 04:06 PM

Spoke to the Subaru rep at the LA Auto Show and they said the direct injection was from subaru and not toyota..

hmong337 11-27-2013 04:11 PM

waiting to learn more on this...

so no port injection? i wonder if anything pertaining the block and heads is actually different.

SirBrass 11-27-2013 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fitcious (Post 1356976)
Spoke to the Subaru rep at the LA Auto Show and they said the direct injection was from subaru and not toyota..

Yup. What we've got in the 86's is Toyota's hybrid DI/PI system, not a pure DI system like the non-collaboration Subarus.

Whitigir 11-27-2013 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SirBrass (Post 1356993)
Yup. What we've got in the 86's is Toyota's hybrid DI/PI system, not a pure DI system like the non-collaboration Subarus.

That is correct. Toyota also filed Patent about using that together with Integrated Turbo multi-port.

I hear that WRX will use that FA20 with lower compression ratio and use their own DI, not the Hybrid one that Toyota have.

Subaru wanted Toyota DI system because how friendly they are with FI system, as Subaru already have Hybrid Turbo patented.

Regardless, you can still buy the whole setup and bolt it on to the BRZ....LOL. I am sure with how much the after market is doing to the BRZ nowadays. They will have no problem tuning it to 300 HP.

Though, don't expect the OEM set to be cheap. I am guessing in the range of 4-5k without labor

SirBrass 11-27-2013 04:33 PM

And it may not fit. The OEM configuration is set up for a TMIC, which is something that the BRZ's bay simply has NO room for. That also means it's a rear-mounted turbo, so there's NO space in the BRZ bay for that. You'd have to relocate everything and then retune as well as sacrificing the benefit of the collaboration FA20's high CR.

Better, I think, to spend about $5k-$6k with labor to go with a turbo or SC kit made for stock CRs.

Hazzard 11-27-2013 04:58 PM

Don't the Legacy and Forester have a 2.0 DIT with a turbo in front and a top mount intercooler?

ichitaka05 11-27-2013 05:11 PM

Hazzard is correct.

This is FA20DIT. Same one as currently JDM Legacy 2.0DIT & totally different DI than our FRS/BRZ DI

m.wood0213 11-27-2013 05:25 PM

I don't think Subaru would blatantly say its an FA20 because Toyota might demand royalties from the sales. However, FA20DIT might get Toyota away. I must say its not a pretty as our engine is.

chrisl 11-27-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by m.wood0213 (Post 1357121)
I don't think Subaru would blatantly say its an FA20 because Toyota might demand royalties from the sales. However, FA20DIT might get Toyota away. I must say its not a pretty as our engine is.

Why would Toyota demand royalties? The only part of the engine design that is Toyota-based is the injection system, and this engine doesn't use the Toyota direct/port injection setup.


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