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Andy@FA20Club 11-26-2013 02:14 PM

FA20CLUB Oil Cooler Kit Liquid/Liquid
 
FA20Club is pleased to bring the FT86 community the FA20Club liquid to liquid oil cooler kit. :thumbup:


After months of testing on both road race and forced induction vehicles we have come up with a suitable kit for all owners of the BRZ & FR-S. What makes our kit differ from the competition is the ease of installation as well as the ability to run the high CFM OEM fans without compromising your pre-existing components. What this means to you is no more stressing on hot to relocate of modify your turbos intercoler or premounted transmission coolers for those AT owners. This kit is guaranteed to fit Innovate, Vortech, P&L, RevWorks, D3PE, Kraftwerks, AVO, Jackson Racing as well as our kits without issues.

We start off with a Billet machines spacer with bulletted port to help maintain oil pressure unlike the cheap adapters currently available. We then give you the option for either thermostatic or non thermostatic sandwich adapters. Lines are supplied in either stainless steel braided or nylon braided with Petroleum compatible liners.


The epicenter of the kit is the high quality Laminova Oil Cooler assembly. For those not familiar with them a simple Google search will yield tons of information regarding their products that are world famous for heat exchanging in fluid & air charge products. This causes a slight increase in price but lends to the quality we seek with this kit. Our initial testing saw consistent temps in the area of 195-197 degrees with consecutive laps and back to back 500HP dyno passes on our turbocharged vehicle without cool down times. This is the advantage to a fluid cooled system vs air. The system is cooled by the high capacity Aluminum Radiator that flows fluid through the oil cooler assembly making it possible to get your oil temp to match that of your cooler engine coolant temps. What this shows is a level of consistency with the system that will both provide you the owner consistent power delivery as well as protecting your engines exposure to the harsh conditions associated with high oil temps and breakdown because of it.

mike the snake 11-26-2013 02:24 PM

So is this an integrated radiator/oil cooler like the Robispec, or is it a separate water cooled oil cooler?

I see what looks like a radiator with lines and takeoff plate in one pic, and what looks like an oil cooler in front of the radiator in the other pic.

jamesm 11-26-2013 03:22 PM

looks awesome! a little pricey but those cores aren't cheap. is it possible to move the core over to the side a bit for those of us with air filters where it is now? it'd probably fit but i'd imagine that thing gets pretty hot, probably better to move it away from the air filter a bit if possible.

also, where does the radiator go? between the stock rad and the intercooler?

Andy@FA20Club 11-26-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mike the snake (Post 1354361)
So is this an integrated radiator/oil cooler like the Robispec, or is it a separate water cooled oil cooler?

In a way yes but we offer an external exchange which provides a better disposition and will increase efficiency vs. one that is all integrated.

Andy@FA20Club 11-26-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesm (Post 1354540)
looks awesome! a little pricey but those cores aren't cheap. is it possible to move the core over to the side a bit for those of us with air filters where it is now? it'd probably fit but i'd imagine that thing gets pretty hot, probably better to move it away from the air filter a bit if possible.

also, where does the radiator go? between the stock rad and the intercooler?

You do have flexibility on sliding the cooler a bit for mounting purpose:thumbsup:.

We chose this setup as it does not require any modification of your current setups. Meaning that the radiator is a direct replacement for your OEM and uses your OEM fans/shroud. This way if your kits fit with your OEM radiator:respekt: then this kit will work for you.

jamesm 11-26-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy@FA20Club (Post 1354607)
You do have flexibility on sliding the cooler a bit for mounting purpose:thumbsup:.

We chose this setup as it does not require any modification of your current setups. Meaning that the radiator is a direct replacement for your OEM and uses your OEM fans/shroud. This way if your kits fit with your OEM radiator:respekt: then this kit will work for you.

oh so the radiator provided replaces the stock rad, not supplementing it. that's awesome! i'd guess it's an improvement over the stock unit.

makes the price seem a lot more reasonable :)

Andy@FA20Club 11-26-2013 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesm (Post 1354640)
oh so the radiator provided replaces the stock rad, not supplementing it. that's awesome! i'd guess it's an improvement over the stock unit.

makes the price seem a lot more reasonable :)

Thanks sorry if was not clear but all pieces pictured will be shipped as a new kit.;)

Calum 11-26-2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy@FA20Club (Post 1354964)
Thanks sorry if was not clear but all pieces pictured will be shipped as a new kit.;)

It's still not clear, to me anyway. Why is the new radiator required? Does it include the inlet/outlet ports to provide the oil cooler? Or is it just marketing as most customers that want the oil cooler, will also want the rad? Not that the marketing option would be bad, I'm just trying understand.

It is a nice looking product, I'm a big fan of the stability and reliability of a liquid to liquid setup. Did you guys do any testing on oil warm up times, stock vs. non-thermostatic vs. thermostatic setup?

Sportsguy83 11-26-2013 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Calum (Post 1355042)
It's still not clear, to me anyway. Why is the new radiator required? Does it include the inlet/outlet ports to provide the oil cooler? Or is it just marketing as most customers that want the oil cooler, will also want the rad? Not that the marketing option would be bad, I'm just trying understand.

It is a nice looking product, I'm a big fan of the stability and reliability of a liquid to liquid setup. Did you guys do any testing on oil warm up times, stock vs. non-thermostatic vs. thermostatic setup?


As I see it its a Mishimoto bigger radiator, with a Laminova type oil cooler. I guess they include an aftermarket radiator since adding a turbo is already taxing the stock cooling system so adding an liquid to liquid oil cooler would be even worse on the stock cooling system.


Edit: The radiator is not just a Mishimoto, its modified to supply the water directly from the endtank. See here:

http://www.fa20club.com/image.php?type=D&id=92

Calum 11-26-2013 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 1355105)
As I see it its a Mishimoto bigger radiator, with a Laminova type oil cooler. I guess they include an aftermarket radiator since adding a turbo is already taxing the stock cooling system so adding an liquid to liquid oil cooler would be even worse on the stock cooling system.

Most likely, but I'm not sure if the Mishimoto rad is playing a bigger part then that. I guess I could just ask where the coolant is T'd off from and see what the response is.

Lawnik 11-26-2013 09:30 PM

^thats the question I would like to know the answer to. I can't tell from the posted pictures, but where is the coolant coming from and going to from the oil cooler? A diagram would be great.

Thanks

Sportsguy83 11-26-2013 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Calum (Post 1355205)
Most likely, but I'm not sure if the Mishimoto rad is playing a bigger part then that. I guess I could just ask where the coolant is T'd off from and see what the response is.

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Originally Posted by Lawnik (Post 1355424)
^thats the question I would like to know the answer to. I can't tell from the posted pictures, but where is the coolant coming from and going to from the oil cooler? A diagram would be great.

Thanks

See the edit to my post above, it is not just a Mishimoto rad, its a Mishi rad modified with endtank ports to supply and return the water. This is a really nice cooling option.

Lawnik 11-26-2013 11:38 PM

Thank you for clarifying, that definitely increases the uniqueness of this kit.

Does the stock snorkel still fit?

Dezoris 11-27-2013 12:17 AM

With such extreme cooling, what are the daily driving numbers.

AKA:
How long before the oil gets up to temp?
Cold weather performance? (Over cooling)

Or is it always going to settle the oil temps at the coolant temp.


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