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Deadspool 02-26-2014 05:54 PM

He is working on finding a sensor to go above 10psi.

JerryMichaels7 02-26-2014 06:06 PM

whats wrong with omni 3 or 4 bar?

mhiscott 02-26-2014 06:13 PM

I've got an Omni 4 bar left over from my Evo build... Would be nice to be able to use it on the FRS.

sw20kosh 02-26-2014 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmccut (Post 1559329)
They have a few on this thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37736


I'm worried that I'll be limited to 11psi of boost and will make less power than I am now (running 9:1 c/r), albeit hopefully with better low speed drivability.

Anyone know why the torque curve dies at 6k rpm? I don't believe that is typical of the kit is it?

Here is Fullblown's 91 oct graph:

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p...550B1FBFE8.jpg

Sportsguy83 02-26-2014 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmccut (Post 1555179)
For the FullBlown kit you mention a 10 psi MAP sensor is required. Does that limit the tuning to 10/11psi? What are the options for running more boost?

A MAP sensor bigger than stock (2,3,4 BAR etc) is not REQUIRED. It is a great benefit to install a boost cut in the tune, and it IS required if the tune will be suing speed density. But is the tune is using MAF, the MAP sensor upgrade is not absolutely required.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryMichaels7 (Post 1559502)
whats wrong with omni 3 or 4 bar?

OMNI MAP sensors are kind of PoS...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhiscott (Post 1559533)
I've got an Omni 4 bar left over from my Evo build... Would be nice to be able to use it on the FRS.

It might not fit, they vary in shape and form. The 06+ S2K is the charm...

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw20kosh (Post 1559765)
Anyone know why the torque curve dies at 6k rpm? I don't believe that is typical of the kit is it?

Here is Fullblown's 91 oct graph:

A GTX28 or similar sized turbo usually tapers a wee little bit up top. That curve looks ok to me.

mhiscott 02-26-2014 08:29 PM

The Omnipower one is much larger than stock and would have to surface mount in the engine bay a plumb into a vac source. A straight swap definitely sounds easier/cleaner. I'll be getting a Honda one too I suspect.

sw20kosh 02-26-2014 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 1559846)



A GTX28 or similar sized turbo usually tapers a wee little bit up top. That curve looks ok to me.

I was referring to the dyno above my post, not the dyno in my post. =) If that is still what you meant then disregard this.

Sportsguy83 02-26-2014 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw20kosh (Post 1560095)
I was referring to the dyno above my post, not the dyno in my post. =) If that is still what you meant then disregard this.

Oh! I see what you mean now. Yeah, curious about it too. Usually it can hold better than that up top.

sw20kosh 02-26-2014 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 1560106)
Oh! I see what you mean now. Yeah, curious about it too. Usually it can hold better than that up top.

I have noticed that Dyno Dynamics and Mustang dyno's exhibit this top end torque tapper much more prominently than dynojets but this one example is very extreme.

I read that clutch slipping was an issue on the Full blown kit on e85 but surely not at these 91 oct levels of power?

Cal3000 02-27-2014 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Zach3794 (Post 1559306)
Attachment 68502

Oh look, 276whp, supercharged, and 33mpg highway? Now that's delicious ;)


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What kit are you running and mods?

Zach3794 02-27-2014 02:11 AM

Kraftwerks, most everything is stock power wise aside from catback and front pipe.


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pmccut 02-27-2014 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83 (Post 1559846)
A MAP sensor bigger than stock (2,3,4 BAR etc) is not REQUIRED. It is a great benefit to install a boost cut in the tune, and it IS required if the tune will be suing speed density. But is the tune is using MAF, the MAP sensor upgrade is not absolutely required.

Of course. I have the stock MAP on mine now as that is what FullBlown prefers to tune with, but I had the 3bar OMNI when I was on a Visconti tune. DeliciousTuning does SD for their tunes so the 11psi MAP sensor would be the limiting factor as far as I know. I'm at 15psi on 91 now..hoping I don't end up making less power is all..but drivability...decisions.

SmsAlSuwaidi 02-27-2014 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmccut (Post 1560693)
Of course. I have the stock MAP on mine now as that is what FullBlown prefers to tune with, but I had the 3bar OMNI when I was on a Visconti tune. DeliciousTuning does SD for their tunes so the 11psi MAP sensor would be the limiting factor as far as I know. I'm at 15psi on 91 now..hoping I don't end up making less power is all..but drivability...decisions.

when are you coming down to bill ?
I might be tuning my car in a week ( next weekend or somewhere around that time frame )

pmccut 02-27-2014 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi (Post 1560700)
when are you coming down to bill ?
I might be tuning my car in a week ( next weekend or somewhere around that time frame )

Next week I'll be at Infamous on Thursday to swap to the GTX3076R, Friday is the tune. I am excited :)

Cjymiller 02-27-2014 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pmccut (Post 1560705)
I am excited :)


I am excited too.

SmsAlSuwaidi 02-27-2014 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmccut (Post 1560705)
Next week I'll be at Infamous on Thursday to swap to the GTX3076R, Friday is the tune. I am excited :)


Omg im aiming for friday/sat :) im doing a gtx3076 .63 too !!!




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DeliciousTuning 02-27-2014 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmccut (Post 1559329)
They have a few on this thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37736


I'm worried that I'll be limited to 11psi of boost and will make less power than I am now (running 9:1 c/r), albeit hopefully with better low speed drivability.

It is the way the dyno reads, intertia dyno's read a little differently then eddy current dyno's. I am sure if you dropped this car on a dynojet you would see different numbers and curves.

In regards to boost control. I do currently use speed density but if the MAP sensor does get near maxed out I can use a hybrid mode and use the MAF sensor for additional control above that limit.

I am also sourcing another replacement MAP sensor (OEM part) that are found to be very reliable.

Cheers,
William Knose

sw20kosh 02-27-2014 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zach3794 (Post 1560646)
Kraftwerks, most everything is stock power wise aside from catback and front pipe.


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Do you have a dynojet plot? I want to see the kraftwerks kit generate ~270 whp on CA91 octane.

Zach3794 02-27-2014 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sw20kosh (Post 1562421)
Do you have a dynojet plot? I want to see the kraftwerks kit generate ~270 whp on CA91 octane.

I'd be more than happy to go dyno on a dynojet if I was reimbursed :) Right now the dyno we've been testing and tuning on is a Mustang, and that's been free to us so far since Bill is on good terms with Infamous. To please the crowd, however, I'm more than willing to do a dynojet run in the coming month or two to show numbers for both 91 and E85 once that is finished.

Deadspool 02-27-2014 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning (Post 1561902)
In regards to boost control. I do currently use speed density but if the MAP sensor does get near maxed out I can use a hybrid mode and use the MAF sensor for additional control above that limit.

Is this something that is, or can be done in the Fullblown tune? I would like to creep back up to 12-13 psi again.

Thanks!

mit_peid 02-28-2014 05:12 PM

Bill,

I have the canned tune from KW from their S/C kit, but I am thinking I’d likely be very interested in getting your updated 91 tune for the kit after having spent some time with the factory tune (which I understand was tuned by Delicious as well).

I believe my question has more to do with ECUtek and how the flash licenses work than anything. I am confused as to what I can program and how often. Once I get my S/C installed [hopefully this Sunday], I will load the factory canned tuned from KW which I believe will drop my “Remaining Flash Licenses” from 1 to 0.

As for my ECU programming noob question: If I purchase an updated ECUtek tune from you (or another tuner), I’m assuming that would bump the tally back from 0 to 1. Do I have the freedom to switch back-and-forth between the various tunes (stock, KW factory, and updated Delicious 91) as many times as I wish? If not, seems to be a lot of money to pay to not be able to switch between the tunes that I’ve purchased.

pmccut 02-28-2014 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mit_peid (Post 1565175)
Bill,

I have the canned tune from KW from their S/C kit, but I am thinking I’d likely be very interested in getting your updated 91 tune for the kit after having spent some time with the factory tune (which I understand was tuned by Delicious as well).

I believe my question has more to do with ECUtek and how the flash licenses work than anything. I am confused as to what I can program and how often. Once I get my S/C installed [hopefully this Sunday], I will load the factory canned tuned from KW which I believe will drop my “Remaining Flash Licenses” from 1 to 0.

As for my ECU programming noob question: If I purchase an updated ECUtek tune from you (or another tuner), I’m assuming that would bump the tally back from 0 to 1. Do I have the freedom to switch back-and-forth between the various tunes (stock, KW factory, and updated Delicious 91) as many times as I wish? If not, seems to be a lot of money to pay to not be able to switch between the tunes that I’ve purchased.

The license is tied to the car not the tuner. You can go get a tune from anyone else and the license will still be valid. Ecutek reads it before attempting to flash your ecu.

mit_peid 02-28-2014 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmccut (Post 1565201)
The license is tied to the car not the tuner. You can go get a tune from anyone else and the license will still be valid. Ecutek reads it before attempting to flash your ecu.

So after my initial programming where my license is forever tied to the ECU on my car, I can program the ECU as many times as I wish as long as I have the .bin file?

Zach3794 02-28-2014 05:24 PM

You can, yes, but there won't be any reason to switch back to the KW "factory" tune


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mit_peid 02-28-2014 05:32 PM

How about say 4 years down the line when it is time to do smog? will the smog test guys know the difference between the tunes?

Zach3794 02-28-2014 05:38 PM

Lol no, the only computer check they'll do is for stored obdII codes. What you may have to worry about is the visual inspection bit.


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kiichiro 02-28-2014 05:48 PM

How do I get an appointment on the delicious dyno?

Zach3794 02-28-2014 05:51 PM

Best suggestion would be to leave Bill a message and he will get back to you :)


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kiichiro 02-28-2014 11:19 PM

MSG left

Comfy locking in my dyno day slot with a deposit, need help and want it now. Seems this or a trip to Ohio for me is next

Euro GT86 03-01-2014 05:33 PM

@DeliciousTuning

I am very new to the whole tuning world, and just purchased a GT86 last week.
In the near future I want to upgrade the power on my car. (Currently saving up)

Having done my homework, I want to use a super charger due to exhaust norms in europe, power distribution, etc.

Currently Kraftwerks seems to have a great, reliable system that works on a stock GT86. Creating enough horse power to have fun, but no need to upgrade other parts.
(Such as clutch, fuel pump, injectors, exhaust)

How comfortable would you be doing a remote tune if I were to use the EcuTeK data logging kit?

I would be running 95 RON or 98 RON.

I am unable to find dyno-tuning places in Europe that have experience with the GT86 or the Kraftwerks SC.

I look forward to your reply or any tips you may have.
If anyone else has tips, please let me know by PM.

Thanks.

regal 03-13-2014 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning (Post 1520643)
Hi, would this in regards to the completely stock tune on the vehicle, that it drops to 500 RPM's? Yes even my car does that and I have not looked into that much as of yet, but I will. I will need to look at this a little more closely to see exactly what is causing it and take a look at it.

All pricing is on our website.

But it is something I will look at a little more as it is a common problem in every vehicle.

Cheers,
William Knose



Is your base package (cable,license, remote tune) starting with the latest B01C factory stock ROM. IMHO its important because 2012 build owners have waited almost 2 year for a OEM approved RoM flash. I don't think they would have delayed that long without something important added. Also the letters sent out about the B01C specifically referred to idle dips.

DeliciousTuning 03-15-2014 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiichiro (Post 1566082)
MSG left

Comfy locking in my dyno day slot with a deposit, need help and want it now. Seems this or a trip to Ohio for me is next

Sorry for my delay. Big things are happening and just trying to get things are sorted out for the year; shop, products, development tunes and scheduling. I am currently booked out through April but trying to open up some more days. More info coming soon.

I will be looking at messages and email a little later tonight. Got to spend some time with the family once in a while.

Cheers,
William Knose

DeliciousTuning 03-15-2014 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Euro GT86 (Post 1567493)
@DeliciousTuning

I am very new to the whole tuning world, and just purchased a GT86 last week.
In the near future I want to upgrade the power on my car. (Currently saving up)

Having done my homework, I want to use a super charger due to exhaust norms in europe, power distribution, etc.

Currently Kraftwerks seems to have a great, reliable system that works on a stock GT86. Creating enough horse power to have fun, but no need to upgrade other parts.
(Such as clutch, fuel pump, injectors, exhaust)

How comfortable would you be doing a remote tune if I were to use the EcuTeK data logging kit?

I would be running 95 RON or 98 RON.

I am unable to find dyno-tuning places in Europe that have experience with the GT86 or the Kraftwerks SC.

I look forward to your reply or any tips you may have.
If anyone else has tips, please let me know by PM.

Thanks.

Remote tunes on the Kraftwerks kits are pretty solid. With the tunes we have they basically drop right in and we can refine the tune bit for fuel and altitude, but besides that they are pretty good right off the bat.

The Kraftwerks kit on our development car is pretty "kick-ass". I definitely would recommend the kit in respect to the power delivery and good low end torque.

Cheers,
William Knose

DeliciousTuning 03-15-2014 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regal (Post 1595799)
Is your base package (cable,license, remote tune) starting with the latest B01C factory stock ROM. IMHO its important because 2012 build owners have waited almost 2 year for a OEM approved RoM flash. I don't think they would have delayed that long without something important added. Also the letters sent out about the B01C specifically referred to idle dips.

We are actually working on updating all our tunes to the B01C ROM's but have not seen any issues with the current A01C tunes, as this takes care of the DI problems early owners had in their vehicle.

The B01C is for the new models and I would think it is not as an important update (more driver friendly tune) versus the required A01C update every needs to do for the DI failures that were occurring.

The base package does include the license, cable and map and if requested I can definitely move the tunes over to B01C files. Like I stated they are still be converted.

Cheers,
William Knose

DeliciousTuning 03-15-2014 05:44 PM

Hi Guys and Gals,

I have been basically out of touch for quite some time working on current updates to our tunes across the board and will be releasing them over the coming weeks. We are also working on some new products that we are trying to finish up (FlexFuel Kit - Special Edition, and some other cool pieces). Plus we are in the process of moving in the coming weeks, so be on the lookup for an announcement. As far at the point of this post, we are pleased to release version 8.5 of the Innovate Supercharger tune for the following.

Revision 8.5 applies to the following: (autos and manuals)
- Innovate Supercharger Kit with 75mm, 72.5mm and 70mm on 91,92,93,94, E85 and FlexFuel
- Innovate Supercharger Kit with Intercooler and 75mm, 72.5mm, 70mm on 91,92,93,94, E85 and FlexFuel

All previous customers are offered the free upgrade to the latest 8.5 revision. This has some major improvements in the following areas. (Tunes will be available tomorrow for all to request).

Improvements Include:
1. Dead stop (stop light, etc...) acceleration
2. Light throttle cruising at very low RPM's, deliciously smooth
3. More throttle control for autocross and track goers
4. Improved fuel economy for those long trips and around town
5. Better cold start for all fuels especially E85
6. Smoother power delivery on 50-80% throttle
7. Smoother top end (past 5K to redline)

I have to say this is one of the best tunes I have done so far and with nearly 500+ hours tuning on the Innovate Supercharger kit this should be pretty nice for everyone. I will warn everyone the throttle has changed quite a bit. At first I was not sure if I was happy with it, but I gave it a chance and have really grown to like it A LOT and I am sure you will also. Enjoy...

Cheers,
William Knose

CK_Bladesmith 03-15-2014 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning (Post 1602070)
Hi Guys and Gals,

I have been basically out of touch for quite some time working on current updates to our tunes across the board and will be releasing them over the coming weeks. We are also working on some new products that we are trying to finish up (FlexFuel Kit - Special Edition, and some other cool pieces). Plus we are in the process of moving in the coming weeks, so be on the lookup for an announcement. As far at the point of this post, we are pleased to release version 8.5 of the Innovate Supercharger tune for the following.

Revision 8.5 applies to the following: (autos and manuals)
- Innovate Supercharger Kit with 75mm, 72.5mm and 70mm on 91,92,93,94, E85 and FlexFuel
- Innovate Supercharger Kit with Intercooler and 75mm, 72.5mm, 70mm on 91,92,93,94, E85 and FlexFuel

All previous customers are offered the free upgrade to the latest 8.5 revision. This has some major improvements in the following areas. (Tunes will be available tomorrow for all to request).

Improvements Include:
1. Dead stop (stop light, etc...) acceleration
2. Light throttle cruising at very low RPM's, deliciously smooth
3. More throttle control for autocross and track goers
4. Improved fuel economy for those long trips and around town
5. Better cold start for all fuels especially E85
6. Smoother power delivery on 50-80% throttle
7. Smoother top end (past 5K to redline)

I have to say this is one of the best tunes I have done so far and with nearly 500+ hours tuning on the Innovate Supercharger kit this should be pretty nice for everyone. I will warn everyone the throttle has changed quite a bit. At first I was not sure if I was happy with it, but I gave it a chance and have really grown to like it A LOT and I am sure you will also. Enjoy...

Cheers,
William Knose


Not sure how to request this update on your website but I sent you an email as well as this forum post. I'm ready for this new update!

Lawnik 03-16-2014 05:18 PM

@DeliciousTuning

I am also very eager to try out the latest update and sent an email request.

Luke

kiichiro 03-18-2014 05:48 AM

It was good talking to you. Now that I have my setup stable it's finally time to play musical tunes. You're next, delicious.

protpibe 03-18-2014 11:26 AM

When I try to make a ticket,it says that an admin has to enable it or something? Has anyone else had that issue ?

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CK_Bladesmith 03-18-2014 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by protpibe (Post 1607952)
When I try to make a ticket,it says that an admin has to enable it or something? Has anyone else had that issue ?

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I've got the same issue


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