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DeliciousTuning 02-12-2014 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by yomny (Post 1521282)
Thanks, yes this will be on a completely stock vehicle, i just want to clean the AFR, tune for 93 and bump the idle speed up to try and smooth things up. This tune is done remotely, will i need to send logs for a more customized tune? Thanks


@calispec Mine does this very randomly now after the dealer flashed the ecu, but it still does the same behavior with defrost, A/C on or off(no hunting). To me it seems the idle control motor thingy or whatever its called struggles to stabilize the RPM's when they're so low. Mine idles between 600-650, this is near stalling rpm's. I think by simply raising the idle speed, things will regulate better.
Yes, for e-tuning we review logs and makes adjustments as required.

I am hoping to dial in our final 91 octane map (stock) this weekend and then onto the Innovate Kit Supercharger kit next. hoping to hit 15whp gains over stock, should be doable.

Cheers,
William Knose

Dustin 02-12-2014 02:27 AM
@DeliciousTuning

How would I go about getting a one on one conversation with you? I'm more of a 5-10 minute phone call kind of guy rather than messaging over the course of a day or two but if that works better for you than I can do that as well. I know you're a busy guy and I don't want to take up too much of your time but I have a few questions I'd like your opinion on.

gdrider77 02-12-2014 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Dustin (Post 1522954)
@DeliciousTuning

How would I go about getting a one on one conversation with you? I'm more of a 5-10 minute phone call kind of guy rather than messaging over the course of a day or two but if that works better for you than I can do that as well. I know you're a busy guy and I don't want to take up too much of your time but I have a few questions I'd like your opinion on.
I have the same question.

yomny 02-12-2014 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning (Post 1522910)
Yes, for e-tuning we review logs and makes adjustments as required.

I am hoping to dial in our final 91 octane map (stock) this weekend and then onto the Innovate Kit Supercharger kit next. hoping to hit 15whp gains over stock, should be doable.

Cheers,
William Knose
I have available 93 octane, would you recommend tuning for 93 or 91 given that sometimes gas quality isn't the best and i dont want any issues with knock or any detrimental condition on my daily driver. Thanks

Zach3794 02-12-2014 12:59 PM
Yomny, if you can consistently get 93, totally go for it. Car was designed for 93 octane if I remember what the inside of the gas flap says correctly :)

Zach3794 02-12-2014 01:35 PM
To add to that, you should not only get more power but better fuel economy on 93 octane. When testing maps specifically designed for lower octanes, it was noted that power and fuel economy both suffered. (Referring to 87 and 89 octane specific maps)

FR-S Matt 02-14-2014 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning (Post 1520643)
Hi, would this in regards to the completely stock tune on the vehicle, that it drops to 500 RPM's? Yes even my car does that and I have not looked into that much as of yet, but I will. I will need to look at this a little more closely to see exactly what is causing it and take a look at it.

All pricing is on our website.

But it is something I will look at a little more as it is a common problem in every vehicle.

Cheers,
William Knose
From what I've seen, the idle is just slightly bumped up in rpm to keep it from dipping. The flash at the dealer does the same thing. My car did the same thing for a while, but after break in, I didn't see it. When I got a tune, they stated the idle dip issue was "addressed".

DeliciousTuning 02-14-2014 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 1528456)
From what I've seen, the idle is just slightly bumped up in rpm to keep it from dipping. The flash at the dealer does the same thing. My car did the same thing for a while, but after break in, I didn't see it. When I got a tune, they stated the idle dip issue was "addressed".
The flash upgrade from the dealer was performed when? Just would like to know as we purchased our development car near the end of 2013. But we still have the dip, every so often.

Cheers,
William Knose

anajri 02-14-2014 02:57 PM
I had a similar problem and then all of the sudden the car would not idle at all.

checking after checking found that under the engine cover are some vacuum hose check them becasue ever sine i fix that i have had no idle issues anymore.

even with Williams tune
regards
ALfredo

carlossanchez89 02-14-2014 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by anajri (Post 1529339)
I had a similar problem and then all of the sudden the car would not idle at all.

checking after checking found that under the engine cover are some vacuum hose check them becasue ever sine i fix that i have had no idle issues anymore.

even with Williams tune
regards
ALfredo
I'm having a similar problem but i have no vaccum issue. All hoses are plugged in.

FR-S Matt 02-14-2014 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning (Post 1529317)
The flash upgrade from the dealer was performed when? Just would like to know as we purchased our development car near the end of 2013. But we still have the dip, every so often.

Cheers,
William Knose
I would have to look at the TSB's again. I want to say it was late last year, around August/September.

Found it in the TSB thread:http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21868

Looks like it was November.

yomny 02-14-2014 06:55 PM
The tsb was released December 2013. I just had it done. The only way they would do it is if the cars "problem" could be replicated. Fortunately my rpms dipped and they noticed.

carlossanchez89 02-16-2014 12:51 PM
Bill I emailed you my logs.

Car idle is unsettling in the 91 map. Daily driver here!

Please get back to me!

yomny 02-17-2014 01:06 PM
@DeliciousTuning - Just out of curiosity does your tune correct the infamous "tip-in" knock seen around youtube? I recall having this back in 2012 when ecutek and visconti were the only thing around and no one had a clue. It has been said that some cars have this even with oem tunes(the knock sound when sharply slapping the gas pedal).

Zach3794 02-17-2014 01:12 PM
While I'm sure that can be fixed, why are you slapping the gas pedal? Roll onto it..slamming the pedal is never a good idea imo


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yomny 02-17-2014 03:02 PM
It's just a figure of speech to try and describe getting on the pedal hard. When you're shifting quick most people just stomp the gas which is what I refer to by "slap" the gas pedal. This isn't happening to me but I see around the web that the tip in knock is popular. The description is a means to an end not the problem here so lets direct back to the point.

jamesm 02-17-2014 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by yomny (Post 1535746)
It's just a figure of speech to try and describe getting on the pedal hard. When you're shifting quick most people just stomp the gas which is what I refer to by "slap" the gas pedal. This isn't happening to me but I see around the web that the tip in knock is popular. The description is a means to an end not the problem here so lets direct back to the point.
It can be eliminated with a custom map (timing comp, rpm or load vs throttle delta). I usually don't mess with it though since it's not much of an issue. Save the custom maps for more useful projects ;).

yomny 02-17-2014 06:01 PM
I remember having this with my first visconti map back in 2012. I thought it was just me back in the days but i see a few people are having this issue years later. Thanks @jamesm

Pandle 02-18-2014 10:21 PM
So I'm still waiting on my tune. I've sent the email twice and haven't had a single response... Anyone else have this issue? Does it take a week to get your tune?

protpibe 02-18-2014 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pandle (Post 1539701)
So I'm still waiting on my tune. I've sent the email twice and haven't had a single response... Anyone else have this issue? Does it take a week to get your tune?

It took a week and a bit to get mine, so I wouldn't worry.

Zach3794 02-18-2014 11:54 PM
I wouldn't worry at all, Bill isn't a fly by night tuner. He's been in the business over 13 years and has a stellar reputation. I would just try to be patient and understand that he is one man with hundreds of customers. Given that understanding, I'm sure he could just whip up a file and send it off immediately, but his reputation is for excellence, and excellence takes time :) Patience is a virtue, friend. You'll get your tune and it'll rock your world!


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DeliciousTuning 02-19-2014 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Pandle (Post 1539701)
So I'm still waiting on my tune. I've sent the email twice and haven't had a single response... Anyone else have this issue? Does it take a week to get your tune?
Hi,

Sorry about that, I try my best to get the tunes out quickly but over looked your emails. I do apologize and have sent out your map for your vehicle. Being it was over two weeks to get to you I have partially refunded your purchase.

Once again sorry for the delay.

Cheers,
William Knose

DeliciousTuning 02-19-2014 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by yomny (Post 1535372)
@DeliciousTuning - Just out of curiosity does your tune correct the infamous "tip-in" knock seen around youtube? I recall having this back in 2012 when ecutek and visconti were the only thing around and no one had a clue. It has been said that some cars have this even with oem tunes(the knock sound when sharply slapping the gas pedal).
All my tunes correct the "tip-in" knock on forced induction and non forced induction vehicles. Using some custom maps in EcuTeK I we were able to completely move this problem from the vehicle.

We first noticed this problem in early tuning on the twin-screw supercharger we were working on for Innovate. Once we got that sorted we started applying those techniques to all of our tunes. So I would say about 99% of all our tunes on the market have our fix for "tip-in" knock in the tune.

Cheers,
William Knose

qtwre 02-19-2014 09:55 AM
Apologies if this has been answered, but can you make e-tunes for boosted vehicles while using the stock o2 sensor? I was under the impression that it isn't accurate in the richer areas.

Now that Ecutek has added the ability to connect a wideband to the secondary o2 lead, would it be preferable for a customer to set that up for your e-tunes or is that unnecessary?

BatStig 02-19-2014 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning (Post 1540358)
All my tunes correct the "tip-in" knock on forced induction and non forced induction vehicles. Using some custom maps in EcuTeK I we were able to completely move this problem from the vehicle.

We first noticed this problem in early tuning on the twin-screw supercharger we were working on for Innovate. Once we got that sorted we started applying those techniques to all of our tunes. So I would say about 99% of all our tunes on the market have our fix for "tip-in" knock in the tune.

Cheers,
William Knose
Why are you guys so far away?

*LongFella 02-20-2014 12:58 PM
PM Sent :)

CSG Mike 02-20-2014 01:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning (Post 1540358)
All my tunes correct the "tip-in" knock on forced induction and non forced induction vehicles. Using some custom maps in EcuTeK I we were able to completely move this problem from the vehicle.

We first noticed this problem in early tuning on the twin-screw supercharger we were working on for Innovate. Once we got that sorted we started applying those techniques to all of our tunes. So I would say about 99% of all our tunes on the market have our fix for "tip-in" knock in the tune.

Cheers,
William Knose
Is this something you did, or just something that was implemented by various Ecutek updates over the past few years?

Brick 02-20-2014 03:58 PM
@DeliciousTuning can you post the part number for the MAP sensor that you prefer?

DeliciousTuning 02-21-2014 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CSG Mike (Post 1544070)
Is this something you did, or just something that was implemented by various Ecutek updates over the past few years?
This is something we came up with, within EcuTeK Custom Mapping. We were having a hard time of not getting "tip-in" knock on the Innovate kit, being it was hitting boost as low as 2K and as much as 3 PSI almost instantly. Playing around with all the standard features in the OEM map, made it better but not to the level we wanted. So we worked on something over a period of a month or so and developed some custom tables that are implemented in every tune we offer.

It definitely curbs the "tip-in" knock a lot, even on NA vehicles. Was definitely worth the time, especially for our track customers.

Cheers,
William Knose

DeliciousTuning 02-21-2014 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Brick (Post 1544662)
@DeliciousTuning can you post the part number for the MAP sensor that you prefer?
We will be offering them on our website shortly. The price will be about $75 shipped.

Cheers,
William Knose

sw20kosh 02-21-2014 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning (Post 1547212)
We will be offering them on our website shortly. The price will be about $75 shipped.

Cheers,
William Knose
Is this the honda map sensor you had me try out with my innovate kit? It kept giving me code of "low circuit voltage" or something, after driving for a few days. I eventually took it off. Do you think it was damaged?

DeliciousTuning 02-21-2014 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sw20kosh (Post 1548402)
Is this the honda map sensor you had me try out with my innovate kit? It kept giving me code of "low circuit voltage" or something, after driving for a few days. I eventually took it off. Do you think it was damaged?
I think that one had an issue or something else was going on. I only saw this on two cars, and the second car was because it had a leak on the stock map sensor.

Deadspool 02-21-2014 09:13 PM
I keep getting a wheel speed sensor CEL when im goofing off, i forgot the code, but i will go pull it tomorrow and post it!

I love this tune.

Area86 02-22-2014 08:16 PM
@DeliciousTuning any update on the Innovate map that can run both 70mm and 75mm pulleys??

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DeliciousTuning 02-24-2014 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Area86 (Post 1550253)
@DeliciousTuning any update on the Innovate map that can run both 70mm and 75mm pulleys??

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Not quite done yet. I have been refining the 75mm pulley tune with and with out the intercooler on 91,92,93, 94 and E85 tunes now.

Also the 91,92,93 and 94 octane, Kraftwerks tunes have been dramatically updated and the STG1 Vortech tune has been added into the mix. The E85 tune for the Kraftwerks is still in development but very close to complete. So far it is about a 50hp increase over the 91 octane tune.

All the tunes are just about done, and after I have completed those updates I will get working on the 70mm update that works with these tunes, so you can switch between pulleys with no issues.

Cheers,
William Knose

pmccut 02-25-2014 04:24 AM
For the FullBlown kit you mention a 10 psi MAP sensor is required. Does that limit the tuning to 10/11psi? What are the options for running more boost?

pmccut 02-26-2014 02:52 PM
@DeliciousTuning can you confirm?

sw20kosh 02-26-2014 05:16 PM
Are there any dyno graphs of DeliciousTuning's Fullblown turbo maps? Does it make more power than the supercharger maps?

Zach3794 02-26-2014 05:17 PM
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Attachment 68502

Oh look, 276whp, supercharged, and 33mpg highway? Now that's delicious ;)


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pmccut 02-26-2014 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sw20kosh (Post 1559303)
Are there any dyno graphs of DeliciousTuning's Fullblown turbo maps? Does it make more power than the supercharger maps?
They have a few on this thread http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37736
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Originally Posted by Infamous Performance (Post 1284220)
I'm worried that I'll be limited to 11psi of boost and will make less power than I am now (running 9:1 c/r), albeit hopefully with better low speed drivability.


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