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OmarGC 01-12-2014 01:01 AM

Ygpm

DeliciousTuning 01-12-2014 11:55 PM

Responded to PM's. Sorry for my delay, I have been hard at work on developing tuning solutions for the new Mercedes CLA 250 and CLA AMG. But my main focus is still the 86 crowd, especially forced induction and E85.

Also I have some new updates coming out for the folllowing very soon.

1. Innovate Kit for 75, 72.5, 70 and 69mm pulleys with intecoolers, on 91 and 93 octane.
2. Full blown turbo kits, switchable boost maps and much improved tunes.
3. AVO turbo kit, switchable boost maps and improved power and response.
4. NA on E85, what if you could hit 200whp on E85 ONLY... Think it is possible.... ;)

Cheers,
William Knose

sandman126 01-13-2014 01:16 AM

delicioustuning,
How do you feel about remote tuning a JDL turbo setup? Not exactly a lot of tuning options in my area (minot, ND) :suicide:

DeliciousTuning 01-13-2014 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman126 (Post 1449094)
delicioustuning,
How do you feel about remote tuning a JDL turbo setup? Not exactly a lot of tuning options in my area (minot, ND) :suicide:

MAF system or a Speed Density setup? Need to know a little more about the kit. From there I can determine what can be offered and also the boost levels/power levels you are looking for.

Cheers,
William Knose

sandman126 01-13-2014 01:43 AM

maf system I'm pretty sure, not sure of the difference. Precision 5130 turbo, deatchwerks 900cc injectors and 265 fuel pump, 3" turbo back. Hoping for 300-350whp on 91oct. Then eventually flex fuel making around 450whp. Any other info needed than this?

DeliciousTuning 01-19-2014 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman126 (Post 1449148)
maf system I'm pretty sure, not sure of the difference. Precision 5130 turbo, deatchwerks 900cc injectors and 265 fuel pump, 3" turbo back. Hoping for 300-350whp on 91oct. Then eventually flex fuel making around 450whp. Any other info needed than this?

Now that I have dialed in Speed Density with a new 10 PSI MAP sensor I feel very confident tuning any turbo kits via speed density now. As it should make quick work of the tuning. So it should not be a problem.

Next will be working on a larger MAP sensor. Trying to determine the ideal larger MAP sensor. In the mean time here is what to expect from the current 10 PSI MAP sensor on Speed Density.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=595

Cheers,
William Knose

Dustin 01-19-2014 10:32 PM

When would you suggest using a MAP sensor over MAF? I know there has been debate over this before but I'm not sure which I should use given my goals. I ask you because right now you're the front runner on who I'll be purchasing my tune from.

Oh and my goals:
Innovate Stg2 w/ 72.5mm pulley - waiting on tax refund
nameless header - purchased, waiting on delivery
3" headerback exhaust - have OP/DP, need to order the rest
Tuned on 93

looking to get minimum 250whp
anything over that is icing on the cake.

DeliciousTuning 01-19-2014 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dustin (Post 1463788)
When would you suggest using a MAP sensor over MAF? I know there has been debate over this before but I'm not sure which I should use given my goals. I ask you because right now you're the front runner on who I'll be purchasing my tune from.

Oh and my goals:
Innovate Stg2 w/ 72.5mm pulley - waiting on tax refund
nameless header - purchased, waiting on delivery
3" headerback exhaust - have OP/DP, need to order the rest
Tuned on 93

looking to get minimum 250whp
anything over that is icing on the cake.

MAF is a great and if you can use as long as it is placed prior to the forced induction system as it was designed, then it will work well. Though a lot of turbo kits or supercharger kits do not seem to take this into consideration and use it as a blow-through, my least favorite design.

When you are put into this situation, speed density is a much better way to go. Also with MAF, you can scale the MAF up to a 3 inch intake, not a problem, though this will still limit you on how much power you can make.

With the Innovate Kit you are fine on the stock MAF sensor all the way through 300+ whp on E85. So not an issue.

Cheers,
William Knose

Dezoris 01-21-2014 11:15 PM

Vortech support planned, or is this one those you need to do onsite?

DeliciousTuning 01-22-2014 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 1469594)
Vortech support planned, or is this one those you need to do onsite?

Need to do. But it is getting finished up in about 1-2 months. I am finishing up some other supercharger tunes and then will be finalizing that one.

Cheers,
William Knose

Dezoris 01-22-2014 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning (Post 1469769)
Need to do. But it is getting finished up in about 1-2 months. I am finishing up some other supercharger tunes and then will be finalizing that one.

Cheers,
William Knose

I was checking to see how much it would cost to ship car out to you and drive back, or to drive out there for tuning and there is just no good way to do it without costing either a few grand in shipping or a weeks worth of driving.

Want a tune as perfect as possible with reliability for street (100F or 10F), and track consistency lap over lap. Power/output numbers are a last priority.

DeliciousTuning 01-22-2014 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 1469896)
I was checking to see how much it would cost to ship car out to you and drive back, or to drive out there for tuning and there is just no good way to do it without costing either a few grand in shipping or a weeks worth of driving.

Want a tune as perfect as possible with reliability for street (100F or 10F), and track consistency lap over lap. Power/output numbers are a last priority.

Well were are you located? Think you can get a few people together for tuning? Maybe we can fly out there and dial it in?

evo4g63 01-22-2014 02:12 AM

@DeliciousTuning on your Innovate tune what do you rec for fuel? I see a lot of people being tuned on the stock injectors and a DW65 fuel pump only. Even with your e85 tunes for this specific FI kit. I ask because all the other tuners on the board require bigger port injectors for e85. Have you found something in Your tuning this kit that others have not using ecutek? Also is a 3bar map sensor rec or is the factory sensor okay?

jflogerzi 01-22-2014 02:13 AM

So are the tunes that you have in the thread, are they one tune fits all? Or do we still need dyno tuning?

Dezoris 01-22-2014 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning (Post 1470034)
Well were are you located? Think you can get a few people together for tuning? Maybe we can fly out there and dial it in?


Northern Illinois, 45 minutes outside Chicago. It's possible to get maybe 3-4 guys together maybe more, but I would have to do some research on it.

When you get a chance maybe throw together some specifics of what you need including ballpark of costs for you to do this so I can find out if it makes sense.

I have a local guy with a dyno who is good about renting out time as well.

Brick 01-22-2014 03:50 PM

I have a FA20 club kit that I will be installing when I have the time, there is no real reason that I couldn't use the FBM tune correct? Also I am going to be welding in a recirc line for the wastegate instead of open dump. Is the recirc line required to be before or after the 02 sensor or does it matter for the tune? @DeliciousTuning
Thanks

Dustin 01-25-2014 09:48 PM

@DeliciousTuning

Sent you a PM regarding tuning.

DeliciousTuning 01-26-2014 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evo4g63 (Post 1470075)
@DeliciousTuning on your Innovate tune what do you rec for fuel? I see a lot of people being tuned on the stock injectors and a DW65 fuel pump only. Even with your e85 tunes for this specific FI kit. I ask because all the other tuners on the board require bigger port injectors for e85. Have you found something in Your tuning this kit that others have not using ecutek? Also is a 3bar map sensor rec or is the factory sensor okay?

Stock injectors are fine and either the stock pump or DW65 are fine. I actually do not recommend larger injectors for my tunes as I have been setting my maps up a little differently and it works rather well without larger injectors. This saves you, without needing to spend extra money on injectors that are not needed. Also we do not use any larger map sensors, once again not needed as the MAF sensor will do all the hard work for tuning.

If you want to know boost, purchase a boost gauge but you can tell a lot from the MAF sensor values.

Cheers,
William Knose

DeliciousTuning 01-26-2014 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jflogerzi (Post 1470078)
So are the tunes that you have in the thread, are they one tune fits all? Or do we still need dyno tuning?

Our tunes have been well optimized for most all configurations as specified and will fit most applications. The question may be, can they be optimized further and I would say yes, but I do not think you will see much of a gain over what is being offered.

The only things that might need some tweaking are with respect to intakes that change the MAF scaling (larger diameter, etc...) or specific headers that could use some cam adjustments. But these are minor tweaks which can be accommodated for when purchasing our tunes at not additional charge.

As always we are continuously updating our maps, updates come free of charge for the particular tuning applications you have ordered.

Cheers,
William Knose

DeliciousTuning 01-26-2014 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brick (Post 1471385)
I have a FA20 club kit that I will be installing when I have the time, there is no real reason that I couldn't use the FBM tune correct? Also I am going to be welding in a recirc line for the wastegate instead of open dump. Is the recirc line required to be before or after the 02 sensor or does it matter for the tune? @DeliciousTuning
Thanks

No, this tune will more than likely work very well for your application being they are Speed Density based. We would just recommend running the same injectors and fuel pump as in our tune.

The recirc can be placed before or after as it should not have much of an affect. Whatever works easier for you.

Cheers,
William Knose

DeliciousTuning 01-26-2014 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezoris (Post 1470080)
Northern Illinois, 45 minutes outside Chicago. It's possible to get maybe 3-4 guys together maybe more, but I would have to do some research on it.

When you get a chance maybe throw together some specifics of what you need including ballpark of costs for you to do this so I can find out if it makes sense.

I have a local guy with a dyno who is good about renting out time as well.

I will work on getting this over to you. I believe if we could get 4 people together we could dial something in.

Also responded to all pm's.

Cheers,
William Knose

Deadspool 02-06-2014 04:50 PM

Whats the word on the larger map sensor? I am excite.

jamesm 02-06-2014 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning (Post 1463811)
MAF is a great and if you can use as long as it is placed prior to the forced induction system as it was designed, then it will work well. Though a lot of turbo kits or supercharger kits do not seem to take this into consideration and use it as a blow-through, my least favorite design.

When you are put into this situation, speed density is a much better way to go. Also with MAF, you can scale the MAF up to a 3 inch intake, not a problem, though this will still limit you on how much power you can make.

With the Innovate Kit you are fine on the stock MAF sensor all the way through 300+ whp on E85. So not an issue.

Cheers,
William Knose

what are you using for IAT on the sd tunes if not a blow-through maf's internal sensor?

KONVERTER 02-06-2014 11:21 PM

Love my Delicious Tune w/ my PPE headers! THANKS AGAIN!!!

CK_Bladesmith 02-07-2014 12:18 AM

Anyone heard from Delicious Tuning lately? I sent a couple of emails to Bill and haven't heard back from him in a while..

DeliciousTuning 02-07-2014 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CK_Bladesmith (Post 1510649)
Anyone heard from Delicious Tuning lately? I sent a couple of emails to Bill and haven't heard back from him in a while..

Going through PM's and emails today. Sorry for the delay guys, I do a LOT of development work through the week. Makes my Brian hurt.

Cheers,
William Knose

ProTekk 02-07-2014 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning (Post 1512309)
Going through PM's and emails today. Sorry for the delay guys, I do a LOT of development work through the week. Makes my Brian hurt.

Cheers,
William Knose

Hope you can process my ECUTek license today! :D

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DeliciousTuning 02-07-2014 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadspool (Post 1509495)
Whats the word on the larger map sensor? I am excite.

Had the 11 PSI map sensor, but had a 3 bar but found it does not quite work as expected. So back to looking again.

DeliciousTuning 02-07-2014 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProTekk (Post 1512312)
Hope you can process my ECUTek license today! :D

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Will do.

ProTekk 02-07-2014 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning (Post 1512320)
Will do.

Woo! :beer:

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DeliciousTuning 02-07-2014 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesm (Post 1509731)
what are you using for IAT on the sd tunes if not a blow-through maf's internal sensor?

Very good question. I am still using the MAF sensors IAT for measuring the charge temps.

jamesm 02-07-2014 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning (Post 1512331)
Very good question. I am still using the MAF sensors IAT for measuring the charge temps.

This is pertaining to n/a cars only then i presume? or you're using a MAP-based compensation to account for the difference in IAT and CAT?

Zach3794 02-07-2014 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning (Post 1512309)
Going through PM's and emails today. Sorry for the delay guys, I do a LOT of development work through the week. Makes my Brian hurt.

Cheers,
William Knose

Poor Brian.

maziar 02-08-2014 08:38 AM

@DeliciousTuning if i want to buy stage 2 reflash from u can you customize stage 2 ecu tuning for 89 octane fuel ?


sorry for my bad english

DeliciousTuning 02-09-2014 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maziar (Post 1513537)
@DeliciousTuning if i want to buy stage 2 reflash from u can you customize stage 2 ecu tuning for 89 octane fuel ?


sorry for my bad english

I have actually been working on a couple setups for 89 and 87 octane. Definitely possible, but you definitely will lose some power and not really sure of the benefits as I am see a lose in MPG also from it. Just an FYI.

Cheers,
William Knose

yomny 02-10-2014 02:55 PM

@DeliciousTuning Interested in the tune. I have a little concern with the idle, it seems drop at times to about 500 rpms then jump back up. I wanted to know if this little issue could be addressed along with the stg 1 93oct tune. Can you PM me with a price for everything. Thanks

DeliciousTuning 02-11-2014 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yomny (Post 1518298)
@DeliciousTuning Interested in the tune. I have a little concern with the idle, it seems drop at times to about 500 rpms then jump back up. I wanted to know if this little issue could be addressed along with the stg 1 93oct tune. Can you PM me with a price for everything. Thanks

Hi, would this in regards to the completely stock tune on the vehicle, that it drops to 500 RPM's? Yes even my car does that and I have not looked into that much as of yet, but I will. I will need to look at this a little more closely to see exactly what is causing it and take a look at it.

All pricing is on our website.

But it is something I will look at a little more as it is a common problem in every vehicle.

Cheers,
William Knose

calispec 02-11-2014 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yomny (Post 1518298)
@DeliciousTuning Interested in the tune. I have a little concern with the idle, it seems drop at times to about 500 rpms then jump back up. I wanted to know if this little issue could be addressed along with the stg 1 93oct tune. Can you PM me with a price for everything. Thanks

@DeliciousTuning
I don't mean to point out the obvious but try turning the AC off.. That solved it on mine. It will also hunt when using defrost with AC off.. I have a feeling the compressor still engages for defrost.

Zach3794 02-11-2014 02:08 PM

@calispec , the cars can hunt with a/c on or off. It is definitely accentuated when a/c or the defroster is engaged :)


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yomny 02-11-2014 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeliciousTuning (Post 1520643)
Hi, would this in regards to the completely stock tune on the vehicle, that it drops to 500 RPM's? Yes even my car does that and I have not looked into that much as of yet, but I will. I will need to look at this a little more closely to see exactly what is causing it and take a look at it.

All pricing is on our website.

But it is something I will look at a little more as it is a common problem in every vehicle.

Cheers,
William Knose

Thanks, yes this will be on a completely stock vehicle, i just want to clean the AFR, tune for 93 and bump the idle speed up to try and smooth things up. This tune is done remotely, will i need to send logs for a more customized tune? Thanks


@calispec Mine does this very randomly now after the dealer flashed the ecu, but it still does the same behavior with defrost, A/C on or off(no hunting). To me it seems the idle control motor thingy or whatever its called struggles to stabilize the RPM's when they're so low. Mine idles between 600-650, this is near stalling rpm's. I think by simply raising the idle speed, things will regulate better.


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