Dealer Markup??
 

Although history says anytime a new, desired car comes to market, it gets marked up, one major thing the toyobaru will have going for it, though, is that it is supposed to be an entry level car, so Toyota or Subaru would be nuts to let dealers screw with one of the very components of this car's appeal.

Time will tell, but even if markups occur, the solution is always simple:
a) wait it out or
b) search around for a good deal. There are too many dealers who will be selling this car for competition not to keep them somewhat honest.

Also, being an entry-level Japanese car, this will likely be built in large numbers. I doubt they'll trickle in if it does get built. They'll want to make money by selling a lot of them, not jacking the price up on a handful.
If the car market still hasn't recovered, Toyota should have plenty of spare production capacity to start turning these out in BIG numbers.
I know the MINI had a huge wait list, but part of the problem there was the huge amount of customization that could go into any car. I doubt Toyota / Subaru will go that route, since they've never really done anything like that before.

I guess you guys do things a bit differently in the US, but down here the manufacturers set the maximum RRP, the only way the dealer is allowed to move is down :)

It depends on how big of a following the car has. Generally the more fan boys, the higher the mark up.

Dunno, Toyota/Scion put the hammer down when the released the original Scion lineup, and if ever there was a case for price gouging, it was when the tC was released. When I bought mine, there were 500+ cars on the lot, and exactly 2 tCs. I got it out the door with no markup, and went on my way.

If it's a Toyota it might be slightly different, but they seem to have a pretty good handle on keeping their dealers in line (unlike GM).

Really just depends on the economy. There is always mark up though. Especially on a pre order. Usually you can negotiate with them to avoid paying the mark up but it will be there.

I had the same experience when I bought my tC back in 2005. The dealer was trying to sell used 05's for more than MSRP. Thankfully, Scion had the no hassel pricing policy so I ended up ordering an 06 and waiting for it to be delivered. As far I know, the FT will be a Toyo thus not covered under the fixed pricing so we could see markups...I hope not.

Yeap, so we gotta keep dealers from accessing this forum so they don't know the fanaticism there will be for this car :D

But yea if there's a ton of press coverage right before the car launches and especially if they start with slow production of the car, dealers will price gouge (that's just their nature).

Look at the Camaro for example, that car was so hyped up and so many people waiting and pre-ordering and then production on the car started slow, there were dealers marking up $5000 over MSRP for the car. :confused0068:

Hope that doesn't happen with this car.

Within the first year or two of production, this car will not be built in large numbers. The first year is a testing ground, to see how well adapted a new model will be, since it is something completely new. They will not set up multiple production lines for a new model like this, it's too risky, especially with the auto market taking a financial hit like everyone else.

When it comes to dealer pricing, even if they don't jack up the price of the car itself, they will pre-install $2500 worth of extra(junk) and tell you "this is the last one we have"

Reading this thread make me wanna beat some dealers. :mad0259:

Anyways like someone say, if that happens then I'll just wait til mark up goes down.

I think I'll buy it anyway. It's just how life is I suppose. :mad0260:

Mark-ups may be the reason why it may take me while to buy the car

manufacturers have very little control over their dealers, unless you're talking about Scion & the (now dying) Saturn. i think there will certainly be a "market adjustment" from the stealerships initially, but how much can they mark up before driving the buyer to a 370Z or somewhere else? obviously market will react to demand the same way the new Camaro has been every chevy stealer's wet dream, but GM has also ramped up production of the Camaro and i'm sure for those of us who are patient, it'll eventually sell at MSRP or less. just remember that the wallet is in YOUR pocket.