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Dillano609 04-19-2012 06:05 PM

Anyone else cave in to another car?
 
So my original intention was to buy the FR-S, but I figured I'd look at some cars at a local dealership because I thought 25k was a little steep for what you get. I ended up finding a 2004 BMW 330Ci and got it for 10.5K in prestine condition and fully loaded with a 6-speed manual tranny. I couldn't say no, anyone else have similar stories?

denkigrve 04-19-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dillano609 (Post 187343)
So my original intention was to buy the FR-S, but I figured I'd look at some cars at a local dealership because I thought 25k was a little steep for what you get. I ended up finding a 2004 BMW 330Ci and got it for 10.5K in prestine condition and fully loaded with a 6-speed manual tranny. I couldn't say no, anyone else have similar stories?

I'm almost in the same boat. I'm debating walking away at this point. The constant Subaru vs Toyota BS on these forums makes me not want to be a part of this community any longer.

Enjoy your BMW. It should be a fun car.

bneale 04-19-2012 06:37 PM

No way! My Audi A4 has been in need of replacement for a while now but I've been waiting and saving my money since March of 2011. We're so close to the cars finally being here, its stupid for me to waste all that time waiting just to buy something else.

Plus, I just found out my car might actually be sitting in a holding pen in Richmond waiting for me to pick it up!!!

Color me excited! :happyanim:

bneale

RRnold 04-19-2012 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dillano609 (Post 187343)
So my original intention was to buy the FR-S, but I figured I'd look at some cars at a local dealership because I thought 25k was a little steep for what you get. I ended up finding a 2004 BMW 330Ci and got it for 10.5K in prestine condition and fully loaded with a 6-speed manual tranny. I couldn't say no, anyone else have similar stories?

Congrats on the car.

I think the FR-S is moderately priced and I hope many more prospects will have have the same mentality as you and move on to another car. We want to reduce the demand shift in any way shape or form. :thumbsup:

Kimsey47 04-19-2012 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by denkigrve (Post 187353)
I'm almost in the same boat. I'm debating walking away at this point. The constant Subaru vs Toyota BS on these forums makes me not want to be a part of this community any longer.

Enjoy your BMW. It should be a fun car.

Ah its the same car in the end so I wouldn't let it get to you! No different than an Eagle Talon owner saying the Eclipse sucked and vice versa. Same car, little different body... (Unless some people would argue that the turbo variants with the Mitsubishi engines were better than the Chrysler engines... Which I'd agree however that is way..... :offtopic:)

Enjoy the beemer! What will be interesting is if you stay a community member, drive the FR-S and then come back to the FR-S/BRZ side! :burnrubber:

denkigrve 04-19-2012 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimsey47 (Post 187368)
Ah its the same car in the end so I wouldn't let it get to you! No different than an Eagle Talon owner saying the Eclipse sucked and vice versa. Same car, little different body... (Unless some people would argue that the turbo variants with the Mitsubishi engines were better than the Chrysler engines... Which I'd agree however that is way..... :offtopic:)

Enjoy the beemer! What will be interesting is if you stay a community member, drive the FR-S and then come back to the FR-S/BRZ side! :burnrubber:

I'm not buying the BMW. :P The OP is. I'm still in line for my FRS. I had an AE86 for so long. Selling it broke my heart. It was like trying to sell my own leg. So I'm stoked for this car. I'm just tired of the constant "I have to be better than you" stuff in these forums. The only other thing that will get me is if I can't get my FRS in MT/White. I'll maybe settle for silver, but I'm holding out for white.

Kimsey47 04-19-2012 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by denkigrve (Post 187376)
I'm not buying the BMW. :P The OP is. I'm still in line for my FRS. I had an AE86 for so long. Selling it broke my heart. It was like trying to sell my own leg. So I'm stoked for this car. I'm just tired of the constant "I have to be better than you" stuff in these forums. The only other thing that will get me is if I can't get my FRS in MT/White. I'll maybe settle for silver, but I'm holding out for white.

Understand bro, I didn't have an 86 but I truly loved my first car. I think this is the only car in the world that can bring back that "first car" excitement and feeling when driving it. I'm holding out till I'm driving my BRZ! Then I'm going to drive it till it dies!:happyanim:

Sasquachulator 04-19-2012 07:32 PM

not i.
I tend to keep my cars for as long as possible.

Its just time to get a little sportier :)
Plus following this car for so long....

Ikaros 04-19-2012 07:43 PM

I've been following the production of this car since 2009, and still haven't caved into buying another car. You weren't that interested in the first place.

Calum 04-19-2012 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by denkigrve (Post 187353)
The constant Subaru vs Toyota BS on these forums makes me not want to be a part of this community

Agreed, I keep looking for another forum with decent traffic but I haven't found any. I don't even understand why there are separate forums for the Subaru and Toyota versions. Not to mention all the crap about Toyota vs. Scion.


OP, If there was something else out there that was as purpose built, had a hard top, four seats and didn't cost Porsche money, I would seriously consider it. I just haven't found it yet.

armythug 04-19-2012 08:43 PM

Gratz on the car OP. I have been looking at the 08-09 (skyline 370 gt/infinity G37). It's pretty nice with semi luxurious interior. Seats look amazing.same engine that's in the 370Z. I could probably get one in Australia for around 35k. But at this time I'm going to be patient and test drive the 86 before I do anything.

Allch Chcar 04-19-2012 08:45 PM

I bought a POS beater. So I'm not in a hurry to buy a car now. But the sooner I get a decent car the happier I'll be.

Quote:

Originally Posted by denkigrve (Post 187353)
I'm almost in the same boat. I'm debating walking away at this point. The constant Subaru vs Toyota BS on these forums makes me not want to be a part of this community any longer.

Enjoy your BMW. It should be a fun car.

The badge bickering can get annoying but we've got some pretty cool people from both communities. Several of the big gurus from NASIOC(Subaru forum) come over here and share technical info that relates to the engine or suspension. And on the Toyota side, well, there's guff?

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Originally Posted by Calum (Post 187415)
Agreed, I keep looking for another forum with decent traffic but I haven't found any. I don't even understand why there are separate forums for the Subaru and Toyota versions. Not to mention all the crap about Toyota vs. Scion.

Honestly, I think a lot of us are looking for that. The two sub-forums are kind of an appeasement for the two different communities(Toyota/Subaru). The different subforums mean if you don't like the people who dominate a certain subforum you can switch to another. I prefer OT myself but I visit and cause trouble on the two major subforums too.

It's not a perfect place but FT86club big enough to be interesting. Even the big news outlets can't match our rumor mill. :thumbsup: Plus this is still the best place to find good info on the Twins.

Calum 04-19-2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Allch Chcar (Post 187441)
Honestly, I think a lot of us are looking for that. The two sub-forums are kind of an appeasement for the two different communities(Toyota/Subaru). The different subforums mean if you don't like the people who dominate a certain subforum you can switch to another. I prefer OT myself but I visit and cause trouble on the two major subforums too.

It's not a perfect place but FT86club big enough to be interesting. Even the big news outlets can't match our rumor mill. :thumbsup: Plus this is still the best place to find good info on the Twins.

100% agree

Dillano609 04-19-2012 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by armythug (Post 187438)
Gratz on the car OP. I have been looking at the 08-09 (skyline 370 gt/infinity G37). It's pretty nice with semi luxurious interior. Seats look amazing.same engine that's in the 370Z. I could probably get one in Australia for around 35k. But at this time I'm going to be patient and test drive the 86 before I do anything.

Haha, thanks. Many people have offered their congratulatory statements and I take them with great humility. Those are pretty decent cars, I recently drove a G35 (Not exactly the same), but the higher end stuff by Nissan is quite impressive.

Whoever said I wasn't that interested in the first place, ugh, I've been following this car for over a year... No matter, still got a quality car and I'll be lurking in here every now and then just to see whats up :) Hopefully the sibling rivalry between Scion and Toyota will cease and no more brand favoritism to annoying levels between Toyota and Subaru debated once the car comes out. Kinda agree, kills things on here.

csaba 04-19-2012 09:18 PM

what BS?

Draco-REX 04-19-2012 09:50 PM

I'm not cancelling my BRZ, but I have to say, I've seen some really clean late 80s 911s for sale near by...

ichitaka05 04-19-2012 10:00 PM

To the first post, congrat on BMW.

As for me, today I totally changed my thought... Seriously, it's an amazing car. $25k? Hell, not a problem! All the future stuff waiting for this car, it's hella cheap!

Guff 04-19-2012 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar (Post 187441)
I bought a POS beater. So I'm not in a hurry to buy a car now. But the sooner I get a decent car the happier I'll be.



The badge bickering can get annoying but we've got some pretty cool people from both communities. Several of the big gurus from NASIOC(Subaru forum) come over here and share technical info that relates to the engine or suspension. And on the Toyota side, well, there's guff?



Honestly, I think a lot of us are looking for that. The two sub-forums are kind of an appeasement for the two different communities(Toyota/Subaru). The different subforums mean if you don't like the people who dominate a certain subforum you can switch to another. I prefer OT myself but I visit and cause trouble on the two major subforums too.

It's not a perfect place but FT86club big enough to be interesting. Even the big news outlets can't match our rumor mill. :thumbsup: Plus this is still the best place to find good info on the Twins.


Getting' recognition! :happyanim:

Jayp 04-19-2012 10:14 PM

Weird. Today was actually the first time I even thought about getting another car other than FR-S. I'm trying hard to keep myself from getting interested in other cars until I actually get to see and test drive the FR-S in person.

SUB-FT86 04-19-2012 10:19 PM

The funny thing about me is I only like one other car other than the BRZ Limited under 35k so its always back and forth between the two. The reason I have only 2 cars on my list is because I like a lot of things in one.

RWD
Low slung GT good looking shape
2+2
Sport package
Premium Pkg
Nav system pkg
Good steering to Excellent steering feel
Good to Excellent road feel
Not high maintenance and no expensive parts(Euro's I am looking at you bastards)
Mostly reliable
Engine with good performance
Under 35k

cmspooner 04-19-2012 10:30 PM

I seriously thought (well am thinking) about a new Miata, which I can get fully loaded for the same price as the BRZ Limited. Thankfully the practicality of the Miata has kept me back...but if the BRZ doesn't live up to my (absurdly high at this point) expectations, then I think I'lll go Miata.

Koomoo 04-19-2012 10:48 PM

I have 2 pre-orders at both scion and Subaru, if for some odd reason dealers try to screw me with MSRP or i have to wait till fall to get my car... i would have to choose a DD before then which i'm cross shoping the base model 2011-12 WRX (which i know i can get below MRSP) with these acc

-Body side moldings
-factory install HIDS
-Rear Deck spoiler
-STI lip
- Mud flaps (DIY)
- BOV (DIY)

and called it a day :clap:

YinYang1980 04-19-2012 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dillano609 (Post 187343)
So my original intention was to buy the FR-S, but I figured I'd look at some cars at a local dealership because I thought 25k was a little steep for what you get. I ended up finding a 2004 BMW 330Ci and got it for 10.5K in prestine condition and fully loaded with a 6-speed manual tranny. I couldn't say no, anyone else have similar stories?

no...

i dont say the 2004 bmw 330 ci is not good, but buying a 2004 instead of a 2012 car mean for me that you dont really care witch car your buying, just any good deal for you.

congrat on your purchase, hope you love it.

iff2mastamatt 04-19-2012 11:51 PM

I caved in to get something on 2 wheels... but I still plan on getting a BRZ/FR-S as well.

chate 04-19-2012 11:52 PM

I sympathize with the thought of the BMW, I would agree if I wasnt one of the first 86.

The FRS isn't amazing on the street, its pretty good, but if this is gonna be a commuter car, you'll have just as much fun in a BMW, plus the 15k you pocketed will put you over the FRS in fun factor LOL. Good for you man, hope you enjoy it!

In saving money though, remember to be prepared for potential costly repairs --as based on your price I assume your car is rather high mileage....

Quentin 04-19-2012 11:57 PM

There isn't a single doubt in my mind of the car I want. Well, it will be the BRZ or the FR-S. haha

The only thing that concerns me is when my kiddo is in a front facing seat and if she doesn't fit. The FR-S/BRZ will be a 3rd vehicle, but if she doesn't fit at all, we'll probably just consolidate down to 2 cars and get something like a GS 350 F sport.

koyv90 04-20-2012 01:17 AM

this forum should really just combine the two. I don't like it plus a lot of the brz members post good information that the Toyota people will be missing if they don't follow both sides.

Guff 04-20-2012 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by koyv90 (Post 187616)
this forum should really just combine the two. I don't like it plus a lot of the brz members post good information that the Toyota people will be missing if they don't follow both sides.

Isn't the default option "All"? That's what I keep it on...

Lonewolf 04-20-2012 01:26 AM

I always liked that year 330ci...good looking cars that are fun to sling around.

Have fun with the repair/insurance costs and maintenance though. You'll understand after about a year or so of ownership. Every little thing (even down to the wipers) is overwrought, overpriced, and often overcomplicated.

My best friend (328i), stepmom (X5), and uncle (E46 M3) all owned BMW's and bought them new (they have all now sworn off of them for life because of the repair and maintenance nightmares they experienced).

Verge 04-20-2012 02:50 AM

Ive waited a long time for the car i wont walk away so easily. But not being able to get all the jdm options does bring a damper to my enthusiasm.

koyv90 04-20-2012 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Guff (Post 187620)
Isn't the default option "All"? That's what I keep it on...

idk about you but i have never seen that ha! I have two separate areas for the brz general discussion and the fr-s general discussion.

SuqMadiq 04-20-2012 06:36 AM

Before the price and torque were released I had thought of maybe of getting one. As it stands, $25k for 200hp and 150tq doesn't seem like any kind of deal.

I understand this car is meant to be fun and all, but from what I've seen of the track tests it's not really ground breaking in any segment. Its quite slow accelerating considering basic model cars like a Camry or a Fusion would run with it no problem. Plus, on the skidpad, its not pulling impressive numbers like you would think it would, based upon all the hype over lightweight and low CoG.

Anyways, the only reason I could justify paying $25k+ for it, is if I thought the design was truly unique and out of the ordinary. Though, I can't really say that the appearance is that inspiring or that its cutting edge. Its bit dull, and within 5-10yrs it will surely look dated.

Enemies 04-20-2012 06:49 AM

If anything I would just stick with what I have now.

I drive an old Toyota and have been willing it to die for years since I sort of made a promise to myself that I wouldn't get a new car until this one bit the bullet. Finally broke the promise to myself around 10 months ago when I started seeing stuff on the FT86.

Moral of the story is I guess that I doubt I'd really consider something else, nothing really fits the bill to me... But if I decided not to get it it would just be so that I could drive this thing into the grave and spend my cash elsewhere.

brewksy 04-20-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SuqMadiq (Post 187701)
Before the price and torque were released I had thought of maybe of getting one. As it stands, $25k for 200hp and 150tq doesn't seem like any kind of deal.

I understand this car is meant to be fun and all, but from what I've seen of the track tests it's not really ground breaking in any segment. Its quite slow accelerating considering basic model cars like a Camry or a Fusion would run with it no problem. Plus, on the skidpad, its not pulling impressive numbers like you would think it would, based upon all the hype over lightweight and low CoG.

Anyways, the only reason I could justify paying $25k+ for it, is if I thought the design was truly unique and out of the ordinary. Though, I can't really say that the appearance is that inspiring or that its cutting edge. Its bit dull, and within 5-10yrs it will surely look dated.


The OP was asking if anyone caved in and bought another car and here is "SuqMadiq" again, throwing in a random troll post that doesn't have anything to do with the topic, but everything with re-explaining his hatred for this car.

I figured anyone from Regina would be happy with any vehicle considering you guys only recently discovered the Internet. :)

G-Man 04-20-2012 11:48 AM

I have been always wanted something in this "class" for a long time, so I will be getting one. lightweight, RWD. It would be this, an old RX7, S2k or miata. and I have always liked subaru and toyota. so this is a pretty easy decision for me.

Draco-REX 04-20-2012 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuqMadiq (Post 187701)
Before the price and torque were released I had thought of maybe of getting one. As it stands, $25k for 200hp and 150tq doesn't seem like any kind of deal.

I understand this car is meant to be fun and all, but from what I've seen of the track tests it's not really ground breaking in any segment. Its quite slow accelerating considering basic model cars like a Camry or a Fusion would run with it no problem. Plus, on the skidpad, its not pulling impressive numbers like you would think it would, based upon all the hype over lightweight and low CoG.

Anyways, the only reason I could justify paying $25k+ for it, is if I thought the design was truly unique and out of the ordinary. Though, I can't really say that the appearance is that inspiring or that its cutting edge. Its bit dull, and within 5-10yrs it will surely look dated.

:dnftt:

Mitch 04-20-2012 01:09 PM

I test drove a 2013 Mustang GT with Track Pack. I'm looking for a 2013 Boss 302 to test drive, and when I get a chance to drive the BRZ, if it doesn't knock my socks off, I'm ordering a 302.

Duff_man 04-20-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch (Post 187845)
I test drove a 2013 Mustang GT with Track Pack. I'm looking for a 2013 Boss 302 to test drive, and when I get a chance to drive the BRZ, if it doesn't knock my socks off, I'm ordering a 302.

Are you comparing a 43k$ car to a 24.5k one or I'm mistaken?

ichitaka05 04-20-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Duff_man (Post 187849)
Are you comparing a 43k$ car to a 24.5k one or I'm mistaken?

Nope, you're not mistaken

86'd 04-20-2012 01:19 PM

No, I want a more practical S2000 and I think the FRS/BRZ is the closest to that.

I want a slick shifter, a high revving NA engine, low seating position while still remaining somewhat lightweight. Also it needs to have a back seat and decent trunk space.

No other (new) car has that right now.

I like the Mustang and WRX and 3 Series, all for different reasons, but I think the FRS/BRZ will be the most fun to drive day to day.

Plus I want a new car, with a warranty and hopefully one I'll own for 6+ years. I think it will be worth it to wait a few more months.


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