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EN2_Squirrel 11-15-2013 10:36 PM

cat/no cat hp difference?
 
I am planning on aftermarket headers soon (not sure which one yet). What is the approximate hp/sound difference,if any, between having a cat or not having one?

h4nh 11-15-2013 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EN2_Squirrel (Post 1334547)
I am planning on aftermarket headers soon (not sure which one yet). What is the approximate hp/sound difference,if any, between having a cat or not having one?


If you're running turbo it'll make a big difference. If you get headers I would get catless because you have a second cat one on the front pipe. No check engine light and it doesn't stink up the cabin either.

EN2_Squirrel 11-15-2013 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by h4nh (Post 1334562)
If you're running turbo it'll make a big difference. If you get headers I would get catless because you have a second cat one on the front pipe. No check engine light and it doesn't stink up the cabin either.


N/A Autox car/DD/Occasional track days

FR-S Matt 11-15-2013 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EN2_Squirrel (Post 1334571)
N/A Autox car/DD/Occasional track days

Front pipe cat doesn't matter. Both O2 sensors are pre-post cat in the header. Just tune it and you'll be good.

You aren't leaving any notable HP on the table by going catless vs catted. Catless is cheaper, but possibly raspier.

Hawaiian 11-16-2013 02:24 AM

I dynoed with and without a cat. It was about a 4 hp difference.

stevo_12v 11-16-2013 05:59 AM

Marginal difference. I previous had zero cat's on my setup. Exhaust is slightly louder and raspier. I only changed because of the SMELL and poisonous gas in the garage whenever I let the car warm up in the mornings. Not worth the extra 3-4hp gain for catless.

Plus you can SMELL it while sitting at the traffic lights with your windows down too, a copper just needs to sniff it with his snout and then you'll get pulled over and defected for that. Not worth it.

EN2_Squirrel 11-17-2013 10:32 PM

I have to keep the one the rear cat per scca stx regulations

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