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Sport-Tech 04-17-2012 10:42 PM

Do dealers re-torque lugs during PDI?
 
Anyone with first-hand knowledge on this? They probably need some adjustment after shipping.

NESW20 04-18-2012 12:11 AM

the dealership i worked at never torqued wheel nuts during a routine PDI. if there was any reason to remove a wheel, then obviously that one would get torqued, but otherwise, no. i don't think anyone checks wheel torque during a PDI.

Draco-REX 04-18-2012 12:13 AM

Possibly. But it's not like it's difficult to do yourself. It might not be a bad idea since "re-torquing" to most service techs means "hit with an air gun until your palm gets numb."

Ranatsu 04-18-2012 03:13 AM

I would be legitimately surprised if they actually used a torque wrench or torque sticks at all in the process of putting the wheel lugs on.

Sport-Tech 04-18-2012 04:41 AM

They would at the factory, wouldn't they?

Dave-ROR 04-18-2012 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S (Post 185906)
They would at the factory, wouldn't they?

Factory uses a machine to torque them to spec.

StuttterButtter 04-18-2012 01:43 PM

When i worked at Toyota for 5 years as tech they supplied 1 impact wrench torque adapter Per 15 techs (some long orange thing that just whent on the end of your impact wrench) they would get lost all the time and they never stayed on the gun and would scratch the rims. The only time we did was for when there was a recall on Tundra lug-nuts. So unless a customer asked to have his wheel TRQ we never would and just used a impact gun. And we never did for a New car inspections.

So im gonna say no on this 1.

dsgerbc 04-18-2012 02:05 PM

Nothing about re-torquing wheels in pre-delivery inspection part of the FSM for my legacy. And I don't care. I'm gonna take off wheels same date to test-fit some other wheels I have, so no matter.

NESW20 04-18-2012 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 185728)
Possibly. But it's not like it's difficult to do yourself. It might not be a bad idea since "re-torquing" to most service techs means "hit with an air gun until your palm gets numb."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranatsu (Post 185888)
I would be legitimately surprised if they actually used a torque wrench or torque sticks at all in the process of putting the wheel lugs on.

being a former service tech, i can tell you that 95% of techs i have worked with used torque sticks on impacts or manually torqued wheels every time they re-installed them. there are certainly some techs who don't, but ask me how many comebacks i've had due to any issue with wheels whatsoever... i'll give you a hint: i can count it on zero fingers. :respekt:

Jeff Lange 04-18-2012 10:29 PM

I don't think I've ever seen a tech tighten wheels without using a torque stick or torque wrench.

Jeff

Draco-REX 04-18-2012 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NESW20 (Post 186578)
being a former service tech, i can tell you that 95% of techs i have worked with used torque sticks on impacts or manually torqued wheels every time they re-installed them. there are certainly some techs who don't, but ask me how many comebacks i've had due to any issue with wheels whatsoever... i'll give you a hint: i can count it on zero fingers. :respekt:

I'm sure. But for every tch like you, there's one that doesn't have a clue. I've personally seen a tech use a torque wrench, carefully set it to the appropriate torque, tighten a lug nut, and then BOUNCE his entire body weight on the torque wrench. :mad0259:

Since I can't be sure if I'll get a tech like you, or like the above moron, I prefer to do stuff like this myself.

littlefoot 04-21-2012 04:42 AM

I read the PDI sheet for the FRS today it's two pages long and has what seemed to be at least two dozen items on it to check and torquing the lugs was not one of them. The list was very comprehensive.

#87 04-21-2012 05:00 AM

I don't know about Toyota dealers but when I used to go to Honda I would have to stand on the wrench to get the lugs off afterwards. That was part of the reason I started doing my own maintenance, and of course the dealership rip off prices.

Sport-Tech 04-21-2012 10:20 AM

One solution: only allow the dealer to do the wheel change if they allow you to watch while the tech manually torques the wheels, and require that he shows you the wrench setting. (I've read that torque sticks on impacts are not very accurate.)


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