these offsets bring a tear to my eye...had so much hope

What did you want

Expensive is a relative term. If gram lights weren't expensive, other companies wouldn't be knocking off their design and selling them for less, you know?

I think gram lights are expensive, personally. Do you get good quality at that price point? Absolutely. For me, daily driving does not require the performance such wheels would deliver. That is why I have no problem picking up a set of rota SVN's that are a rip off of volk's re30 design.

I feel it is the same for cars... the FR-S is a bargain car, not a high spec street machine ala supra or even s2k. I bought an FR-S because I quite frankly can't purchase a cayman, which for me is expensive but for others "isn't a real porsche."

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So yeah... good move enkei, keep doing what you do! Decent quality (if unoriginal designs) for decent prices.

I wanted 18x8 +35.

Did you just say an s2k is more of a "high spec street machine" than a twin? Dafuq you smoking?

I'm smoking reality. The s2k was an example of awesome engineering- the NA vtec 2.0 liter pumping out (for the time, and even now) fantastic power. Twitchy to the point of dangerous. Fun to drive, sharp as knives, and actually pretty quick in objective tests.

On the other hand, the twins are not "high spec" by any stretch. Fun? Yes. Well balanced? Absolutely. Quick? Ehhhh... if you squint your brain, sure. Pushing the limits of engineering? Not by a long shot. They don't have a fat, flat torque curve, nor are they peaky pocket rockets with redlines in the stratosphere. They don't have loads of grip, and weren't intended to. These are fun, unadulterated toys.

If you want to call a twin "high spec" or "a race car", you need to do some heavy mods. Well, in my opinion anyway. Also, less like opinion and more like fact- a stock s2k of any year will beat a stock twin around pretty much any track- even if they have the same compound tires. Then again, the s2k wasn't a bargain car.

So in 17x8 5x100 these wheels weigh 19.8 pounds...in case anyone is still wondering

Really? That's disappointing, I was hoping they would be lighter. I wonder how much more the 17x9 weigh...

Thanks for the info...been looking at these and fearing the weight would be close to 20lbs.

Still would love to see them mounted on a twin.

Enkei needs to stop fucking around and give us the GTC01RR.

They're Tuning series, not Racing series.

Yep I was fearing the same thing, I was hoping for 18 pounds or less but expected more because they're tuning series. With a 225/45-17 pilot super sport mounted you'd gain 2 pounds over the stock setup. Bummer because these rims are everything I've been looking for :(

I'll probably still get them. They're the only 17x9 wheel I like. Add a pound for the extra inch and you get 20.8, that's my guess. About 3 and a half pounds over stock for my setup.

yeah they're my number 1 choice for a 17x8...and top quality for what I want to spend. I just don't want to gain 2 pounds rotational mass per wheel and lose any pep..there's not much to spare there