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post_break 11-21-2013 01:36 PM

On the fitting that has the 6mm plug, what are you putting on the new barb? Teflon tape?

autobrz 11-21-2013 03:30 PM

quick question to verify...
Is the hose on the cooler inlet (passenger side) 1/2"? So for AT, I would get a 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 T fitting?
On the driver side, can I T into either side of the BRZ water pipe that Carnz replaced? I'm guessing both sides have a 3/4" hose, right?

can I use oem hose clamps on the T fittings or is it better to use the snake hose clamps?

Kostamojen 11-21-2013 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by post_break (Post 1344703)
On the fitting that has the 6mm plug, what are you putting on the new barb? Teflon tape?

I just used some Subaru OEM Threebond on the threads. Works about the same.

xxscaxx 11-22-2013 05:49 PM

^ I used teflon tape.
@autobrz - yes that line is 1/2. Not sure what T's you will need though since your AT. You can use any kind of clamp you want - I like the oem ones which is why I used them.

Some installed photos:


http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2891/1...4f662430_o.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5527/1...cc48383c_o.jpg

Philly758 11-23-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by xxscaxx (Post 1344672)
Those factory clamps might be for "easy installation" but of all my years owning a car, i've never had one of those style clamps leak on me. I will take one of those over the typical hose clamp that digs into the line any day.

If you buy the proper sized factory clamp as above, it isn't going to leak.


was 25 degrees this morning, oil temp at cruising speed around town (40-50mph) = 194.

I'm sure they factory clamps will work fine. I just had an issue once and am more confident with the screw type clamp.

Nice install! I Like the wire loom on the hose for a little more protection.

xxscaxx 11-24-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Philly758 (Post 1349158)
I'm sure they factory clamps will work fine. I just had an issue once and am more confident with the screw type clamp.

Nice install! I Like the wire loom on the hose for a little more protection.

Different strokes for different folks :D

Thanks, I did it also to kind of hide the line better. Well, "blend" it better with the rest of the loom. I wish I had bought the nylon braided hose cover for it though like what came on my supercharger lines (or like whats on the fuel lines).

autobrz 11-25-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by xxscaxx (Post 1350196)
I wish I had bought the nylon braided hose cover for it though like what came on my supercharger lines (or like whats on the fuel lines).

are there local stores that carry nylon braided hose sleeves?

xxscaxx 11-25-2013 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by autobrz (Post 1351850)
are there local stores that carry nylon braided hose sleeves?

not too sure honestly. I know you can get it from here though http://www.techflex.com/

M1K3 11-26-2013 03:39 PM

Amazon carries [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Techflex-PTN0-50BK25-General-Purpose-Braided/dp/B004UHQNUU/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1385495013&sr =1-6"]Techflex[/ame]

post_break 11-27-2013 11:21 AM

Well the Oil Cooler Connector is back ordered to eternity.

I just talked to Shawn over at Subarupartswarehouse.com and ordered the STI bolt from a 2008 model. He said if it doesn't work I can send it back for a full refund which is badass. I'll update if it does in fact work, there were more in stock too.

autobrz 11-27-2013 12:03 PM

Has anyone logged oil temps on the track with this oil cooler?

^^ my dealer is also still waiting on the oil cooler and connector.

The Slow One 11-27-2013 01:01 PM

I'm going to record my track logs this weekend

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CARNZ 11-27-2013 01:54 PM

If the 08 STi oil cooler connector works let me know and I will add it to the list on the first page as an alternate piece.

post_break 11-28-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CARNZ (Post 1356646)
If the 08 STi oil cooler connector works let me know and I will add it to the list on the first page as an alternate piece.

Will do. Also know that the new WRX has an oil cooler just like this. I would assume 2014 model, the one with the six speed.

CARNZ 11-28-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by post_break (Post 1358542)
Will do. Also know that the new WRX has an oil cooler just like this. I would assume 2014 model, the one with the six speed.

Once a 2015 wrx makes it to our dealer, I am going to look it over and see if their water pipe will be a better fit than the FXT one.

post_break 11-28-2013 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CARNZ (Post 1358586)
Once a 2015 wrx makes it to our dealer, I am going to look it over and see if their water pipe will be a better fit than the FXT one.

It's top mount oil filter too so the oil cooler should work on our car as well.

CARNZ 11-28-2013 04:34 PM

the cooler is probably the same part number as the FXT since its basically the same engine. I just wanna see that water line since some people have expressed concerns about the current FXT solution

The Slow One 12-01-2013 04:48 AM

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...ps52ed4df7.png

This is my oil temps with the first session of the day, I only logged 2 sessions, I can upload my afternoon session(slightly higher ambient) if anyone requests for it. My other sessions were running my lap timer.

M1K3 12-01-2013 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slow One (Post 1362176)
I can upload my afternoon session(slightly higher ambient) if anyone requests for it.

Yes, please do. Also what was the actual Max Oil Temps that you hit? Thanks

The Slow One 12-01-2013 02:14 PM

Can do :) I my last track event was on October 26-27 at the same track but I peaked at around 294f in oil temps. The ambient temps were in the mid 80s those days though. Sadly I accidentally cleared all my logs before I was able to email them to my account. :(

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...ps0fe2864e.png

track junkie 12-01-2013 06:02 PM

The OEM oil cooler looks great for track use. A manual by-pass valve for closing off the oil cooler when driving on the street might be beneficial to prevent oil temperatures from being too cold.

The Slow One 12-01-2013 07:14 PM

no need for it, the cooler cooler acts as a oil warmer for faster warm ups, while cruising to the track, my oil temps tend to be 6-8 degrees above my water temp.

just to add as well, it was 40 degrees outside when i went to the track that morning.

post_break 12-05-2013 10:11 AM

I know this is a lot to ask but can someone take the bolt out and take a picture of it next to a tape measure?

I'm getting the STI bolt today or tomorrow and want to make sure it's very close in dimensions.

Philly758 12-09-2013 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by post_break (Post 1370275)
I know this is a lot to ask but can someone take the bolt out and take a picture of it next to a tape measure?

I'm getting the STI bolt today or tomorrow and want to make sure it's very close in dimensions.

I am curious about this too. Any luck getting a measurement?

I currently have an oil cooler with a sandwich plate and this is what it says for the bolt "lengthened 20mm x 1.5 filter extension". Any chance the STI bolt is 20mm? (http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/p...andwich_Plates)

post_break 12-09-2013 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Philly758 (Post 1379170)
I am curious about this too. Any luck getting a measurement?

I currently have an oil cooler with a sandwich plate and this is what it says for the bolt "lengthened 20mm x 1.5 filter extension". Any chance the STI bolt is 20mm? (http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/p...andwich_Plates)

I will have the bolt today hopefully. Can someone please take theirs out and measure? Please lol.
@CARNZ

mav1178 12-09-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by post_break (Post 1379186)
I will have the bolt today hopefully. Can someone please take theirs out and measure? Please lol.
@CARNZ

I'll take a pic when I get home. I have all the parts but have not installed it due to lack of downtime.

-alex

post_break 12-09-2013 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 1379300)
I'll take a pic when I get home. I have all the parts but have not installed it due to lack of downtime.

-alex

Awesome! Can you take some pics with the tape measure or just measure it. I didn't receive the STI bolt today ugh. It better show up tomorrow...

mav1178 12-09-2013 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by post_break (Post 1379393)
Awesome! Can you take some pics with the tape measure or just measure it. I didn't receive the STI bolt today ugh. It better show up tomorrow...

Will be both. In fact, I'll take a pic of the cooler assembly itself too with dimensions.

-alex

post_break 12-09-2013 10:27 PM

I ordered the Forester bolt from Heurburger, even though it was a super pain in the ass. They were one of the few who still have it in stock. I don't think the STI bolt will work but in the event that it does I'm sure I can just sell the Forester bolt here locally. I can also do a comparison as well.

mav1178 12-10-2013 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by post_break (Post 1379393)
Awesome! Can you take some pics with the tape measure or just measure it. I didn't receive the STI bolt today ugh. It better show up tomorrow...

Quote:

Originally Posted by post_break (Post 1379680)
I ordered the Forester bolt from Heurburger, even though it was a super pain in the ass. They were one of the few who still have it in stock. I don't think the STI bolt will work but in the event that it does I'm sure I can just sell the Forester bolt here locally. I can also do a comparison as well.

Uh... after re-reading your post several times, are you asking for a pic of the stock FA20 bolt, or the Forester lengthened bolt?

Here's the Forester bolt, part #21317AA070:
http://i.imgur.com/HEf4eKI.jpg

For shits and giggles I measured the cooler assembly itself:
http://i.imgur.com/Fn6p177.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fQRwk6q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SjD6NbE.jpg

These last two are what sticks out of the inside of the cooler assembly (i.e. what threads into the block):
http://i.imgur.com/AgG9unQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5t5FPnq.jpg

Hope this helps. If you need a pic of the OEM FA20 bolt, yeah can't help you there just yet...

-alex

post_break 12-10-2013 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 1380206)
Uh... after re-reading your post several times, are you asking for a pic of the stock FA20 bolt, or the Forester lengthened bolt?



Hope this helps. If you need a pic of the OEM FA20 bolt, yeah can't help you there just yet...

-alex

These help big time.

Here is what the STI bolt looks like. It's gonna be close... I've already verified with a friend the thread pitch is correct.

The Slow One 12-10-2013 10:05 AM

Its a subaru and a japanese car. they stay with metric.. lol. The oil coolers are the same. Its just that the forester has a little barrier to prevent a messy oil change. You do know that the cusco kit uses a sti oil cooler/warmer right?

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post_break 12-10-2013 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slow One (Post 1380514)
Its a subaru and a japanese car. they stay with metric.. lol. The oil coolers are the same. Its just that the forester has a little barrier to prevent a messy oil change. You do know that the cusco kit uses a sti oil cooler/warmer right?

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Yeah they use an STI oil cooler, but until I have the STI bolt I won't know that it fits with the forester oil cooler. Better safe than sorry. And if the STI bolt fits, this will be fantastic news since they are much easier to come by.

The Slow One 12-10-2013 11:09 AM

it will fit if its the same metric size as the forester one. the only difference between the two is the little barrier on the forester cooler. if its a completely different metric size bolt, then obviously, it wouldn't even bolt into the car with the oil cooler. I'm not sure why subaru changes the part number for it but its different between every generation turbo subaru... yet all the parts are interchangeable.

CARNZ 12-10-2013 11:53 AM

Hopefully it all works out the same, so that way we have alternate part numbers to order since the supply is exhausted at the moment.

post_break 12-11-2013 07:40 PM

4 Attachment(s)
STI Bolt doesn't fit. It's a quarter inch too long. Now I could trim a quarter inch of thread off of the end that goes to the block, but that's half ass. I'm going to send it back. I tried to install it but because the threads stop it doesn't tighten down the oil cooler.

post_break 12-11-2013 08:21 PM

On a related note. Heuberger Subaru in Colorado can go fuck themselves. I placed an order for the correct oil cooler bolt over the phone two days ago. They had 3 in stock at that exact moment. I called today and they don't have my order. So I gave someone there my credit card info, they either wrote it down or faked it, and now they don't have any more in stock.

Whoever else ordered your bolts from them you lucked out. I just ordered the bolt from ebay.

mav1178 12-11-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178 (Post 1380206)

vs

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1386805180

By eyeballing I see the STi bolt as ~4 5/16". That translates to around 10mm longer than the Forester bolt that I measured.

-alex

CARNZ 12-12-2013 12:12 AM

Update on Parts Availability:

21311AA170 - Backorder ETA Jan-04-2014
14050AA970 - Backorder ETA Dec-12-2013 (this has changed daily so IDK whats going on.)
21328AA220 - Immediate Availability
99078AB330 - Immediate Availability
21317AA070 - Backorder ETA Dec-17-2013

post_break 12-12-2013 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CARNZ (Post 1384893)
Update on Parts Availability:

21317AA070 - Backorder ETA Dec-17-2013

21317AA070 Is in stock on ebay, that's how I was able to get mine.


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