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CARNZ 11-01-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Superhatch (Post 1307491)
So that company doesn't seem to ship, and it's distributors are all out of AU. On ebay I can find an M18, M16, and M12 but not an M14. Did you get yours locally?

TIA

I realized this last night, but have a new solution!

You will need 2 fittings:
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS-Performan...ductId=1281861 <- JEGS -8AN Female to 1/2 hose barb

http://www.jegs.com/i/Russell/799/670490/10002/-1 <- Russell M14x1.5 to -8AN Male

Hook these 2 fittings together and you are set.

I got lucky and my co-worker had a M14x1.5 to 1/2 barb fitting for me to use.

updating the first post now.

Mike

mid_life_crisis 11-01-2013 02:56 PM

So if you are more concerned with an easy installation that works more than looking factory, you could just tap into the heater core supply and exit lines with tee fittings, run the hoses as you see fit and be done with it, quick and painless, correct?
Thank you for posting this. I like it.

Edit: Just finished checking out the other thread and it looks like the cooler needs to be plumbed in sequence to maintain pressure to force water through the cooler. Putting it effectively in parallel with something like the heater core won't work as well because the coolant will take the path of least resistance through the heater core.

Edit 2: Just finished reading the how-to portion of this thread more carefully and it looks like the cooler is installed in parallel and appears to work, so the other thread has bad information.

Can someone who knows please clarify this?

CARNZ 11-01-2013 03:00 PM

You could disconnect the water pump bypass hose from the BRZ water pipe, run it up to the oil cooler, then run the oil cooler outlet down to the BRZ water pipe.

boxer 2.5 11-01-2013 03:04 PM

Come install it on mine!

Tye300 11-01-2013 03:26 PM

Do you have logs of oil temps? At what temps do the oil stabilizes at?

Superhatch 11-01-2013 03:32 PM

Ok, everything on order. Ill update once I get it installed.

Thanks again!

utekineir 11-01-2013 09:06 PM

In for results.

Be awesome if this works better than the ej25 implementation.

Kostamojen 11-01-2013 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by no chrome (Post 1307517)
So this does effectively put the cooler in parallel with the heater core?
I like it but might prefer to have the cooler after the radiator, I'll have to take a look at mine and see if that is even possible

The coolant throughout the system is regulated to ~195 degrees so ya its more about pressure. Plus we are trying to replicate the turbos routing as close to factory as possible.

But ya as carnz mentioned, you could put the cooler routed before the heater core or before the ATF cooler on the AT cars if you want.

xxscaxx 11-01-2013 11:59 PM

I ordered everything as well. Thank you OP for the information and writeup.

CARNZ 11-02-2013 12:28 AM

Got some interest from people for the "Oil Cooler Bundle", should be placing the first orders Monday with the parts shipping Thursday.

Kostamojen 11-02-2013 01:27 AM

Hopefully we don't exhaust the supply of these oil coolers... LOL!

niceguy21 11-02-2013 01:42 AM

I'm definitely interested in buying a bundle too and I was also wondering if anyone else is going to try this would it be possible to make a video. I know the instructions are pretty straight forward, but a vid would helpful too. I'm not too mechanic savvy however it would be greatly appreciated ;)

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8686 11-02-2013 03:36 AM

I am also onterested
Just waiting for some temprature readings before and after the cooler.

Thank you


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PantsDants 11-02-2013 03:59 AM

And if anyone could post pics for what they did differently on an auto, that'd be A+. It sounds like a simple change to the instructions, but I'd rather have pictures in front of me when I set out to do this.

akyp 11-02-2013 05:17 AM

Would this be any different with RHD cars?

Tye300 11-02-2013 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantsDants (Post 1308750)
And if anyone could post pics for what they did differently on an auto, that'd be A+. It sounds like a simple change to the instructions, but I'd rather have pictures in front of me when I set out to do this.

In for this. AT owner here just waiting for additional info.

Kostamojen 11-02-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by akyp (Post 1308796)
Would this be any different with RHD cars?

No idea.

CARNZ 11-02-2013 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tye300 (Post 1308837)
In for this. AT owner here just waiting for additional info.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PantsDants (Post 1308750)
And if anyone could post pics for what they did differently on an auto, that'd be A+. It sounds like a simple change to the instructions, but I'd rather have pictures in front of me when I set out to do this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by akyp (Post 1308796)
Would this be any different with RHD cars?


Wish I could help but no AT or RHD cars here for me to attempt this on :(

We don't have an AT BRZ in stock either, or I'd bring one in a look it over.


As far as temp readings go, I initially wanted to log a warmup from cold start without the cooler, then again after it cooled down and was installed. Forgot my laptop the day I did the install though and just monitored the warmup after the cooler was installed with the SSMIII at work.

jflogerzi 11-02-2013 11:56 AM

Would to see some numbers. This looks great for people who do not want to drop 500-500$ on an aftermarket one.

Kostamojen 11-02-2013 02:07 PM

I'm going to do another video with my torque ap showing oil and coolant temps after I install mine.

CARNZ 11-02-2013 02:12 PM

I'm gonna see if I have time today to do some logging with BRZedit during hard driving.

Realized I forgot to list the part number for the FXT water pipe - 14050AA970...

Ugh my mistake

CARNZ 11-02-2013 02:49 PM

I recommend going to Heuberger Subaru's online parts store to acquire the Oil Cooler Parts.
Here is a screen-cap of the shopping cart with all oem parts needed.

http://i39.tinypic.com/34ycgmq.png

imom 11-02-2013 09:09 PM

Carnz, this is really cool that you posted this thread...thank you. The air oil cooler of say Perrin system versus the FXT water oil cooler...would you say they perform just as well? If they perform about the same, I say this is fantastic...it's half the price and just as efficient at cooling, while if I understand correctly, it heats up the engine oil faster on start up which is to me a better system. I'm just trying to flesh out all the facts, but this is really cool sharing of information.

CARNZ 11-02-2013 09:24 PM

I feel like this system will work fine. In my opinion it's better than the air cooled systems for these reasons:
1) This allows for quicker engine warm up thanks to the heating of the oil when cold.
2) The temps stabilize once at operating temp thanks to the "wet" cooler system
3) No risks of exposed oil lines or cores that can possibly be damaged, causing loss of oil or catastrophic failure of the engine.

Urmyson 11-02-2013 11:11 PM

The only possible problem i can foresee is that by adding the extra heat from the oil cooler, the radiator might not be able to keep the coolant at 195 F when tracking the car hard. I would assume this would only happen when running the car hard for awhile. Even then it might only go up a little bit where it doesn't really matter.

PantsDants 11-03-2013 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urmyson (Post 1309714)
The only possible problem i can foresee is that by adding the extra heat from the oil cooler, the radiator might not be able to keep the coolant at 195 F when tracking the car hard. I would assume this would only happen when running the car hard for awhile. Even then it might only go up a little bit where it doesn't really matter.

Upgrading your radiator as well would prevent this. :thumbup:

PantsDants 11-03-2013 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CARNZ (Post 1308912)
I don't think the AT cars should be any different though, since this block off plug is installed on AT and MT according to the catalog.

Since I plan on doing this at some point, I'll try to look for the plug on my car tomorrow. I'll report back on what I find.

LeeMaster 11-03-2013 01:54 AM

It seems you cannot combine any aftermarket oil cooler with this mod.

jdm-az-fuk 11-03-2013 02:56 AM

Awaiting logs

Kostamojen 11-03-2013 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeMaster (Post 1309948)
It seems you cannot combine any aftermarket oil cooler with this mod.

Why would you even do that?

ft_sjo 11-03-2013 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kostamojen (Post 1310014)
Why would you even do that?

Because it's easy to type random crap on the internet.

PantsDants 11-03-2013 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kostamojen (Post 1310014)
Why would you even do that?

What he said. This mod, coupled with an upgraded radiator, should hold up just fine for anything you throw at it N/A. You may reevaluate later if you decide to go bonkers with forced induction though*.

The pros for this setup definitely outweigh the cons. With this, you get an oil warmer, oil cooler, and you don't have to worry about losing engine oil due to core or line leaks. It really seems like the way to go. I simply plan on installing just the oil cooler without upgrading the radiator as I don't see any track use in my immediate future. Regulating under hood temps via cooling the engine oil down as well as getting to operating temp faster is a big win for me. Plus the added peace of mind of reduced oil temps preventing degradation.

* Pretty much talking out my ass here.

CARNZ 11-03-2013 08:27 AM

Based on my experiences so far, my coolant temp has not risen over 200 in hard driving. It will get up to ~210F sitting still before the fans kick on like usual, but never over heated or got hotter than 212F.

For some reason I can't log the oil temp parameter in BRZedit even though it shows it on the logger, I'm going to email epifan about that.

You may not even need to upgrade the radiator unless you are seeing over 210F on the track, but if you're tracking it you should have already upgraded the plastic end-tanked stocker anyway :P

imom 11-03-2013 09:28 AM

Hi Carnz, can you please post the part number for the BRZ water bypass pipe the equivalent to the FXT 14050AA970. I can't find the part number online, Subaru's website only shows pictures and description, but not sure if this is the right one...would help if I could get the BRZ bypass pipe part number..I'm thinking of taking the pipe modified by a local shop and swapping it out when I'm ready to add the oil cooler.

Also you mentioned a bundle deal, what kind of pricing are you talking about? Please let me know.


Your write up has been helpful, but it's missing some steps for those that has never installed the oil cooler before... I don't see it in my head how the water is being diverted from the water pipe to the oil cooler and then back into the system...sorry just need to clear up how it's connected and whether I need to buy the 14050AA970 part or modify the BRZ version or buy the BRZ version and have it welded extra outlet. Thanks,

Lastly, do you think one gallon of the SOA868V9270 Subaru long life Coolant is enough...I hope this is the right part number.

CARNZ 11-03-2013 09:52 AM

15208AA130 is the part number for the BRZ oil filter.
You need Subaru Super Coolant not the Long Life Coolant. I will get the part number tomorrow at work.

I will also look up the BRZ bypass pipe Monday.

I have removed my bundle after finding that it all can be had cheaper from Heuberger than what my parts manager wanted to do.

imom 11-03-2013 10:08 AM

Sorry about that...too many part numbers to keep track... so I read your posts again, thinking of modified BRZ bypass pipe would be better in terms of no kinks...just have to pay a welder to do it and keep it stock looking.

If it's not too much work...a hand written diagram would be helpful....understand if you don't have time... your thread has been very helpful. Thanks!

Kostamojen 11-03-2013 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imom (Post 1310131)
Sorry about that...too many part numbers to keep track... so I read your posts again, thinking of modified BRZ bypass pipe would be better in terms of no kinks...just have to pay a welder to do it and keep it stock looking.

If it's not too much work...a hand written diagram would be helpful....understand if you don't have time... your thread has been very helpful. Thanks!


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brn12345 11-03-2013 03:37 PM

Subaru has a few part numbers for different cars with different sized oil coolers. Maybe it would be useful if we can find a part number for a bigger capacity cooler from a different model that would work for us?

tonystewart 11-03-2013 04:11 PM

This will give Cusco competition, nice setup!

Kostamojen 11-03-2013 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brn12345 (Post 1310411)
Subaru has a few part numbers for different cars with different sized oil coolers. Maybe it would be useful if we can find a part number for a bigger capacity cooler from a different model that would work for us?

The 2014 Forest XT oil cooler is so far the only one specifically made for the top mounted oil filters on the FB/FA motors.

Its also the same one used on the STI concept:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...n/AY0F4887.jpghttp://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...n/AY0F4898.jpg


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