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nunonuna 11-02-2017 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 2998124)
What did you use to filter the coolant?

I used an empty tea bag / tea pouch with strings(non paper base). I wrapped it over the mouth of jar then pour coolant into fill funnel when refill. I've seen people using coffee filter & shop towel as well.

mkodama 12-25-2017 03:41 AM

I installed the setup per original write up (I think) and I’m noticing zero difference and looking at what I’ve done, it makes no sense either. It’s essentially running in parallel to the heater core return line?

Somebody correct me if I’m understanding this wrong.

EDIT: Nevermind, oil this oil cooler makes such a small difference you won’t be able to see it without data logging. Source, this thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93127

Also, Vibrant Performance 11417 works well for the M14x1.5 to hose barb fitting.

nick.cfrancis 02-13-2018 10:04 PM

Options for the barb fitting without using adapters:

http://www.jegs.com/i/Vibrant-Perfor...11417/10002/-1

http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS-Performan...00478/10002/-1

Harey 02-22-2018 08:31 PM

What is the consensus on throttle body routing vs parallel to the heater core routing?

Guessing I dont need the adapter fitting if the throttle body routing is used. Throttle body routing looks a lot simpler and looking at the link on page 40 it works well.

nick.cfrancis 03-27-2018 01:22 PM

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Looking through the pictures on this thread, it looks like there are two ways that the Forester water pipe is being positioned. Just wondering which one is the correct way?

Fitment A or Fitment B?

GsxrMe 04-03-2018 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nick.cfrancis (Post 3043791)

I'm using the first one with the washer and I recommend using a washer or it will leak as this was not my first or I used and had a leak and replace it. As far as the oil cooler goes I'm using the same exact oil cooler / heat exchanger. I only use the car around town so it works perfectly but I'm not sure how would hold up on the track. Plus side about this heat exchanger oil cooler is the oil temperatures does rise much quicker if you're running a turbo.

GsxrMe 04-03-2018 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nick.cfrancis (Post 3064364)
Looking through the pictures on this thread, it looks like there are two ways that the Forester water pipe is being positioned. Just wondering which one is the correct way?

Fitment A or Fitment B?

Fitment A is how mine looks.

weederr33 04-06-2018 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GsxrMe (Post 3067364)
I'm using the first one with the washer and I recommend using a washer or it will leak as this was not my first or I used and had a leak and replace it. As far as the oil cooler goes I'm using the same exact oil cooler / heat exchanger. I only use the car around town so it works perfectly but I'm not sure how would hold up on the track. Plus side about this heat exchanger oil cooler is the oil temperatures does rise much quicker if you're running a turbo.

It appears both offer washers. Was gonna pick up one of these two.

Irace86.2.0 04-27-2018 11:31 PM

If anyone doesn’t want their old coolant pipe then hit me up. I’m doing a project and could use the pipe. It saves me a trip to the junk yard.

weederr33 06-06-2018 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3078914)
If anyone doesn’t want their old coolant pipe then hit me up. I’m doing a project and could use the pipe. It saves me a trip to the junk yard.

So what was this project?

Irace86.2.0 06-06-2018 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 3095922)
So what was this project?

Old news. I got the pipes from a pick n pull. Check my build. I will be routing my supercharger coolant lines different than what the kit calls for.

Contender 09-10-2019 04:45 PM

So, is the Ned oil cooler kit the same thing..As the Forester XT part # 21317AA070 and #21311AA170?

weederr33 09-11-2019 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Contender (Post 3256158)
So, is the Ned oil cooler kit the same thing..As the Forester XT part # 21317AA070 and #21311AA170?

Yes. But the NED is only those two parts, plus some hosing for the throttle body route.

Mattia M. 01-30-2020 09:54 AM

Ho guys, I would like to mount this system in my car and would like to know if this fitting is correct! it's made of steel, and I think it's better than aluminum. confirm?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273563943419

Thank you.

Capt Spaulding 01-30-2020 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattia M. (Post 3295091)
Ho guys, I would like to mount this system in my car and would like to know if this fitting is correct! it's made of steel, and I think it's better than aluminum. confirm?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273563943419

Thank you.

Not quite sure where you are going to use these, but to answer your question, No, in these services steel is NOT better than aluminum.

Mattia M. 02-06-2020 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding (Post 3295283)
Not quite sure where you are going to use these, but to answer your question, No, in these services steel is NOT better than aluminum.

It should be mounted here, right?

http://i1299.photobucket.com/albums/...psqolcyny9.jpg

Can I use this?

https://www.ebay.it/itm/M14x1-5-METR...bd4e%7Ciid%3A1

Any recommendations on the type of pipes to use, and also is thermal protection necessary, given the proximity to the exhaust headers?

Thank you.

vsn 03-29-2020 07:29 PM

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Hello,

What is the difference if I connect the Oil Coooler to water below Air Intake and not as you did it here at first page of this thread? ... whats the difference? pross/cons...

What is the loop below Air Intake?

thank you.

86TOYO2k17 03-29-2020 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by vsn (Post 3314428)
Hello,

What is the difference if I connect the Oil Coooler to water below Air Intake and not as you did it here at first page of this thread? ... whats the difference? pross/cons...

What is the loop below Air Intake?

thank you.

That loop is coolant, most people hook up the oem heat exchanger through there.

vsn 04-02-2020 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17 (Post 3314471)
That loop is coolant, most people hook up the oem heat exchanger through there.


Yes, I know there is a coolant... But what is difference if I use this loop and not setup figured at first page at this thread. Why someone do it more comlicated and dont use that loop.

So my question is about positives and negatives of each settings.

thank you.

weederr33 04-02-2020 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by vsn (Post 3315551)
Yes, I know there is a coolant... But what is difference if I use this loop and not setup figured at first page at this thread. Why someone do it more comlicated and dont use that loop.

So my question is about positives and negatives of each settings.

thank you.

Most do it because it's easier instead of having to exchange the other parts out. Taking off the bolt on the engine block at the bottom is kind of a pain. I stripped it so I couldn't use it. The throttle body route works fine if you're not going to track the car.

vsn 04-06-2020 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by weederr33 (Post 3315683)
Most do it because it's easier instead of having to exchange the other parts out. Taking off the bolt on the engine block at the bottom is kind of a pain. I stripped it so I couldn't use it. The throttle body route works fine if you're not going to track the car.

Sorry, but what do you exactly mean with " Taking off the bolt on the engine block at the bottom is kind of a pain. " ? dont understand..

whats wrong If I use the coolant loop? I want to go to circuit few times at year (2x-3x) If I go now, I can go only two fast laps.. after this oil has 125 degress celsius.

thanks

weederr33 04-06-2020 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by vsn (Post 3316654)
Sorry, but what do you exactly mean with " Taking off the bolt on the engine block at the bottom is kind of a pain. " ? dont understand..

whats wrong If I use the coolant loop? I want to go to circuit few times at year (2x-3x) If I go now, I can go only two fast laps.. after this oil has 125 degress celsius.

thanks

There is a bolt at the bottom of the engine block you tap into for the Forester cooler CARNS posted in the OP. Nothing is wrong with the throttle body, just that people insist there is less flow to provide sufficient cooling. But if you're going to track the car, it's not going to be much help either. You may want to look into the Jackson Racing dual radiator oil cooler. But for autoX or a couple laps you should be ok.

vsn 04-06-2020 05:34 PM

ok, thank you ... If the exchanger will hold oil temp at normal for 10 minutes at track... its OK for me.

Capt Spaulding 05-04-2020 08:33 PM

Folks,

Looking at the service manual and the parts fiche, auto trans cars have what appears to be a return line from the transmission cooler that connects to the main engine discharge water pipe that crosses the top of the engine and ultimately feeds into the upper radiator hose. The connection appears to be just across the pipe from the bypass line back to the water pump. The port it connects through is blocked off by a blanking plate on MT cars and the ATs use a thermostat and housing. Has anyone tried running the return line for the oil cooler through that port? It would be a simple matter (I think) to buy the $12 housing and connect the return line there (without the thermostat).

TIA

DaveB.inVa 05-09-2020 04:07 AM

I thought I would share the method I used for the Forester oil cooler installation. It may help some especially with the hard pipe at the rear of the block.

Similar to what others have done, from the cooler outlet I used the factory 99078AB330 hose to the factory hard pipe. From the hard pipe to the block M14x1.5 to 1/2 barb fitting I used another 99078AB330 hose.

I read the entire thread and had seen a couple of comments regarding installation of the bypass pipe at the rear of the engine, it was difficult and the lines aren't angled correctly for the BRZ.

Previously, I had a tee in the upper radiator hose for a temp sensor. I thought I would replace the sensor tee with one having a port and run hose from there to the cooler inlet. The tee I used had a 3/8" NPT port and I used a 3/8" NPT to 3/8 barb 90 degree fitting and ran 3/8" heater hose from the barb fitting to the oil cooler. I have a Grimmspeed strut tower bar and attached the 3/8" heater hose to it.

I did have some concerns about the cooling system bleeding properly since that portion is above the bleed port, but everything purged correctly and there have been no issues. One could run the 3/8" hose lower but following the strut tower bar resulted in a shorter route and less chance for abrasion of the hose as it crossed the engine bay.

Previously I had a Blitz sandwich plate installed used for oil temp and just installed it over top of the oil cooler. There was plenty of clearance between the top of the filter and the hood. I actually saw this in an article somewhere so I wasn't concerned.

I also had a Koyorad metal filler neck with a port that I bought almost a year ago and never had installed it. I also installed it during this time and moved the coolant temp sensor there.

Both the Blitz plate and the Koyorad metal filler neck had ports that were 1/8" BSPT and my sensors were 1/8" NPT. To accommodate them I bored the ports out and tapped them to 1/4" NPT. ISSPRO makes a set of nice adapters that are more like bushings so i used one for the water neck. I wasn't aware of them when I did the same on the Blitz plate and used an adapter that doesn't allow as great of probe depth. There is still plenty of probe in the oil flow path so there isn't an issue.

Even though the cooler inlet is fed from the upper radiator hose, the outlet bypasses the thermostat and oil is warmed as soon as heat is available. Oil temps come up faster when idling and my peak oil temp so far has been about 205F. I wasn't pushing it, but the same road would previously give about 220F oil temps.

Total cost was $279.56.

nikitopo 05-09-2020 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding (Post 3327182)
Folks,

Looking at the service manual and the parts fiche, auto trans cars have what appears to be a return line from the transmission cooler that connects to the main engine discharge water pipe that crosses the top of the engine and ultimately feeds into the upper radiator hose. The connection appears to be just across the pipe from the bypass line back to the water pump. The port it connects through is blocked off by a blanking plate on MT cars and the ATs use a thermostat and housing. Has anyone tried running the return line for the oil cooler through that port? It would be a simple matter (I think) to buy the $12 housing and connect the return line there (without the thermostat).

TIA

Yes. This is an alternative option and it was suggested by a well known rally racing tuner in Japan. I don't recall now the name.

gpvecchi 05-09-2020 11:18 AM

How to run the flexible hose in this case? Going down to the heater pipe is quite straight, if I understand, this should run around the engine to its back...

nikitopo 05-09-2020 12:20 PM

Found the part.

http://www.luck.co.jp/products/elspo...lingparts.html

Capt Spaulding 05-10-2020 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gpvecchi (Post 3328909)
How to run the flexible hose in this case? Going down to the heater pipe is quite straight, if I understand, this should run around the engine to its back...

It should run across the top of the engine and connect just under the intake manifold.

Thanks again Nikitopo. Probably won't run it that way but it's a comfort that someone else thought of it.

gpvecchi 05-11-2020 04:18 AM

I find It to be more clean with the heater pipe, as the cooler pipe is oriented to the fender. You should run between the injectors cover and fender and then back under the manifolds with the AT way.

Mattia M. 05-17-2020 06:41 AM

Hi guys,

i read in this post https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...&postcount=228 and this https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...&postcount=229 that this 2 codes 14050AA970 and 14050AB090 are the same. Could you confirm?

Thank you.

AnthonyBRZAus 06-13-2021 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CARNZ (Post 1338806)
Done, uploaded all of the pics to TinyPic and edited my post to link to those photos now, shouldn't have anymore issues.

Any chance someone downloaded these pics, and can re-post them?

The OP posted them to TinyPic... but the website has been taken down now :(

thanks in advance :)


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