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-   -   >>>Bilstein B16/PSS10 Coilover - US Release<<< (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50232)

FT-86 SpeedFactory 10-29-2013 01:26 PM
>>>Bilstein B16/PSS10 Coilover - US Release<<<
 
More goodies from Bilstein keep showing up at our shop, so we got to let you guys know about it.

The meat and potatoes on them:

10 settings for parallel damping adjustment
Rebound and compression phases can be selected in parallel via the adjusters
Individual settings ranging from extreme sportiness right up to the highest level of driving comfort
Threaded body adjustable range of 20 mm at both axles, while installed
Lowering of approx. 30-50 mm at front and rear
Road-tested by BILSTEIN under motor sports conditions and fine-tuned
Spring plates and lock nuts made from a special aluminium alloy
Surface coating using Triple-C-Technology for long-lasting corrosion resistance
Round threads for perfect handling
Quality sport springs made from highly durable material
BILSTEIN mono-tube/Upside-Down technology, made in Germany

Springs rates are the same as the B14 system and are again designed for OEM tophats:
Front: 2.5-4.5kg progressive
Rear: 3.0-7.0kg progressive

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Hanakuso 10-29-2013 01:33 PM
I want these. Why? Because UCLA colors

I had Bilsteins on my Tacoma and S2000. Both seemed to be very conservative but both were actual upgrades over stock

hanabie 10-29-2013 01:46 PM
I believe this is the direct competitor to RSR black? I hope this will cost less.

TouchMyHonda 10-29-2013 02:18 PM
Oh these look nice. I am surprised at the front spring rate.

OICU812 10-29-2013 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hanabie (Post 1300437)
I believe this is the direct competitor to RSR black? I hope this will cost less.
Fairly different coilover by design, plus these are Bilstein. Around 2400+ I'll bet. I look forward to reviews on ride quality!!!

Hanakuso 10-29-2013 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by OICU812 (Post 1300581)
Fairly different coilover by design, plus these are Bilstein. Around 2400+ I'll bet. I look forward to reviews on ride quality!!!
That's pretty spot on. It's listed on tirerack for $2394 + shipping. Seems very expensive compared to my PSS9, which were around $1200 7-8 years ago

WHITE 10-29-2013 03:10 PM
Im not a coilover/suspension nerd, so can someone tell me how these compare to kw v3?

Hanakuso 10-29-2013 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WHITE (Post 1300674)
Im not a coilover/suspension nerd, so can someone tell me how these compare to kw v3?
I think both are compromises for street and track but the KW V3 lean more to the track while these lean more to the street. I'm just speaking in general and not only for our car.

OICU812 10-29-2013 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by WHITE (Post 1300674)
Im not a coilover/suspension nerd, so can someone tell me how these compare to kw v3?

KWs are twin tube, damping adjustable on bottom and rebound on top. If you take a quick look at what ft86 posted, the Bilstein are a (1) way adjustable which is damping/rebound done on one knob. As far as comparing em, pretty hard at this point. KWs ride very well on street for sure, if anything they are considered abit on the soft side for track use overall but still do fine.

I am sure a few months out after some folks have these, there should be some good reviews and data.

CSG David 10-29-2013 05:09 PM
From our sources, MSRP is $3500 with limited availability.

These coilovers cannot be compared to KW V3. KW V3 = 2 way. The other higher end 1-way competitor is the Ohlins Road and Track.

Ro_Ja 10-29-2013 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CSG David (Post 1300996)
From our sources, MSRP is $3500 with limited availability.
What source is that? Bilstein told me ~$2400 when I called them a few weeks ago. Hanakuso even said they're listed on TireRack for $2400 which aligns with what I was told.

I have heard/read that Bilstein's damper adjustability isn't the greatest (not much, if any, change between adjustments; essentially worthless). People have likened it to a simple on/off switch. Is that still the case?

CSG David 10-29-2013 05:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ro_Ja (Post 1301075)
What source is that? Bilstein told me ~$2400 when I called them a few weeks ago. Hanakuso even said they're listed on TireRack for $2400 which aligns with what I was told.

I have heard/read that Bilstein's damper adjustability isn't the greatest (not much, if any, change between adjustments; essentially worthless). People have likened it to a simple on/off switch. Is that still the case?
The listed MSRP is $3500. It does not mean the listed sale price will reflect the MSRP, unless they're telling us otherwise. :barf:

Most 1-way suspension systems have very little changes in between clicks. These PSS10 have just been released by Bilstein, so I cannot provide any comments regarding the damper adjustability on this particular application. :thumbup:

RYU 10-29-2013 06:00 PM
Have these been revalved by Bilstein USA for the US market or are these off-the-shelf Euro valving? Bilstein USA, Bilstein Euro, and Bilstein JP usually do their own valving.

Also, where's the B14?

CSG David 10-29-2013 06:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RYU (Post 1301124)
Have these been revalved by Bilstein USA for the US market or are these off-the-shelf Euro valving? Bilstein USA, Bilstein Euro, and Bilstein JP usually do their own valving.

Also, where's the B14?
1. Haven't inquired yet...but will be forwarded.
2. Backordered. Want to order yours soon? :w00t:


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