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Tye300 10-24-2013 05:49 PM

Aluminum radiator install and impressions
 
I recently installed an oversized aluminum radiator. Here are some pics and impressions. Quoted from my build thread.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tye300 (Post 1289069)
JC Racing Aluminum Radiator and SARD thermostat Install

My previous post mentioned addressing the car's stock cooling system. I feel this is the way to go mod-wise because not only will it prepare the car for the track while NA, these mods will also be great supporting parts in my upcoming supercharger install in a couple of months.
The stock radiator does a good job if you drive it spiritedly on the street and winding back roads, but you can see its shortcomings on the track. To show you an example, I took some shots of my water temp/oil temp gauge to show you how the stock radiator behaves.
Normally, I would be at 90degC for water and 100-105degC on oil temp during my daily drives.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...pse01a40bd.jpg

On spirited drives, water temp usually is at 100degC and oil temps reach 115degC. On the track, water temp goes to around 110degC, and oil temps spike to as much as 135degC. Pretty alarming tracking the car with no oil cooler. I also noticed an AT safeguard that makes the car shift softer when water temps reach 100degC, not a good thing when going for that time attack lap on the track.
Deciding to upgrade the radiator is a no brainer, and I went with the JC Racing aluminum radiator.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...pse8eec89f.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...ps7da73b9f.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...ps7b7cb99d.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...ps9ee325a0.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...ps5df8a560.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...ps4a60bed0.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...ps3a379704.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...ps0ad1b057.jpg

Construction seems nice, fins are good quality, the welds are clean, and the core is three times thicker than the stock one.

Stock and JC Racing side by side:
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...ps21098f2b.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...ps199ae28d.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...ps2237192d.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...ps79b8b9d4.jpg

Install is a PITA! You almost have to remove everything on the front end to get to the radiator.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...pseb6be763.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...ps409cc548.jpg

I also took out the stock thermostat and replaced it with the SARD 68degC cooling thermostat.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...ps0679a4c4.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...ps4f8e0d92.jpg

The stock thermostat is set at 88degC shown here:

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...pse1b2f131.jpg

The SARD is set at a lower 68degC here:

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...ps89d3c670.jpg

The JC Racing radiator is a drop in, with all the stock parts bolting on to it with no problem.

Mounted on the car:

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...psa97ab1cc.jpg

I used Toyota coolant mixed with distilled water:

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...ps2ca21734.jpg

Testing the car after the install, I noticed that the water temp and oil temp has gone down significantly. Water temps on the street usually sits around 80degC, and the oil temp has gone down too, usually around 85degC.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...psfe2cf59c.jpg

Temps rise when the car is still, like in traffic, but when the fans kick in, temps go back down quick.

I tried driving it hard and the most I can get is this:

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...psb89d72d8.jpg

Definitely the radiator and thermostat has given the engine more room to operate temperature-wise. I have to see how this fares at the track. Oil cooler is on order, hopefully arriving ahead or with the supercharger.
I also changed the AT fluid after logging 15,000kms. Dealer was skeptical at me for wanting to change the fluid which was scheduled at 40,000kms. I'm glad I did, because the junk that came out of the transmission was scary. The service reps were surprised how 15,000kms looked like that. Glad I did not tell them I was tracking the car.

I used Toyota WS AT Fluid:

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k8...ps9aad1670.jpg


finch1750 10-24-2013 06:18 PM

Great info. Thanks a ton

Tye300 10-25-2013 02:48 AM

No problem. Just wanted to share.

xsuperbeex 10-25-2013 04:13 AM

is there a link on the product for the radiator?

Tony Mac 10-25-2013 05:05 AM

How much did it cost for you to change the ATF?

Tye300 10-25-2013 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsuperbeex (Post 1292441)
is there a link on the product for the radiator?

Sorry bro, no link. Just got it from a local shop here.

Tye300 10-25-2013 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Mac (Post 1292462)
How much did it cost for you to change the ATF?

Hey bro, got the can for roughly $58 each. Used 1.5 cans for the tranny.

TopGearSolutions 10-25-2013 12:24 PM

Nice write up. I know Mishimoto has an aftermarket radiator offering.

wootwoot 10-25-2013 02:06 PM

Thanks!

cantholdanymore 10-25-2013 02:32 PM

Do you have the weight difference between new radiator and the OEM?

Tye300 10-25-2013 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cantholdanymore (Post 1293260)
Do you have the weight difference between new radiator and the OEM?

Unfortunately not. I did not get to weigh them.

Tony Mac 10-26-2013 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tye300 (Post 1292528)
Hey bro, got the can for roughly $58 each. Used 1.5 cans for the tranny.

And what instructions did you follow to change the ATF? It seems complicated to do yourself.

Tye300 10-26-2013 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Mac (Post 1295153)
And what instructions did you follow to change the ATF? It seems complicated to do yourself.

I had the dealership do it. :thumbup:

72widebody 10-27-2013 09:01 AM

I'd like to see a comparison of the effect of this approach to simply changing to the lower-temp thermostat.


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