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Shiv@Openflash 10-24-2013 04:11 AM

Openflash Tablet v1.31 beta maps (including Stage 2!) now available for download
 
Hi guys,
Happy to announce the public release of our newest OTS maps (v1.31b). The 'b" is for beta but there really shouldn't be anything beta about them. They will retain that designation for another couple of weeks until I confirm that there are no ROM id compatibility errors (always possible when releasing 24 new ROMs at one time!)

They can be downloaded, for free, HERE

Please read the Release Notes that is included in the download folder. It documents the changes in each map release. As well as providing detailed info about the maps themselves. But long story short, here is the gist of it:

- New v1.31 maps (as compared to previous v1.2 maps) are even more knock resistant in the typically troublesome 3000-3200rpm range due to remapped ignition advance/knock correction map. A very worth while update even if you are perfectly happy with the v1.2 maps. Other than that change, performance will be identical.

- Formerly missing maps for ZAJA00D ROM type is now included. I was luck enough to snag this elusive 6AT ROM from a new OFT customer at the last NorCal meet!

- Updated XDFs. They now have parameters for MAP and MAF DTC limits. Adjusting (raising) these values are necessary for turbo/sc applications as I learned last week when doing some mapping work on a Vortech supercharged car. Some other XDF updates as well.

- Removed AirRaid intake maps since 1) few people use this particular intake and 2) the stock airbox, with a little work, performs better and provides more stable MAF readings. By a "little work" I mean a drop in filter and a modified air snorkel. By modified, I mean shortened and widened for improved airflow. I'll post a thread about this tomorrow (with DIY info/pics). Thanks to those who brought this to my attention.

- And of course, our new Stage 2 maps. I'm like a proud father because I think they are really good. As the release notes say, they are only intended for cars equipped with catless headers. If you don't have catless headers, this map will be too aggressive for you car. So please don't bother running it even if you have every other mod available. Compared to our Stage 1 map, the Stage 2 map has leaner AFR, runs more ignition advance, revised VVT maps, new MAF scaling, and other go-fast mapping changes. You can see all the changes yourself by using the Difference Tool in the free-to-use Tuner Pro software (also downloadable from our website). I really hope you enjoy this map because I've been having a great time with it! As with all of our other maps, it is intended only for use with premium fuel (91-93oct). Running on lower grade fuel will definitely castrate performance.

Below are some dyno results comparing Stg2, Stg1 and the stock tune on the same car, same day, same dyno, same fuel, just minutes apart. They car is a 6MT FR-S equipped with only an EL catless header, running on 91oct. Stock airbox, overpipe, exhaust, etc,. This is a Mustang Dyno. It's a low reading heart-breaker of a dyno and has not be calibrated to read high like a Dynojet. For reference, the test car put down 152whp when it was completely stock. So its best to look on at a relative differences, not absolute numbers :)

OFT Stage 2 tune vs Stock tune on same car (headers only)
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k4...tg2OTStune.jpg

OFT Stage 2 tune vs OFT Stage 1 tune on same car (headers only)
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k4...tg2OTStune.jpg

So if anyone has any issues with loading the maps into their OFT (ie, ROM compatibility or such), please let me know and I'll fix it right away. Same goes for any unlikely check engine lights. If you do get any CELs, jut read the code with the ECU fault code reading function in the OpenFlash Tablet. It's unlikely but hey, anything is possible :)

Also, we are working on international ROM support. So over the next few days, I should have support for some of you folks overseas. Thank you for sending me your stock ROM and for your patience!

And lastly, despite ramping up OpenFlash Tablet production we are running low on stock. So if you would like one, best to order (see link in sig) sooner than later. Once we are out of stock, we won't more for another ~2 weeks.

Cheers,
shiv

8686 10-24-2013 10:13 AM

Finally STG 2

Thank you @shiv@vishnu :thumbup:

STG 3 should be Headers + full exhaust

SpeedyJay 10-24-2013 10:34 AM

Looks good, I always prefer *real* mustang dyno numbers to the inflated numbers dynojet spits out.

Cant wait for logging capability :)

Grip Ronin 10-24-2013 11:12 AM

stage 2 yesssssssssssss!!!!!!! you said before it is tuned for full exhaust right?

cnk 10-24-2013 11:14 AM

@shiv@vishnu - Which xdf file is for manual and which is for auto? Up until your 1.2 release notes, you seem to be using ZA1J__C for manual and ZA1J__D for auto. But in your 1.3 release note, it is now referencing ZA1J__C for the auto? Is that a typo?

Unicorn 10-24-2013 11:15 AM

Dear shiv@vishnu,

Could you please tell us more about the MAP limit tables. What problems did you encounter when calibrating the Vortech-equipped vehicle?

Yours faithfully,
Unicorn

JPxM0Dz 10-24-2013 11:59 AM

Thanks for this! I love how you explain each map and what's been updated :thumbsup:

In the process of modifying my own snorkel, look forward to seeing how yours is done ;)

overlookedx 10-24-2013 12:02 PM

Awesome! This is the reason I got the OFT this weekend, so I can finally have a tune with my header! Almost got the Stage 2 beta map this weekend from Shiv, was a little bummed when I only got Stage 1, but now that this is released it doesn't matter. Looking forward to flashing it after work today and noticing any differences on the way home. :happyanim:

Shiv@Openflash 10-24-2013 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8686 (Post 1290270)
Finally STG 2

Thank you @shiv@vishnu :thumbup:

STG 3 should be Headers + full exhaust

The Stage 2 map is suitable for a car with headers and full exhaust. Headers are the only requirement but nothing wrong with additional exhaust mods on top of that.

Shiv@Openflash 10-24-2013 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnk (Post 1290374)
@shiv@vishnu - Which xdf file is for manual and which is for auto? Up until your 1.2 release notes, you seem to be using ZA1J__C for manual and ZA1J__D for auto. But in your 1.3 release note, it is now referencing ZA1J__C for the auto? Is that a typo?

Sorry if I said that in the release notes, it's a typo. D is for usdm 6at. C is for usdm 6mt like before :)

Shiv@Openflash 10-24-2013 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unicorn (Post 1290377)
Dear shiv@vishnu,

Could you please tell us more about the MAP limit tables. What problems did you encounter when calibrating the Vortech-equipped vehicle?

Yours faithfully,
Unicorn

With the stock MAP and MAF limit values (voltage), you'll trigger fault codes if running boost. So raising the values fixes this issue. We raise them to max (5 volts).

glorydays 10-24-2013 01:29 PM

What is the progress on the logging feature?

Shiv@Openflash 10-24-2013 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glorydays (Post 1290679)
What is the progress on the logging feature?

There is progress. Working on a few feature enhancements in parallel so things are taking a little longer than expected. But when done, it will be fully functional and a bit cooler than originally expected.

CamryDS 10-24-2013 02:16 PM

Any plans on making a stg 2 for catted aftermarket headers?

Shiv@Openflash 10-24-2013 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjsporl (Post 1290858)
Question: how do I activate launch control?

It is active be default. It is just set to rev limit (7600) minus 2500, or 5100rpm. So if you rev it with the clutch down and with the car stationary, the revs will hold there. You can change the value from the current default of 2500 to whatever works best for you. But IMHO, launch control is somewhat of a gimmick in a car that makes less than 175lbft ;)

Shiv@Openflash 10-24-2013 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamryDS (Post 1290824)
Any plans on making a stg 2 for catted aftermarket headers?

The Stage 1 maps will be fine for such a setup.

Shiv@Openflash 10-24-2013 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjsporl (Post 1290932)
Does Open Flash support any other features like RaceRom and if so how do I activate them. Also you did not reply to my previous post. Oh, and I like the stage 2 flash a lot but the dip is still their from my experience.

The only other feature the OFT supports is flat foot shift. You can activate it by replacing the default value of 0 (in Flat Foot Shift parameter) with a larger value like 2500rpm. This value dictates how much revs are allowed to drop when the clutch goes in while the throttle is wide open.

As for your previous post, I made no mention of a Stage 3 map. Not to say that it won't come but it's not under development at this time. E85 map will come next.

As for the dip, no amount of tuning will get rid of it completely. Certain headers may help move it around a bit but it will always be there to some degree. The only thing that will eliminate it completely is boost (turbo/sc).

Shiv

Sojhinn 10-24-2013 03:09 PM

Hey Shiv, is there any difference in fuel trims between the stock map and the stage 1 map?

Shiv@Openflash 10-24-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sojhinn (Post 1290983)
Hey Shiv, is there any difference in fuel trims between the stock map and the stage 1 map?

Hard to say, I didn't test the stock map for very long :)

Sojhinn 10-24-2013 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1290988)
Hard to say, I didn't test the stock map for very long :)

Only reason I ask is the Electric Super Charger is safe to run on the stock map, because it will run rich at high rpms. I'm not sure if it would be safe to run your map with it.

Oh well. Thanks for the quick response!

Wepeel 10-24-2013 06:42 PM

Thanks for showing the dynos down to 2000 rpm.

If I'm reading this right - the difference between the Stage 1 (completely stock hardware) and Stage 2 tune (catless header only) is about 3-4 ft-lbs from 4500 and up?

RC51ed 10-24-2013 07:26 PM

Idk if the butt dyno is off, but I defiantly felt a difference. It usually takes me 2-3 start/drive cycles to get the full potential of the tune. I am defiantly enjoying this update version.👍

overlookedx 10-24-2013 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC51ed (Post 1291582)
Idk if the butt dyno is off, but I defiantly felt a difference. It usually takes me 2-3 start/drive cycles to get the full potential of the tune. I am defiantly enjoying this update version.👍

Do you have aftermarket headers Ed? Or are you talking about Stage 1?

RC51ed 10-24-2013 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by overlookedx (Post 1291596)
Do you have aftermarket headers Ed? Or are you talking about Stage 1?

I'm stock besides a cat back that was on the car when I bought it. Stock air filter also.

Shiv@Openflash 10-24-2013 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC51ed (Post 1291602)
I'm stock besides a cat back that was on the car when I bought it. Stock air filter also.

I recommend sticking with Stage 1 if you are running stock headers. Especially on the 91oct we get here in CA. Stage 2 will likely be too aggressive.

RC51ed 10-24-2013 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1291608)
I recommend sticking with Stage 1 if you are running stock headers. Especially on the 91oct we get here in CA. Stage 2 will likely be too aggressive.

Defiantly, just updating from1.2-1.3 and pleased with the results.

VR46 10-24-2013 07:50 PM

Just flashed 1.31 stage 1 for ZA1JA01D - no issues on my end. Stage 2 couldn't come at a better time, I have my header and overpipe in hand and the catted downpipe should be arriving on saturday.

Thanks Shiv!

Norkoastal 10-24-2013 09:10 PM

@shiv@vishnu Shiv, when you get a chance can you show us an example of the snorkel mod you are recommending? Thx!

CamryDS 10-24-2013 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1291608)
I recommend sticking with Stage 1 if you are running stock headers. Especially on the 91oct we get here in CA. Stage 2 will likely be too aggressive.

Just to make sure.

Even with aftermarket headers, if we're using a catted header it's still best to stick with stage 1 correct? I plan to pick up the FA20 Headers, but I'm not sure what would be best either catted or non-catted. I'm just worried what would happen when smog time comes around what's going to happen.

jeebus 10-24-2013 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamryDS (Post 1291771)
Just to make sure.

Even with aftermarket headers, if we're using a catted header it's still best to stick with stage 1 correct? I plan to pick up the FA20 Headers, but I'm not sure what would be best either catted or non-catted. I'm just worried what would happen when smog time comes around what's going to happen.

smog time in California you are not ok with aftermarket headers, even if they have a cat. So you will have to remove them anyway. That said, buy the catless.

Fizz 10-24-2013 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1290970)
As for the dip, no amount of tuning will get rid of it completely. Certain headers may help move it around a bit but it will always be there to some degree. The only thing that will eliminate it completely is boost (turbo/sc).

Shiv

Im sure this has been discussed before...so what this means is that the dip is caused by hardware instead of software? I'm just curious because if it's "by design" then why did the engineers choose to leave it there because surely they could have done something about it during development/testing? Is there even another new NA car on the market today that has a torque dip as bad as this?

fstlane 10-24-2013 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norkoastal (Post 1291759)
@shiv@vishnu Shiv, when you get a chance can you show us an example of the snorkel mod you are recommending? Thx!

There is some discussion about snorkle mods in the OpenFlash Tablet Tuning Tech thread but it's possibly something similar to this. We'll find out for sure tomorrow.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=453
I'm stock except for OFT stage 2, Borla uel headers, modified snorkle and a Cosworth drop in filter. Driving around today the car ran and sounded AMAZING! I noticed the biggest difference on the highway when I stepped on the gas in 6th to pass and the car pulled strong. No more downshifting with the extra torque in the critical cruising rpm range. Thanks Shiv!

Floggin Tires 10-25-2013 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norkoastal (Post 1291759)
@shiv@vishnu Shiv, when you get a chance can you show us an example of the snorkel mod you are recommending? Thx!

READ from first post in this thread▼
Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1290096)
- Removed AirRaid intake maps since
1) few people use this particular intake and
2) the stock airbox, with a little work, performs better and provides more stable MAF readings.
By a "little work" I mean a drop in filter and a modified air snorkel.
By modified, I mean shortened and widened for improved airflow.
I'll post a thread about this tomorrow (with DIY info/pics).
Thanks to those who brought this to my attention.
Cheers,
shiv

▲That means 10/25/2013

@shiv@vishnu
On another note, or suggestion.
Shiv you ought to make a new thread with a clean simple layout.
Specifically (a how to) for not so technical features.
Just keep updating the first couple post in it so its all in one place.

If I heard one more...
...How do I turn on/use Launch control , Flat foot, (insert something already explained a lot!):mad0260:
Its be gone over 20+ times in two threads!
/rant:rolleyes:

I know your being nice, and I respect that.
Not trying to be harsh, I'm sure I'll have my share of questions aswell.

On yet another note.
I applaud you for this Tuning system.:thumbsup:
I'm watching closely.
Again, to you and your peoples, :thanks:

Norkoastal 10-25-2013 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floggin Tires (Post 1292153)
READ from first post in this thread▼
▲That means 10/25/2013

@shiv@vishnu
On another note, or suggestion.
Shiv you ought to make a new thread with a clean simple layout.
Specifically (a how to) for not so technical features.
Just keep updating the first couple post in it so its all in one place.

If I heard one more...
...How do I turn on/use Launch control , Flat foot, (insert something already explained a lot!):mad0260:
Its be gone over 20+ times in two threads!
/rant:rolleyes:

I know your being nice, and I respect that.
Not trying to be harsh, I'm sure I'll have my share of questions aswell.

On yet another note.
I applaud you for this Tuning system.:thumbsup:
I'm watching closely.
Again, to you and your peoples, :thanks:


Good looking out.. Hard to keep track of each separate OPT thread.. Cant wait to flash 1.3!!

Drift-Office 10-25-2013 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu (Post 1290096)
- Formerly missing maps for ZAJA00D ROM type is now included. I was luck enough to snag this elusive 6AT ROM from a new OFT customer at the last NorCal meet!

Could have used this .... yesterday. Got that customer into ECUTEK instead. :)


Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

Sojhinn 10-25-2013 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drift-Office (Post 1292211)
Could have used this .... yesterday. Got that customer into ECUTEK instead. :)


Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

Bob I know you make money with your tunes. On the phantom esc tunes are you encrypting them or Allowing them to be open?


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