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Garstang 10-22-2013 11:48 PM

Windows freezing in the winter.
 
Last winter my windows would not go back up after closing the door. For example when you open the door the window goes down a bit. Then goes back up when the door is shut. But at times it would not go back up. Has any one else had this happen. How do you fix this??

Suberman 10-23-2013 09:43 AM

Aerospace 303 on the rubber door seals will help. Water gets between the glass and the door seals. When it freezes the windows can stall. When it gets colder this shouldn't be a problem.

Ben_G 10-23-2013 09:56 AM

It's sort of annoying, but I bring my snowbrush in with me when I get out of the car.... that way, I could run the ice scraper across the window seal at the bottom before opening the door. Generally, I found that this would be enough to break any ice/window/rubber threesome that caused it to stick.

I haven't tried Aerospace 303 yet on the rest of the seals

Migero86 10-23-2013 10:04 AM

:iono: On one of my cars from my past that had frame-less windows I would rub ivory snow bar soap on the rubber and that worked, also used silicone based lubricant at one point on that rubber and it worked... I am sure the 303 would do the trick too.

Taro 10-23-2013 01:12 PM

I think you can get the dealer to disable the function entirely for you, but I haven't done it myself. Any negative side effects?

thorlius 10-23-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Garstang (Post 1287248)
Last winter my windows would not go back up after closing the door. For example when you open the door the window goes down a bit. Then goes back up when the door is shut. But at times it would not go back up. Has any one else had this happen. How do you fix this??

Mine did that a few times last year. It would disable the auto up/down function as well, and often the entire switch would stop working.

You'll learn the reset function pretty quickly:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19731
(See the third post)

Suberman 10-23-2013 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Taro (Post 1288163)
I think you can get the dealer to disable the function entirely for you, but I haven't done it myself. Any negative side effects?

The auto drop is to protect the side glass from damage if closing the door with the window up. I doubt Subaru will let you disable this.

If the window is not dropping due to ice freezing at the bottom edge of the window then the electrics will simply engage the overload shut off and no damage will occur.

I keep the ice scraper/snow brush in the trunk. If you open the door before you brush off the snow the driver 's seat will get covered in snow as soon as the door opens. Snow in the trunk is not important by comparison.

wparsons 10-23-2013 05:05 PM

^^ The auto drop is more to get a better seal than to protect the glass. If you look at the seal area, there's lots of clearance for the window even without it dropping down.

I only had mine freeze up once last year, and it was after being buried in snow for a couple days. I was house sitting for a relative and had been driving their car when we got puked on.

Rayme 10-23-2013 05:21 PM

To the OP : http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...le+auto+window


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Originally Posted by Suberman (Post 1288699)
The auto drop is to protect the side glass from damage if closing the door with the window up. I doubt Subaru will let you disable this.

If the window is not dropping due to ice freezing at the bottom edge of the window then the electrics will simply engage the overload shut off and no damage will occur.

I keep the ice scraper/snow brush in the trunk. If you open the door before you brush off the snow the driver 's seat will get covered in snow as soon as the door opens. Snow in the trunk is not important by comparison.

The windows do not rub when disabled. The problem is when the window freezes the computer resets itself and when you shut the door the windows is not totally up as it has time to roll down before it stops, so you have to reset the window by rolling it down and doing the little sequence, but you can't because...the window is frozen. And it freezes from inside. There's been an occurence of a guy here who the window froze and didn't notice it came down 3-4mm, he came back to his car later in the day and it snowed inside!

I can tell you, one Canadian winter and you'll want to disable them before christmas time ;)

wparsons 10-23-2013 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rayme (Post 1288876)
I can tell you, one Canadian winter and you'll want to disable them before christmas time ;)

I disagree, mine only froze once and the car had been buried in wet snow for a couple days then froze up solid. Under normal day to day conditions it was 100% fine every day.

i_4got 11-07-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Suberman (Post 1287802)
Aerospace 303 on the rubber door seals will help. Water gets between the glass and the door seals. When it freezes the windows can stall. When it gets colder this shouldn't be a problem.

So where should I apply this stuff? The bottom part of the window? I'm not sure what "rubber seal" refers to.

Has anyone had any issues from not resetting the windows after freezing? I reset every single time the windows froze last year, and I got kind of sick of it. My window froze once earlier last week and I didn't bother resetting it, so when the door is closed, the window is now not shutting fully. There's no big gap between the window and the rubber so I don't think rain or snow can get in. Has anyone had issues with this?

Suberman 11-07-2013 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by i_4got (Post 1318576)
So where should I apply this stuff? The bottom part of the window? I'm not sure what "rubber seal" refers to.

Has anyone had any issues from not resetting the windows after freezing? I reset every single time the windows froze last year, and I got kind of sick of it. My window froze once earlier last week and I didn't bother resetting it, so when the door is closed, the window is now not shutting fully. There's no big gap between the window and the rubber so I don't think rain or snow can get in. Has anyone had issues with this?

I applied it to the entire door seal, both doors. The upper portion is what freezes to the glass. No need to apply anything to the glass.

Ben_G 11-12-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Suberman (Post 1319188)
I applied it to the entire door seal, both doors. The upper portion is what freezes to the glass. No need to apply anything to the glass.

So my window froze this morning...and for sure it wasn't the window-to-body seal since the door was open and you could see/hear the motor trying to lower the window. It was frozen at the window-to-door seal (the one that is fuzzy on the inside) at the base of the window.

Also annoying.... realizing that the window was still frozen when I got to the parking entrance and having to open the door to get the entrance ticket.

Suberman 11-12-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben_G (Post 1326443)
So my window froze this morning...and for sure it wasn't the window-to-body seal since the door was open and you could see/hear the motor trying to lower the window. It was frozen at the window-to-door seal (the one that is fuzzy on the inside) at the base of the window.

Also annoying.... realizing that the window was still frozen when I got to the parking entrance and having to open the door to get the entrance ticket.

That happens to every car. Unfortunately there's no fix apart from an ice scraper.

I elected to keep the snowbrush in the trunk for this reason.

Several cars with frameless windows have this "feature".

Actually, I wonder if putting Rain x on the outside of the glass might reduce this problem? Anybody tried that?

Ben_G 11-12-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Suberman (Post 1326534)
That happens to every car. Unfortunately there's no fix apart from an ice scraper.

yea...a few minutes after I posted, I realized that it happens to all cars...except that it was never an issue with framed door...duh.... :bonk:

acremer 11-13-2013 08:52 AM

I've been experiencing that problem too. How do I reset the mechanism if the window doesn't go down (because it's frozen?

Ben_G 11-13-2013 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by acremer (Post 1328668)
I've been experiencing that problem too. How do I reset the mechanism if the window doesn't go down (because it's frozen?

Unfortunately, resetting requires that the window be unfrozen..........

Rayme 11-13-2013 09:33 AM

Mine finally froze last night, time to disable that POS option once again.

Captain Stall 11-13-2013 12:36 PM

Mine have frozen 3 times now in Moncton: twice two weeks ago in the frosty mornings, and again last night.

7thgear 11-13-2013 12:41 PM

spent all of 2011-2012 winter without a single hickup

last night first time weather dropped into the negatives and it already got "stuck"

gonna clean my window, clean the rubber seals, apply some sort of jelly/protectant and see whats up.

sad panda

Demandred7 11-13-2013 03:01 PM

Had it happen two nights ago when the temperature dropped quite a bit from when I started work to when I finished work. A little snow brush action and a little warming up did the trick. As long as you can get the window down, you can reset. With car door closed, lower the window to the bottom and then raise all of the way and hold for 3 seconds - voila - all good.

Suberman 11-13-2013 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 7thgear (Post 1329011)
spent all of 2011-2012 winter without a single hickup

last night first time weather dropped into the negatives and it already got "stuck"

gonna clean my window, clean the rubber seals, apply some sort of jelly/protectant and see whats up.

sad panda

You don't want anything on your window glass. That will get onto the scraper/seal and then your side window will always be messed up.

Use silicone type spray for rubber seals on the door seals. It soaks into the seal and won't mess up the glass. Be very careful,what you put on your window glass as once ya contaminants get onto the scraper/ seal at the top of each door it is a rpita to get it cleaned off.

Garstang 11-13-2013 09:21 PM

Aerospace 303 on the door seals.

SciOnDrifTtSlIdeR 11-14-2013 04:23 AM

easy fix parking the car for the winter dont want any salt on her anyways. playing in the snow could have been fun tho

that_guy 11-14-2013 01:25 PM

You need some spray silicon or tire shine (same thing really). Think of it as putting lip balm on your car. It's cold, so the rubber will dry out and when it's dry and tacky, it will stick to the glass.

FLYFISHR 11-14-2013 01:53 PM

would Armor All do the same thing?

Suberman 11-15-2013 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FLYFISHR (Post 1331470)
would Armor All do the same thing?

Yes, it's silicone based. Makes things shiny and slippery. I'd use Aerospace 303 if you can find it but Armour- all would work on the door seals.


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