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simpleisbest 11-11-2013 08:08 PM

No ones mad here.
Just saying there is a difference. That difference is weight.
It's really that simple.

If you are racing in a competitive class, then any opportunity to save a few pounds here and there are sometimes appreciated (they can add up). If you are just modding a car for fun, then it really doesn't matter.

Mikepage 11-11-2013 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simpleisbest (Post 1325584)
No ones mad here.
Just saying there is a difference. That difference is weight.
It's really that simple.

If you are racing in a competitive class, then lany opportunity to save a few pounds here and there are sometimes appreciated (they can add up). If you are just modding a car for fun, then it really doesn't matter.

View from this point yes you are right :)

diss7 11-13-2013 12:34 AM

Percentage increase over OEM for our 16mm adj rear swaybar are as follows –
Soft – 44%
Med – 89%
Hard – 114%


18mm bar –

Soft – 129%
Med – 199%
Hard – 251%



Email from Whiteline, after I enquired about their rear bars.

Mikepage 11-13-2013 08:37 AM

Thank you, I will update the first post soon.

ft_sjo 11-13-2013 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diss7 (Post 1328259)
Percentage increase over OEM for our 16mm adj rear swaybar are as follows –
Soft – 44%
Med – 89%
Hard – 114%


18mm bar –

Soft – 129%
Med – 199%
Hard – 251%



Email from Whiteline, after I enquired about their rear bars.

The problem is, it's all bollocks. When you use those outer holes, you're changing the pick up point for the drop-link, which in turn affects the curve throughout the motion. It can also potentially place a lot of additional/wrong load onto the drop link. For reference, Subaru use the same drop links for 16/18/19 bars, possibly thicker but I haven't bothered checking.

The most reliable way to use these 'adjustable' bars is use the hole closest to OE! Forget the rest!

Mikepage 11-13-2013 09:28 AM

I never thought about this, you bring a good point, I will think about it when will change my sway bar.

It's difficult to know how the car will react whit a bigger sway bar this is why they put holes to give the possibility to correct the handling depend on the setup.

I try to mean, it's maybe a little bit difficult to know exactly the bar we want, example : to get more oversteer, not to much and I need to bought a bar with only one hole in the perfect spot according to my setup.

diss7 11-13-2013 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ft_sjo (Post 1328670)
The problem is, it's all bollocks. When you use those outer holes, you're changing the pick up point for the drop-link, which in turn affects the curve throughout the motion. It can also potentially place a lot of additional/wrong load onto the drop link. For reference, Subaru use the same drop links for 16/18/19 bars, possibly thicker but I haven't bothered checking.

The most reliable way to use these 'adjustable' bars is use the hole closest to OE! Forget the rest!

You get adjustable end links. And, if you have their LCAs you have multiple mounting point options.

I'm not entirely following what you're actually talking about, but would guess that's what these other adjustments are for..?

Racecomp Engineering 11-13-2013 03:40 PM

Eibach, Hotchkis, and our RCE bars are hollow. Not sure on anyone else.

Our 25mm front hollow bar is roughly equal to a 22mm solid.

Our 19mm rear hollow bar is roughly equal to a 16mm solid.

Both would weigh less than a solid bar of similar stiffness.

I can post the equations if you're curious but it doesn't do much good if you don't have the inner diameter of the bar tube.

- Andy

Mikepage 11-16-2013 06:50 PM

First post unpdated!

FRSGeek 11-16-2013 07:19 PM

Is it me, or the % (percents) the mfgs are spouting of +XX% or +YYY% increase are not the same for stock?


What are the values for stock and that should be in the list, pointing out those that are being *cough* slightly inaccurate as to their rate increases.

Mikepage 01-11-2014 05:02 PM

Sway bar option list
 
First post updated for whiteline spec!

RehabJeff86 01-12-2014 01:02 PM

I recently installed SPL Pro rear LCA with end links, was able to play with the 3 different mounting point for the end links on the LCA with OEM sway bars at Laguna Seca, each mouting point makes drastic change on oversteering - more stiffer more oversteer, im pleased with the softest setting resembling OEM driving dynamic and clocked the fastest time.

Long story short - OEM sways are awesome!!

Mikepage 01-13-2014 11:29 PM

Nice setup but expensive ;)

I placed an order on the whiteline package, rear 16mm sway bar with brace and link.

Freshfrs86 01-13-2014 11:34 PM

I've been looking for something like this! Good stuff!


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