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iccce34 10-21-2013 01:01 PM

The dreaded torque crater
 
So I was wondering, from those of you who have retuned your motors, what it took to correct the odd torque band and if you noticed a substantial difference. I just hit 3000 miles and was going to do an intake, header back exhaust, and a tune come spring. Is there any talk of a cam package for an N/A setup?

Dimman 10-21-2013 01:03 PM

Epic first post.

JDKane527 10-21-2013 01:15 PM

No cams yet but there's some in the works.

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MAPerformance 10-21-2013 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iccce34 (Post 1283141)
So I was wondering, from those of you who have retuned your motors, what it took to correct the odd torque band and if you noticed a substantial difference. I just hit 3000 miles and was going to do an intake, header back exhaust, and a tune come spring. Is there any talk of a cam package for an N/A setup?

Proper header and tune. Done.

CK_Bladesmith 10-21-2013 02:55 PM

No need for an intake....the stock intake is excellent. Go with a full exhaust, headers all the way back, and a tune, then you will be good to go.

husker741 10-21-2013 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CK_Bladesmith (Post 1283464)
No need for an intake....the stock intake is excellent. Go with a full exhaust, headers all the way back, and a tune, then you will be good to go.

If anything, do a filter (I have TRD) and inlet hose. That keeps the stock box, has a better diameter than the stock hose, deletes the sound tube, and gives better sound and a little better performance at half the cost of an intake system.

FR-S Matt 10-21-2013 03:10 PM

Header + Tune has consistently eliminated the torque dip along with FI options. It's all over the forums and the dynos are listed.

Jive Turkey 10-21-2013 03:19 PM

the first part of your question has been answered over and over.

as for cams, just think about how much work you will have to do...for what gains? you can't just lift heads in this car, you HAVE to pull the motor, and IMO when pulling a subaru motor you should build it up at that point, just cams will be such a waste of money.

jflogerzi 10-21-2013 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CK_Bladesmith (Post 1283464)
No need for an intake....the stock intake is excellent. Go with a full exhaust, headers all the way back, and a tune, then you will be good to go.

Yup what this man said. If you hate the noise generator, just get an inlet tube and and drop in filter :)

Circuit Motorsports 10-21-2013 06:19 PM

With a good tune you can actually greatly reduce the torque dip. To completely eliminate it and get a bump in torque in the mid-range a set of headers is needed.

With headers and a tine, the car can really be transformed with more power throughout the entire rev-range.

You can see what we did here on a stock exhaust car - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47586

Guff 10-21-2013 07:15 PM

Torque crater, huh... :iono:

http://i.imgur.com/wyHA2AA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rIApETF.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/A05nSI9.jpg


So that's how it happened... :confused0068:

SloS14 10-21-2013 08:51 PM

The gay liberal media would have you believe this is what happened.

The torque dip is there by design.

http://www.says-it.com/scripts/csg-s...&ecolor=2E3587

Captain Snooze 10-21-2013 09:19 PM

Just do a quad turbo, supercharged with nitrous V8 engine swap.


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