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zkv476 07-13-2014 03:57 PM

Car: '14 BRZ
Miles: 7,800
Use: DD, never tracked/autocrossed/abused
Suspension: RCE Yellows (20mm drop)
Power: ~240whp (theoretical/estimate, not dynoed)
Forced Induction: Vortech SC
Axle broke story: Eventually...

I've had ticking going on for a few weeks that's progressively gotten more frequent and I'm feeling I should replace it soon. Started even when I was on stock suspension but given that now I'm slightly lowered and have an SC the dealer's not going to warranty it, granted I should have had it checked out much sooner but I didn't realize it was the axles unless it was too late. Is the 20mm drop geometry likely to repeatedly destroy axles or did I just have a bad one from the factory? I've been considering diff risers but only if it's necessary.

irocz0r 08-14-2014 11:50 AM

What I'd really like to know is how many people have cars lowered more than 2.5"s and HAVEN'T broken an axle?

I don't plan on driving hard, I just want to like the way my car looks. But I don't want to break anything :(

gonzo 08-21-2014 03:55 PM

For anyone who has confirmed it's the axle: does it sound like this?

[ame]http://youtu.be/OZoN6mWBgro[/ame]

wheelhaus 08-21-2014 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 1910644)
For anyone who has confirmed it's the axle: does it sound like this?

http://youtu.be/OZoN6mWBgro

Not exactly. That little click/ping could just be the wheel bearing nut needing a re-torque. It's possibly the CV, but I don't think it is.

A bad CV jont sounds like a more regular clicking that happens in time with wheel rotation. The more the joint is deflected, the more prominent the click will be. In a FWD car, the easy way to do this is to turn the wheel to full left/right lock and drive forward/reverse. RWD it's a little harder to deflect the axle, but it should have a more regular clicking.

mike the snake 08-21-2014 07:03 PM

Wouldn't the spacers make the angle slightly greater?

What is it that causes the CV's to fail? Is it the increased angle, or that when lowered the axles are pulled out of the CV's slightly?



Quote:

Originally Posted by Roxy86 (Post 1815754)
S2000's have a similar problem with lowered cars...
Someone should develop some alxe spacers - pushing the axles further in by the CV

http://home.tiscali.nl/onlinestorage...and%20diff.JPG
http://robrobinette.com/images/S2000.../SpacersIn.JPG


Dipstik-sportech 08-21-2014 07:11 PM

Spacer can't be made for our cars because our cars don't use flange style axles.

Jac 09-02-2014 08:56 PM

I've had this same ticking/clicking noise coming from my drivers side rear axle for the past 2 months and its been resolved after a tech greased my spindle.

First dealership had the car in for 2 days and came back asking for $600 to replace the axle, they blamed my lowering springs. After some back and forth I took the car to another dealership, after that tech read the notes from the last dealership they also concluded it needed a new axle. I succumbed and they ordered the part.

Fast forward to today, i brought the car back to have the axle replaced but one of the senior techs wasn't totally convinced it was an axle issue. After giving him a ride along he had an idea and 20mins later i took the car out for another spin and no more clicking/ticking/tapping noises.

He removed the hub/wheel/axle assembly, cleaned it, greased it, retorqued and boom. Issue resolved.

If you're also encountering this issue I'd recommend you try the above solution first before replacing your axle.

EDIT: Just to be clear, this is the noise i was hearing: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43936

Guff 09-04-2014 03:18 AM

I have the same sound. I'm bone stock. I have a appointment with the dealer tomorrow so we'll see what's up.

TylerLieberman 09-05-2014 01:21 PM

Yeah, axle spacers won't help.

The best methods to keep from busting the axles are:
Differential risers
Subframe risers
Upgraded axles

Keep in mind that diff risers, whil raising the diff by almost an inch, is going to dramatically increase the noise entering the cabin from the diff. Subframe risers will help, but not as much as the diff risers. However you won't get the dramatic increase in NVH either. Upgraded axles help but if they're still at an extreme angle, they won't last forever.

Seems like the best solution without sacrificing the daily driveability of the car is upgraded axles and subframe risers. That will raise the subframe by 10mm or so and give you stronger axles to work with.

Dipstik-sportech 09-08-2014 01:18 AM

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Does anyone know the torque spec for the axle nut?

cnk 09-08-2014 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech (Post 1936487)
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Does anyone know the torque spec for the axle nut?

140.1 ft-lbs

Gopherboy6956 09-08-2014 01:44 AM

Also Add me to the list. Broke it the same weekend as Cale up there ^^^, only mine happened on the way home from the track, 1 mile from home.

Car: BRZ 13
MI: 9,300
Use: Autox, Road Course, Street. Never Dragged it.
Lowered: Yes - see photo below
Power: ~265 to the wheels
Forced Induction: Yes, Vortech S/C
Axle broke story: 2nd major 3 day track event since S/C, 5th overall. Everything went fine on the track, was driving home (~2hrs) and 1 mile from home I hit a sizeable bump in the road and snap, no more power to the wheels. Haven't taken it apart yet - but it's pretty clear:
[ame]http://youtu.be/yRhIxNFClNs[/ame]

The Car as it stands:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y14...psf8c84ceb.jpg

trueno86power 09-08-2014 08:43 AM

Welll allmost a year later and I've still didn't broke an axle !

Because of this :

http://www.quebecfrs.com/forums/MGal...em.php?id=1629

Cu0ngsayz 09-14-2014 05:00 AM

Without going under the car. How can you tell if the axle is broken? Is there a loud humming noise


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