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-   -   Subaru's new engine FA 16 DIT: 1.6L Turbo 240Hp (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49372)

Anaxilus 10-18-2013 10:26 PM
FIAT is doing 240 (and 260lb/ft) w/ 1.7L. Really not that big of deal at all. Rumour has it they limited output at the time due to weaknesses in their DCT.

Demandred7 10-19-2013 11:25 AM
How about the engine/powertrain in this:

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/toy...-and-info-news

czar07 10-21-2013 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TylerLieberman (Post 1279108)
Your point?
You are questioning the reliability of a 1.6l 240hp motor...i am pointing to a 350hp 2.0l..anyway

Pete156 10-21-2013 01:46 AM
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Nice motor.

Hood scoop for the 86?

Hanni_0176 10-21-2013 02:04 AM
Meh... I'd rather just boost my 2.0L

Atropine 10-21-2013 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Anaxilus (Post 1278567)
Why? The Formula Atlantic 4AGE 1.6L did 240hp NA decades ago. If they can get 100hp/L in theory, that means only 8psi to hit 240 from 160. A few of the Toyota 4AGs were modeled on the old Cosworth 1.6Ls. BMW made a boosted 1.5L dropping over 1,400hp.

BMW M12 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Making power is easy, any manufacturer can do it. If they don't it's because they choose to pursue some other performance metric.
I was going to bring this engine up as well (The Formula Atlantic).

My S/C MR2 was a 1.6 (4AGZE) and I had a legit 180 wheel HP, So I would guess around 200 at crank...
Why is this relevant?
My S/C MR2 was made in 1988.

With forged internals and an aluminum block, you can do amazing things.
Heck...the S2000 was 2.0 liter with 240 hp...

So yeah, its certainly doable.

Reliability and mass production and cost...

That old adage...

Fast, inexpensive, reliable....Pick two.

reni 10-21-2013 03:32 AM
There is already a FA20 DIT in production, which makes 300PS (~296hp)

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http://www.subaru.jp/legacy/touringw....0-gt-dit.html

So 240PS from the 1.6L version seems about right.

Wise 10-21-2013 07:16 AM
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/193l...f/original.gif

utekineir 10-21-2013 09:46 AM
looks like they addressed the claims of nowhere to put a turbo

chulooz 10-21-2013 10:05 AM
The 1.6DIT was released and on display over a year ago, more details to come.


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