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connorlug 10-14-2013 07:56 PM

Loud misfires upon cold start
 
Hey guys, I'm unfortunately making my first post with an issue.

I have a brand new 10 series FRS, with about 800 miles on it.

I've had no issues except for this, when I start the car cold in the morning, for the first 15 seconds of high idle I get 2 - 3 loud misfires, sometimes more sometimes less. No codes are thrown, and after the car gets through the first 30 seconds of high idle it runs perfectly.

I'm actually a certified toyota tech believe it or not, but before I lay this issue on my master tech I wanted to get some info from the forums. Anyone else have this issue or can point me to the correct thread? Thanks again!

I should also clarify - My car was produced after cutoff date for the Rough idle/camshaft sensor/misfire TSB.

whitefrs 10-14-2013 08:07 PM

maybe DI Seals are bad but i doubt it cuz is not even broken in which means u dont go over 4k rpms



what dealer do u work at?

connorlug 10-14-2013 08:10 PM

Competition Toyota (suffolk county) it's broken in, it's been above 4k a few times.

feldy 10-14-2013 08:24 PM

that's the sounds of the precat warming I thought I have the same thing on cold mornings started over winter.

mike_ekim1024 10-14-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by feldy (Post 1270089)
that's the sounds of the precat warming I thought I have the same thing on cold mornings started over winter.

Is it just sound or can you feel it? I have the same thing now with a alpha-tune. It just happens once or twice early in the warmup.

whitefrs 10-14-2013 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by connorlug (Post 1270064)
Competition Toyota (suffolk county) it's broken in, it's been above 4k a few times.

Middle Island?

well post a video of ur car so we can hear the sound

connorlug 10-14-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by whitefrs (Post 1270182)
Middle Island?

well post a video of ur car so we can hear the sound

Yup middle island! Whereabouts are you from? And will do, I'll grab a video in the morning after it sits all night

whitefrs 10-14-2013 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by connorlug (Post 1270204)
Yup middle island! Whereabouts are you from? And will do, I'll grab a video in the morning after it sits all night

Im from East Quogue

Yea post that Video up


Sent from somewhere

Steve 10-14-2013 10:56 PM

Had the same sound almost every morning last winter and some cold mornings in the fall and spring. Some of the pops are quite loud. I think feldy might be right that it has to do with the cats warming up, because the car runs fine and i have never heard that sound at any other time than initial start-up. Many people on the forums have noticed the sound last winter and I'm sure the topic will pop up more this winter, but I don't remember reading about any resolutions or anyone having it looked at by Toyota.

Opposed 10-14-2013 11:06 PM

Yep, my car does the same thing but only during the winter when cold starts are below 35 degrees usually. I thought it was my DI seals too, but it has started perfectly all spring, summer, and so far fall. I heard from a tuner that the "pops" are from the pre cats warming up as well.

ft_sjo 10-15-2013 03:00 AM

Lean misfires during cat light procedure. Normal, but a bit shitty. I'm going to dial it out on mine.

sweetfrs 10-21-2013 02:11 PM

Now are we talking about a sound like champange cork going off under hood? Is tht the pre cats? Cuz i got that today for the first time

Wepeel 10-21-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetfrs (Post 1283328)
Now are we talking about a sound like champange cork going off under hood? Is tht the pre cats? Cuz i got that today for the first time

Yeah mine are like that. It's captured pretty well here:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...58&postcount=3

Although mine doesn't pop that much, but the sound is similar. But usually I start driving earlier and I never get those sounds other than on occasional cold startup.

I don't think it's DI seals since I have an 01C cal and still under 5k miles.

The lean misfire thing makes sense - I just switched from E0 to E10 and the first cold startup on E10 it popped more than it ever has before - probably because fuel trims were dialed back for E0, and as a result E10 was probably running a little lean before the ECU had a chance to learn and adjust fuel trims.

JDMenrique 10-21-2013 02:43 PM

Same issues here. Only on really cold mornings, almost sounds like really loud knocks. Car runs just fine when you drive away.

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