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jimmillion 10-13-2013 04:25 PM

How to: CANADIAN Avic X9310BT - Rearview Camera :UPDATED
 
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Hi all,

For all the Canadian BRZ people out there heres a few pictures and notes from my install. (links to all parts at the bottom)

Installation was pretty straight forward:
-remove trunk liner,
-undo plaque bolts,
-measure cam location,
-drill hole, (I used this drill bit to be more precise)
-feed wires thru hole with grommet,
-feed through existing rubber grommet into interior,
-solder on longer section of wires.
-run along body, zip-tying as you go,
-feed into back of headunit,
-wire it all up and done.
...see simple lol

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The purple wire below is what tells the headunit that you're in reverse. It's wrapped in the existing harness, so you will need to strip and then run a jumper to the rear tail light wire in the driver side wheel well.
Attachment 54294


The tiny pink wirebelow is the power wire for the reverse lights. It's hidden behind the cover where your hood release is by the pedals. You run the jumper wire from the purple wire to this little guy.
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Wiring:
1. Yellow AV connector (from Camera) went to the Brown connector (from harness).
2. Red +power wire (from Camera) was spliced into a Red wire (from existing harness) to gain the +12VDC, only when the car was on.
3. Black -power wire (from Camera) was attached to one of the grounding bolts on the body of the car, behind the head unit
4. Purple wire (from existing harness) was jumpered to the pink rear light signal wire in (driver side wheel well)

Parts used:

Camera - http://dx.com/p/eagleyes-ec-th1009-1...-dc-12v-195193

Harness - [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Assembly-Harness-Pioneer-X9310BT/dp/B0088HRFJG/#productDetails"]Amazon.com: Subaru Replacement RCA Cord Assembly AV Radio Harness for Pioneer Avic X9310BT.: Car Electronics[/ame]


- 20ft of 24 gauge wire for all extensions.

- 1 rubber grommet.

- zip ties

- black tape / crimps / splicers / soldering iron


Let me know if you have any questions.

cheers - Jimmilion.:thumbsup:

UPDATE: Well seems the "waterproofing" isn't what it made out to be. The first frost this season proved to much the camera. The lens is frosted over from the inside.... pretty disappointing, but it's still useable.

Bringiton 10-16-2013 04:20 PM

How well does that camera work at night?

jimmillion 10-24-2013 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bringiton (Post 1274139)
How well does that camera work at night?

To be perfectly honest, not great but you can still make things out.

I did a LED conversion for my reverse lights and still not much of an improvement.

I can see everything up to the yellow guide lines (approx 2 feet) but no much after that.

I'll grab you a picture one day.

jimmillion 10-28-2013 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bringiton (Post 1274139)
How well does that camera work at night?

As promised here they are:

1st) Well lit intersection.
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2nd) non lit parking lot, 1/4 moon with overcast, curb at approx. 4.0m(13ft)
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3rd) non lit parking lot, 1/4 moon with overcast, curb at approx. 1.5m(5ft)
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Bringiton 10-29-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmillion (Post 1299279)
As promised here they are:]

Not the bad for a discount camera.

Thanks.

rip curl 10-29-2013 10:42 AM

Looks like I have my next project! So how did you route the wires back to the head unit so that they are hidden in the interior?

rip curl 10-29-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rip curl (Post 1299974)
Looks like I have my next project! So how did you route the wires back to the head unit so that they are hidden in the interior?

I think I might have answered my own questions...

I'm guessing this guide was useful for routing the wires: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30144

And I'm thinking of using this camera and mounting it where one of the license plate bolts go (similar to the beat sonic install): http://dx.com/p/e366-compact-vehicle...12v-ntsc-50507

jimmillion 10-31-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rip curl (Post 1299974)
Looks like I have my next project! So how did you route the wires back to the head unit so that they are hidden in the interior?

believe it or not I just tucked it all over the panel pieces without removing them. By the door well there's even a channel to run to wires in if you pull off the trim piece.

Protrip: for feeding the wires throught the rubber gromet from the trunk door to the car interior, spray a tiny bit of WD-40 in there and they all slide right thru.

vignesh 02-24-2015 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmillion (Post 1306343)
believe it or not I just tucked it all over the panel pieces without removing them. By the door well there's even a channel to run to wires in if you pull off the trim piece.

Protrip: for feeding the wires throught the rubber gromet from the trunk door to the car interior, spray a tiny bit of WD-40 in there and they all slide right thru.


what is the yello video out rca input that is shown in this picture

http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/...c-2013-032.jpg

is it possible to connect the camera to that and instead get power from the reverse tail light? do we need the harness that u previously mentioned.

jimmillion 02-24-2015 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by vignesh (Post 2145283)
what is the yello video out rca input that is shown in this picture


is it possible to connect the camera to that and instead get power from the reverse tail light? do we need the harness that u previously mentioned.

I'm not 100% but I'm pretty sure that video out is for a second monitor, like say if you had one for the back seats like they have in mini vans.

What you need is a video "in" so that you can get the image from the camera. Unfornaturely only way to get that is either make or buy the extra harness that has that input.

jtsimaras 07-02-2015 01:40 PM

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Thanks for the write up I did this today. I added a slight variation to the wiring procedure.
For the Reverse wire I wired it up to a harness behind stereo that is used for stock back up camera, as indicated in picture it is the orange/white wire.

Saves time having to run to footwell. Only compliant I can give about the camera is the angle seems to point down a lot, besides that it is awesome.

Thanks

a_dee 07-09-2015 02:58 AM

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the camera angle looks like mine, pointed all the way down to the ground and not up so you can actually see behind you. I need to make a wedge shaped shim to angle the camera back up.

jtsimaras 07-10-2015 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by a_dee (Post 2314916)
the camera angle looks like mine, pointed all the way down to the ground and not up so you can actually see behind you. I need to make a wedge shaped shim to angle the camera back up.

Agree I bought a different camera on ebay and same result. I'm going to make a plastic wedge from some left over interior panels I have kicking around.

a_dee 07-10-2015 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jtsimaras (Post 2316485)
Agree I bought a different camera on ebay and same result. I'm going to make a plastic wedge from some left over interior panels I have kicking around.

Post a shot when you're done, I think many people would benefit from these hacks.

jtsimaras 07-10-2015 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by a_dee (Post 2316629)
Post a shot when you're done, I think many people would benefit from these hacks.

Will do :cheers:

a_dee 07-25-2015 07:07 PM

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OK, made a shim out of jewelers bench block (rubber) and then got everything reinstalled. Much better now. The angle is now 0 degrees straight back at a height of around 32" where the camera is located and then just catches the back of the bumper.

jtsimaras 07-26-2015 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by a_dee (Post 2334859)
OK, made a shim out of jewelers bench block (rubber) and then got everything reinstalled. Much better now. The angle is now 0 degrees straight back at a height of around 32" where the camera is located and then just catches the back of the bumper.

Nice work. :respekt:
I haven't been able to do this yet. In addition my camera has been acting up...it will work sometimes and then not others. When I check all connections I will realign.

jtsimaras 07-26-2015 10:54 AM

Interesting :

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BACK-UP-MINI...fcb600&vxp=mtr

a_dee 07-26-2015 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jtsimaras (Post 2335310)

looks like you might be able to get a bit more height easily with this.

rip curl 09-08-2015 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jtsimaras (Post 2307386)
Thanks for the write up I did this today. I added a slight variation to the wiring procedure.
For the Reverse wire I wired it up to a harness behind stereo that is used for stock back up camera, as indicated in picture it is the orange/white wire.

Saves time having to run to footwell. Only compliant I can give about the camera is the angle seems to point down a lot, besides that it is awesome.

Thanks

I'm going to attempt this install as I have the harness from Amazon and the camera now. I'm a little confused as to where this harness is. Is this the main harness that is no longer used and is being solely used to tap into the camera?

Also, where do I pull +12V power from to power the camera? Same harness?

jtsimaras 09-09-2015 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rip curl (Post 2384181)
I'm going to attempt this install as I have the harness from Amazon and the camera now. I'm a little confused as to where this harness is. Is this the main harness that is no longer used and is being solely used to tap into the camera?

Also, where do I pull +12V power from to power the camera? Same harness?

For my setup there was a harness that was not being used, it is the harness the OEM subaru backup camera connects to. The main harness to the deck should be black. Hope this helps.

rip curl 09-09-2015 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jtsimaras (Post 2384200)
For my setup there was a harness that was not being used, it is the harness the OEM subaru backup camera connects to. The main harness to the deck should be black. Hope this helps.

So can I tap +12V from that harness as well?

jtsimaras 09-10-2015 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rip curl (Post 2384417)
So can I tap +12V from that harness as well?

Yes I can't recall which one was the +12 v acc wire. Do you have a tester? Wire to the one that is alive when car is on, don't wire to constant power line.

rip curl 09-10-2015 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jtsimaras (Post 2385333)
Yes I can't recall which one was the +12 v acc wire. Do you have a tester? Wire to the one that is alive when car is on, don't wire to constant power line.

So I've started to remove the radio and panels to figure out how to wire the camera. I've got a couple of questions...

(1) Do you connect the new adapter and only use the brown connector on it for the camera? Do I need to connect all the stereo connections too or do I keep everything as is and untouched? So the new adapter works in conjunction with the adapter and wiring already there?


http://i.imgur.com/NFkvYnf.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/pBxiT4n.jpg



(2) The purple wire below connects to the orange/white wire in the connector on the harness, correct?

http://i.imgur.com/99LIruQ.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/806UKXh.jpg?1



(3) In the same harness where the orange/white wire is, can I use the red wire to power the camera? Or should I be tapping into another wire for power?



(4) If you used the license plate hole to mount the camera, how did you get the plastic white piece out? Or did you guys just drill a hole through?

http://i.imgur.com/Azq2Dda.jpg?1

SVXdc 09-12-2015 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jtsimaras (Post 2307386)
For the Reverse wire I wired it up to a harness behind stereo that is used for stock back up camera, as indicated in picture it is the orange/white wire.

Saves time having to run to footwell.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rip curl (Post 2384181)
I'm a little confused as to where this harness is. Is this the main harness that is no longer used and is being solely used to tap into the camera?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtsimaras (Post 2384200)
For my setup there was a harness that was not being used, it is the harness the OEM subaru backup camera connects to. The main harness to the deck should be black.

The factory harness with the reverse gear signal is the large 28-pin one, located in the head unit cavity (see jtsimaras' picture in his post #11). On other BRZ, Scion, and Toyota models, that plugs into a socket on the back of the OEM HU (along with another pair of harnesses for power and speakers).

The 28-pin harness has the wires going to the factory mic and aux jack, plus leads that provide the HU with the reverse gear and vehicle speed signals. It doesn't have anything related to a camera (other than the reverse gear signal).

Note that FR-S models do not have the reverse gear wire pinned there. Some BRZ and 86 models outside North America may also lack that wire. In that case, you would have to tap into the wire in the driver's footwell, as jimmillion (the OP) wrote.

The Canadian-installed AVIC-X9310BT uses its own mic, and its own custom adapter harness for aux and USB, so it does not use the BRZ's 28-pin harness at all -- the 28-pin is left loose behind the AVIC (actually, I hope the installers tied or taped it down).

The harness with the black plug that jtsimaras referred to is the power/speaker harness for the AVIC. The other end of that goes to 10- and 6-pin connectors to fit the BRZ's factory power/speaker harnesses.

In later model years that have a factory camera, there will also be a separate 16-pin harness with the wires from the camera. I would think that if Subaru Canada continues offering a package with the AVIC-X9310BT in a car with an OEM camera, they would include an adapter harness that connects from the car's 16-pin to the camera input on the AVIC's 24-pin. This adapter would also have to grab power from somewhere else to provide to the OEM camera.

The factory 16-pin also has a lead with the car's parking brake signal. So actually, in earlier years without an OEM camera you should find that the AVIC adapter harness already includes a leg with a 16-pin connector to grab the car's parking brake signal.

Could any of you post some better pictures of all of those harnesses that Subaru Canada installs with the AVIC, stretched out and untangled so we can get a better idea of how they're configured?

SVXdc 09-12-2015 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by rip curl (Post 2386536)
(1) Do you connect the new adapter and only use the brown connector on it for the camera? Do I need to connect all the stereo connections too or do I keep everything as is and untouched? So the new adapter works in conjunction with the adapter and wiring already there?

On the new AVIC 24-pin RCA harness (that you order on Amazon or eBay), you only need to use the brown rear camera RCA jack.

All of the other RCA jacks are available if you want to use any of them, but that is optional. To see details about all of those other RCA jacks, you can go to Pioneer's site and download the AVIC-X930 installation manual PDF.

Be sure to insulate the end of the Pioneer's yellow/black "mute" wire.

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(2) The purple wire below [on the AVIC-to-BRZ power/speaker adapter harness] connects to the orange/white wire in the connector on the [28-pin] harness, correct?
Correct -- Connect the AVIC purple (actually shown as violet with white stripe in Pioneer's docs) to the orange/white reverse gear lead on car's 28-pin aux/mic harness.

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(3) In the same harness where the orange/white wire is, can I use the red wire to power the camera? Or should I be tapping into another wire for power?
No. The other wires on the car's 28-pin are for mic and aux, and are dead in your case.

Here are your options to power your camera:

A) From that same orange/white reverse gear signal lead (so camera will only be powered when you shift into reverse). For an alternative to splicing into the factory wire, see this post (ignore where I talk about connecting to wires on the CA-Fi Dashlinq HU).

B) From +12V Accessory power. This will allow you to view the camera at times even when you're not in reverse. Note that some cheap Chinese cameras have a voltage converter that gets extremely hot if left powered for more than a brief time.

Where can you get +12V ACC power?

A) Tap into the red wire on the AVIC-to-BRZ power/speaker adapter harness (the same harness that has the previously-unused violet/white wire).

B) From the BRZ's "Option Connector" harness. This is a separate, unused, 6-pin harness behind the HU:
http://ae64.com/images-e41/86_FR-S_B...nnector-th.jpg
(click to see larger image)
That plug is very similar to the 6-pin half of the car's power/speaker harnesses. To connect to that, you can easily modify half of a car stereo installation harness (Metra 70-1761, Scosche TA02B, or equivalent).

V9pal95 01-24-2016 07:08 PM

so I used this guide and wired up my camera, it works but only when I start the car and put it into reverse. if I press home/mode, and I try to put it in reverse again, the camera won't turn on. any suggestions on how to fix that? great write up btw!

z2two 06-07-2016 02:07 AM

great write up, i'm going to try this out on the weekend after my harness arrives

edit: installed and everything works great


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