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kuhlka 10-13-2013 10:53 AM

Easy Oil Change
 
[ame]http://youtu.be/xe3QzaYCPa4[/ame]

I got the idea for the fluid evacuator from someone on here or the BRZ forum. It makes things ridiculously fast and easy.

Gary in NJ 10-13-2013 01:43 PM

The title says "easy". That's a friggin' hassle; a bigger PIA then putting the car on ramps and draining through the drain bolt.

You want easy, install a Fumoto Oil Drain Valve, the one that can accept a hose. You don't even have to jack the car to drain the oil, just reach under, attach the hose and open the spring loaded valve. Zero clean-up.

http://www.qwikvalve.com/fumoto-f108s-valve.html

whaap 10-13-2013 01:54 PM

That's how you change the oil in many boats with inboard engines. It's not my favorite method. I always imagined a certain amount of sludge/debris setting on the bottom of the pan that wouldn't get washed out because there was no flow of oil coming from the lower drain plug.

996garage 10-15-2013 07:05 PM

Nice contribution kuhlka. My BRZ is too low to drive up onto my ramps, so I use this method. I've used the evacuator on my NSX and Supra as well.

However I chose not to remove the dip stick tube as I did not want to cause any undue wear on the seal holding it in place. Takes a few minutes longer to suck the oil out since you have to use the smaller diameter tubing though.

The Fumoto valve is nice, but it just seems to add another possible point of failure by using it. I'm always paranoid I'm going to bottom out with my lowered cars and cause the valve to partially open. Oil leaks out, and then kaboom. I'm sure it's a very minute possibility, but it still bothers me.

Gary in NJ 10-15-2013 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 996garage (Post 1272178)
The Fumoto valve is nice, but it just seems to add another possible point of failure by using it. I'm always paranoid I'm going to bottom out with my lowered cars and cause the valve to partially open. Oil leaks out, and then kaboom. I'm sure it's a very minute possibility, but it still bothers me.

A simple mod is all it takes to keep that from happening. You just need to drill a hole in the drain arm and then safety wire the valve closed.

Abenaki 10-15-2013 07:55 PM

FYI."..The Fumoto site also has the following recommendation:

If you are using the Engine Oil Drain Valve on off-road vehicles such as farm tractors and logging equipment under extreme environment (i.e. corn fields, brush areas), it is recommended that a hose clip as shown below be used for extra safety and security. The hose clip, which can be purchased at any hardware stores, will firmly keep the lever in the locked position at all times.

(They have pictures on the site that I cannot paste in here)

Drain Valve Size Hose Clip Size
T, FG Series 11/16" Clip
F Series 5/8" Clip

kuhlka 10-20-2013 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary in NJ (Post 1267528)
The title says "easy". That's a friggin' hassle; a bigger PIA then putting the car on ramps and draining through the drain bolt.

You want easy, install a Fumoto Oil Drain Valve, the one that can accept a hose. You don't even have to jack the car to drain the oil, just reach under, attach the hose and open the spring loaded valve. Zero clean-up.

http://www.qwikvalve.com/fumoto-f108s-valve.html

This assumes you have ground clearance and don't mind using a low enough vessel (oil pan) to fit under the car. Ramps are a pain in the ass to me. I'd rather use my father's full pneumatic lift if I'm going to use the drain plug bolt. The nice thing about the evacuator is that I can take it into the garage and dump the oil into whatever container I want afterward.

Quote:

Originally Posted by whaap (Post 1267540)
That's how you change the oil in many boats with inboard engines. It's not my favorite method. I always imagined a certain amount of sludge/debris setting on the bottom of the pan that wouldn't get washed out because there was no flow of oil coming from the lower drain plug.

~90,000 miles on my 05 STI and zero sludge. Last time the oil pan was dropped it looked like new. The key is frequent oil changes with full synthetic and drive the car. Dino oil (non-syn) and long intervals between oil changes is how you get sludge.

dem00n 10-20-2013 10:38 PM

I guess i'm old.

I put the car on jacks stand, get an oil pan and just take out the plug. Refill oil and put a new filter.

This method looks good, but i don't think it gets all the oil out, though truly neither methods do get all the old oil out.

Also for as well a Fumoto valve would seem as another thing to fail. Sure you buy a clamp, weld it, put superglue on it but it won't hold as well as a properly tighten oil plug from my view point.

imom 10-25-2013 03:25 AM

why can't you use the oil filter opening to stick your tube down to extract the oil? Also can't you get a smaller hose to fit the dipstick, instead of having to removing it each time?

mfbmike 10-25-2013 04:02 AM

Awesome vid. :thumbup:

Not sure a 1.2 gallon evacuator is big enough. Doesn't appear to be anything in between that and a 2.3 gallon one. 2.3 is a bit overkill.

Our engines are supposed to hold 5.7 qts right?

5.7 qts = 1.4 gallons.

Anthony 10-25-2013 04:21 AM

Can't... see... videos... at work.

Subscribed.

86Toyobaru 06-16-2014 02:08 PM

The newly design FA engine is very good to use fluid evacuator. I have used this way to change oil for my 86 many times. No problem at all. Easy and clean. No need to get under car and get dirty. (for EJ engine, the fluid evacuator wont work)
Btw, if you go to Benz or BMW dealer, they use fluid evacuator for oil change as well.

stugray 06-16-2014 02:39 PM

Well on a car that requires raising the engine to change the plugs ... Why NOT!

Complicated is the new simple.

(I dont even use ramps, I just pull one side of my car up the curb and I can even fit my fat ass under there enough to drain the oil)


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