Nav alternatives?
 

Since we don't get nav with the FR-S and I don't want to subscribe to a cell data service which is required for the Bespoke, what are the alternatives? Hate the windshield-mounted options. Does the new iPad have a GPS receiver? It would make a great high-res nav with a good app.

There is Nav in the FRS

I'm mostly gonna go with a Galaxy Tab (GPS built-in) + OBD2 bluetooth + Torque App + Tab stand (that bolts to the floor under the left passenger seat bolt)

My opinion, the iPad is too big for Nav only and I'm not sure the FR-S is big enough to want cables running everywhere.

There are a lot of good DD aftermarket nav units that should be a direct fit although it may not integrate with the onboard hands-free stuff. There are some random threads on this in the electronics area. Here is one unit that was suggested that looks pretty good.

Ive had good experience with Kenwood Nav Units i the past. The only thing about that is...the units are so out in the open, that thieves would immediately see it and want to break in and take it.

Yes this thread should probably be moved to electronics, apologies, sleep-deprived atm ...

Pioneer AVIC series

the one i want is a JVC KW-NT30HD
http://www.jvc.ca/en/consumer/presen...stination.html

That JVC one is pretty good since you can remove it. One less problem to worry about if your parked in a shady neighbourhood.

Just get a Garmin, and mount it however you want, doesn't have to be the on the windshield. Plenty of mounting options. I've learned that sans smartphone route (and even if you have a smartphone), there is nothing better for GPS than a good new Garmin. And you don't need data for that, it'll work anywhere. I recommend the Nuvi 40 LMT if you want to go cheap (around $100, give or take). And where the heck are you going to put a fricking huge 10" iPad in a small car like this? It's going to look ridiculous, no matter how you mount it.

thomas guide. cheap, you can install them yourself, and there are no wires

Mount it right in the middle of the steering wheel xD

You still need the data plan for your tablet for the gps option.

To OP: if all you need is the navigation, there is nothing better than just get a decent size gps like Garmin. You can use it anywhere without charge, even in us. There are things you can buy to mount your gps on the air vent easily, and you can store it when not using it. Pretty simple.

As to the torque app for android, I wonder if you can run gps/map and torque programs at the same time. It should not stop you frI'm switching one app to another.

I wonder if the amazon kindle would be a cheaper option for the tablet.

LOL yes I was thinking of just leaving the iPad on the passenger seat but it's a pricey option. I'll check out the Garmins, thanks.

Thanks - l like the vent mount idea, I do not want my windshield blocked, and the only mounts I have seen so far are the windshield suction cups and the "bean-bag" style dashtop mounts.