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brzninja 04-10-2012 11:02 AM

Keyless access option on limited
 
I searched the forums and couldn't find anything on this but will the keyless access option be available upgrade for the premium model (like the fog lights)? Or is it only on limited models?

Thank you!

Subie 04-10-2012 11:03 AM

I think you have the trims backward.

Ryephile 04-10-2012 11:09 AM

Premium has the normal key w/built in remote.

Limited is the higher trim level with the "Keyless access with push button start".

The Keyless system has 6 proximity sensors throughout the car along with associated wiring, capacitive-touch door handles, and a different center IP stack that also has the auto HVAC, which itself is more complicated than the manual HVAC. Adding the Keyless access to a Premium car would likely be more expensive than simply buying a Limited to begin with.

CLTBRZ 04-10-2012 11:09 AM

The Premium has a keyfob with keyless entry (i.e. you press a button on the keyfob and the doors unlock, you turn the key in the ignition to start the vehicle).

The Limited has a proximity keyfob (i.e. you touch a spot on the door handle to lock/unlock the doors, and push button start)

The Limited's method will not be available as an option on the Premium.

sure74 04-10-2012 12:07 PM

Does anyone have experience with the Toyota push to start in a MT vehicle? I know that the Prius can be running but if the proximity keyfob is not in range you can not shift the car out of park and drive it away (great for quick 7-11 stops). Wondering if the ability to drive the car is disabled (and how) when the car is running but the key is not present?

TOYSTRY 04-10-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sure74 (Post 179438)
Does anyone have experience with the Toyota push to start in a MT vehicle? I know that the Prius can be running but if the proximity keyfob is not in range you can not shift the car out of park and drive it away (great for quick 7-11 stops). Wondering if the ability to drive the car is disabled (and how) when the car is running but the key is not present?

Good question. I have push start in my 2011 4Runner but it's an auto. Wondering how the push start works on a manual?

DEC1 04-10-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TOYSTRY (Post 179507)
Good question. I have push start in my 2011 4Runner but it's an auto. Wondering how the push start works on a manual?

A manual requires the clutch to be depressed on starting, after that it doesnt care if the key is there or not...you're fine until you get to your next destination and turn off the car...then there's no starting it back up until the key is in range again...
I believe this is called the "oh crap the key fob is in my wife's purse...now what am I going to do?" feature... :)

Silverhks 04-10-2012 03:37 PM

Surely the car shuts off if the fob gets out of range?

powertrip 04-10-2012 03:45 PM

No, its a safety feature in case for instance the battery in the fob dies you wouldnt want your car to turn itself off in rush hour traffic. Therefore once started fob is irrelevant until attempting to start the car again.

OrbitalEllipses 04-10-2012 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sure74 (Post 179438)
Does anyone have experience with the Toyota push to start in a MT vehicle? I know that the Prius can be running but if the proximity keyfob is not in range you can not shift the car out of park and drive it away (great for quick 7-11 stops). Wondering if the ability to drive the car is disabled (and how) when the car is running but the key is not present?

More like great for moving violations.

sure74 04-10-2012 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 179622)
More like great for moving violations.

Can't say I understand that comment but no need to explain.

Not saying it should turn off the car if you throw the key fob out the window at 100mph but it would be nice if it limited fuel or did something safe to prevent someone from driving it away when parked.

bladesamurai 04-10-2012 04:40 PM

I think the safe way to handle that is to turn the car off when you aren't driving it. I don't understand why people leave their cars running in the parking lot when they go into stores.

sure74 04-10-2012 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bladesamurai (Post 179686)
I think the safe way to handle that is to turn the car off when you aren't driving it. I don't understand why people leave their cars running in the parking lot when they go into stores.

If the car cannot be driven then there is no harm but I agree with you, I would never leave it running with the key in it and if the push start for MT doesn't prevent a 'joy rider' from taking a spin I will shut it down for sure.

dookie11 04-10-2012 05:06 PM

Funny how the semantics works with the BRZ. Premium is the lower trim, and Limited is the higher trim. From looking at the words, you'd just assume Limited means it's LIMITED in options, LOL, and Premium is HIGHER/BETTER :D

Enemies 04-10-2012 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DEC1 (Post 179516)
A manual requires the clutch to be depressed on starting, after that it doesnt care if the key is there or not...you're fine until you get to your next destination and turn off the car...then there's no starting it back up until the key is in range again...
I believe this is called the "oh crap the key fob is in my wife's purse...now what am I going to do?" feature... :)

It would be pretty horrible if something like that happened. Drop your wife off somewhere. Stall the vehicle on a hill. And the car won't start again.

sure74 04-10-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Enemies (Post 179728)
It would be pretty horrible if something like that happened. Drop your wife off somewhere. Stall the vehicle on a hill. And the car won't start again.

Agreed, it should notify you with a beep or something when the car is running and the key fob leaves the car. The Toyotas do so I bet it does.

bladesamurai 04-10-2012 05:27 PM

It definitely does. While looking at the demo car yesterday the car continually beeped and had a "key is not in the car" sort of light that was on in the gauge cluster, because the key wasn't in the car.

Enemies 04-10-2012 05:30 PM

"Bish stole yo key!" audio mod would be sweet too.

Silverhks 04-10-2012 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bladesamurai (Post 179740)
It definitely does. While looking at the demo car yesterday the car continually beeped and had a "key is not in the car" sort of light that was on in the gauge cluster, because the key wasn't in the car.

Cool, I like the idiot light.
Not so big on another reason for the car to beep at me while I'm working on it. door open, lights on, seat belt not latched, etc.

Enough with the beeps

bladesamurai 04-10-2012 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverhks (Post 179782)
Cool, I like the idiot light.
Not so big on another reason for the car to beep at me while I'm working on it. door open, lights on, seat belt not latched, etc.

Enough with the beeps

This was just while the car was running. It won't beep continuously if the car isn't running or in accessory mode.

CLTBRZ 04-10-2012 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sure74 (Post 179651)
Can't say I understand that comment but no need to explain.

Not saying it should turn off the car if you throw the key fob out the window at 100mph but it would be nice if it limited fuel or did something safe to prevent someone from driving it away when parked.

I assume it's referring to the fact that in most states leaving your vehicle running, but unmanned, is against the law (although not a moving violation, since the car is not in motion).

Also, if it works like Subaru's other proximity keys (with a manual) the eBrake activates the "ability" for the car to turn off when the keyfob leaves proximity range (automatic vehicles I assume activate in Park).

This is extremely important when you park in a flat garage and engage 1st gear instead of ebraking like SOME people do... leaving the vehicle running in your garage for hours before you notice...... Personal experience that I wish I didn't have, lol.

If it's like Toyota keyfobs (doubtful) I have no idea as I have no experience with them.

OrbitalEllipses 04-10-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sure74 (Post 179651)
Can't say I understand that comment but no need to explain.

Leaving an unattended vehicle running (idling) is a moving violation. It's worth 1pt on your license and a fine, at least here in Maryland it is.

sure74 04-11-2012 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 179839)
Leaving an unattended vehicle running (idling) is a moving violation. It's worth 1pt on your license and a fine, at least here in Maryland it is.

That is pretty wild, so I guess no remote starts in MD?

OrbitalEllipses 04-11-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sure74 (Post 180411)
That is pretty wild, so I guess no remote starts in MD?

I think it's more along the lines of if a cop catches you. Most people are remote starting in their parking lot or garage, so that seems unlikely. Theoretically though, I suppose a cop could get you for that.

ryun84 04-12-2012 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jenniefrost (Post 181255)
My school has the automobile,I usaually go for this option. I like it, but to be honest, we did not really do too much other than oil changes and tire when I get a car I will probably use the shop but never leave my car.you have got all this thing.

I have no idea what just happened... :iono:

Sportsguy83 04-12-2012 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ryun84 (Post 181257)
I have no idea what just happened... :iono:

Spammers.


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