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86-tundra 10-06-2013 01:26 AM

Tree Sap?
 
Hi all,

I recently moved into an apartment complex in austin. There is no covered parking available. Almost every spot is under trees that I've notice drop sap all over my brand new FR-S..

This sucks. It looks horrible, I have to clean it constantly, and I'm concerned about the paint job.

Does anyone have any experience with this? Do I have any legal standing against the apartment complex for not providing any adequate parking that wont ruin my car's paint job? Is it going to rip the paint off the car if it continues?

Alternatives? Covering the car I guess.. It is a weekend car.

Just wanted some input, thanks !!

Burrcold 10-06-2013 01:39 AM

Legal standing?? Oh wow.

20valvewynn83 10-06-2013 01:50 AM

Advice move or buy a car cover. The apartment does have any obligations to providing any special parking. They are not the ones that made you move in.

Andrew025 10-06-2013 07:12 AM

So my car was parked. There was a windstorm and a few pine cones hit the roof. Do I have any legal standing against that tree? I want to sue the shit out of it.

Muskokan 10-06-2013 07:55 AM

Just don't let it sit on it for to long... Left some on my white pearl for 2 days and a month later and every product in the book, including nail polish remover, I can't get the shit off. :(

I'd opticoat as soon as possible, and yea the car cover also sounds like a necessity.

PSJohnDoe 10-06-2013 12:18 PM

Consult your attorney, the most you're going to get is the right to break the lease without penalty, though. Talk to the manager of the complex about it, see if they'll find a spot for you somewhere the trees aren't hanging over or ask to be let out of your lease so you can find an apartment complex that works for you.

Burrcold 10-06-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PSJohnDoe (Post 1254099)
Consult your attorney, the most you're going to get is the right to break the lease without penalty, though. Talk to the manager of the complex about it, see if they'll find a spot for you somewhere the trees aren't hanging over or ask to be let out of your lease so you can find an apartment complex that works for you.

Why would he be given the right to break the lease?? The apartment complex did nothing wrong.

86-tundra 10-06-2013 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 1254106)
Why would he be given the right to break the lease?? The apartment complex did nothing wrong.

Not sure you understand how apartments work.

My phrase 'legal standing' really means 'can I break my lease'

Kind of sad, though. These forums are filled with trolls. How am I supposed to know that every parking spot at my apartment has trees that drop sap? How am I supposed to just move? I'm in a 12 month lease, just like most any other apartment...

86-tundra 10-06-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew025 (Post 1253920)
So my car was parked. There was a windstorm and a few pine cones hit the roof. Do I have any legal standing against that tree? I want to sue the shit out of it.

This isn't even relevant, but thanks for posting.

Burrcold 10-06-2013 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by trevorovert (Post 1254366)
Not sure you understand how apartments work.

My phrase 'legal standing' really means 'can I break my lease'

Kind of sad, though. These forums are filled with trolls. How am I supposed to know that every parking spot at my apartment has trees that drop sap? How am I supposed to just move? I'm in a 12 month lease, just like most any other apartment...

Are you saying I'm a troll?? Really that's funny.

Do I know how apartments work? Yes I actually do. I own and manage a company that specifies in just this.

You could get out if your lease if the landlord allows you, but "legally" they don't have to at all. It's not their fault either that sap from trees goes on your car. Sorry it just doesn't work like that.

86-tundra 10-06-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 1254396)
Are you saying I'm a troll?? Really that's funny.

Do I know how apartments work? Yes I actually do. I own and manage a company that specifies in just this.

You could get out if your lease if the landlord allows you, but "legally" they don't have to at all. It's not their fault either that sap from trees goes on your car. Sorry it just doesn't work like that.

:thanks:

Great input. I really appreciate your posts. Your canadian perspectives really offer great insight on the issue.

PSJohnDoe 10-06-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 1254396)
You could get out if your lease if the landlord allows you, but "legally" they don't have to at all. It's not their fault either that sap from trees goes on your car. Sorry it just doesn't work like that.

The apartment complex owns the trees and it's unlikely that they are ignorant of the issue. Whether or not you can use this to break the lease is not something I can say (thus the consult your attorney bit). Approach the apartment manager first (preferably using a method that helps you document the discussion), explain the situation, ask what they can do to help. If they come back with something like not my problem you can choose to accept or seek professional legal advice.

The fact is that their trees are causing harm and you can attach a value to the harm that is being done. Best of luck with dealing with the issue.

Burrcold 10-06-2013 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by trevorovert (Post 1254711)
:thanks:

Great input. I really appreciate your posts. Your canadian perspectives really offer great insight on the issue.

No problem. Enjoy your screwed up sappy paint job.

Andrew025 10-07-2013 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PSJohnDoe (Post 1254714)
The fact is that their trees are causing harm and you can attach a value to the harm that is being done. Best of luck with dealing with the issue.

Unless the trees are in very poor condition with very large branches with unnecessary overhang and/or have a risk of falling and hurting someone/something, they're going to tell this guy to go pound sand.

86-tundra 10-07-2013 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSJohnDoe (Post 1254714)
The apartment complex owns the trees and it's unlikely that they are ignorant of the issue. Whether or not you can use this to break the lease is not something I can say (thus the consult your attorney bit). Approach the apartment manager first (preferably using a method that helps you document the discussion), explain the situation, ask what they can do to help. If they come back with something like not my problem you can choose to accept or seek professional legal advice.

The fact is that their trees are causing harm and you can attach a value to the harm that is being done. Best of luck with dealing with the issue.

This. Thank you for constructive feedback like this.

Myv 10-07-2013 01:59 PM

I'd buy a car cover, but a good one, I heard poor quality ones could scratch your car.

Definitely get your car opti-coated asap, gives you easier time cleaning the tree sap plus I noticed it protects from micro scratches and swirls after washing (I use 2 bucket wash and microfiber/chamois to dry, but I still notice water 'swirls' after drying but they don't stay after the leftover water completely evaporates).

OrangeJuleas 10-07-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Burrcold (Post 1254396)
Are you saying I'm a troll?? Really that's funny.

Do I know how apartments work? Yes I actually do. I own and manage a company that specifies in just this.

You could get out if your lease if the landlord allows you, but "legally" they don't have to at all. It's not their fault either that sap from trees goes on your car. Sorry it just doesn't work like that.

That is unhelpful advice, and I am not considering you a troll. It is apartment complexes run by people who don't care that made me swear off ever renting one again. I would rather live in the street than give one red cent to an apartment with apathetic landlords. I have also made it my personal duty to denounce every apartment complex that has made it their policy to not quite give a rat's ass about the people that pay their salaries.

I know managing an apartment complex can be tough, believe me, my girlfriend used to manage a 20 unit complex, but this is not the correct way of managing a pet, let alone people who need shelter. I hope that you're not trying to tell us that your management company "specializes" in treating people poorly when they have a simple request.

That being said, @trevorovert, there's really nothing you can do. Short of asking them to relocate to a space where this isn't an issue (and that depends on how nice they are feeling that day), you signed the lease and you don't get to pick your parking. That's just the way it goes. Hell, if a branch fell directly onto your car, they wouldn't be responsible for the damage unless you could prove that they were negligent. I'd say for you to document the issue with pictures, then try to bring up the paint issue with Toyota/Scion. If they tell you the issue causing the paint to prematurely fail (which they most likely will), then you just might have a case. It will be a long battle for you. Sorry bud.

Otherwise, invest in a car cover that protects from physical damage (this can also cause swirls in the paint job so get one that fits!). Your car is an investment, you should be protecting it anyway.

86-tundra 10-11-2013 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeJuleas (Post 1256009)
That is unhelpful advice, and I am not considering you a troll. It is apartment complexes run by people who don't care that made me swear off ever renting one again. I would rather live in the street than give one red cent to an apartment with apathetic landlords. I have also made it my personal duty to denounce every apartment complex that has made it their policy to not quite give a rat's ass about the people that pay their salaries.

I know managing an apartment complex can be tough, believe me, my girlfriend used to manage a 20 unit complex, but this is not the correct way of managing a pet, let alone people who need shelter. I hope that you're not trying to tell us that your management company "specializes" in treating people poorly when they have a simple request.

That being said, @trevorovert, there's really nothing you can do. Short of asking them to relocate to a space where this isn't an issue (and that depends on how nice they are feeling that day), you signed the lease and you don't get to pick your parking. That's just the way it goes. Hell, if a branch fell directly onto your car, they wouldn't be responsible for the damage unless you could prove that they were negligent. I'd say for you to document the issue with pictures, then try to bring up the paint issue with Toyota/Scion. If they tell you the issue causing the paint to prematurely fail (which they most likely will), then you just might have a case. It will be a long battle for you. Sorry bud.

Otherwise, invest in a car cover that protects from physical damage (this can also cause swirls in the paint job so get one that fits!). Your car is an investment, you should be protecting it anyway.

Thanks for the input. I've contacted management and they understand my concerns. There are car ports, but they are dedicated to specific units. I asked if it was possibly to transfer the car port to my unit.. otherwise I'll consider transferring within the apartment complex. Also looking at purchasing a car cover since I only drive my FR-S on the weekends. Anyone got any tips on a good cover?:thanks:

TRD_86 10-11-2013 07:30 PM

There is big pine tree from my neighbor drip potka dot like orange/brownish all over my white car. I have to constantly clean it with towel every week w/ towel. This is insane. I'm worried the paint layer will be worn and fade out.
Are there any good suggestion for type of spray cleaner to get at local auto shop to get? it take crazy amount of time to go over dot by dot after car wash.

FRSfan111 10-13-2013 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TRD_86 (Post 1265327)
There is big pine tree from my neighbor drip potka dot like orange/brownish all over my white car. I have to constantly clean it with towel every week w/ towel. This is insane. I'm worried the paint layer will be worn and fade out.
Are there any good suggestion for type of spray cleaner to get at local auto shop to get? it take crazy amount of time to go over dot by dot after car wash.

It might sound dumb but it works wonders for me. I have to park my car under trees at work and once in a while I get tree sap.
Turtle wax makes a bug and tar remover spray. I spray it on the sap and I mean I spray heavy. I let it sit for about 10 min. Meanwhile I boil a pot of water. After the 10min or so I dip one of my car wash sponges or mits in the boiling hot water and use it to wipe off te sap. The heat helps brake up the sap. Usually takes me only 1-2 passes across the sap and it's all gone.

hanabie 10-13-2013 03:20 AM

rubbing alcohol works wonder. Try to apply a little on a softcloth then rub that tiny tree sap spot. Remember to rewax that spot.


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