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KxngCorey 08-22-2021 01:50 PM

Hey guys I know it's beating a dead horse here. I read this thread top to bottom. My question is how often are we supposed to check tension. I've been checking every day at cold starts
Some days it's super loose. Some days it's tight. I live in NY so idk if the humidity has anything to do with that. Anything helps. Thanks.

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DocRecon 09-15-2021 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KxngCorey (Post 3458870)
Hey guys I know it's beating a dead horse here. I read this thread top to bottom. My question is how often are we supposed to check tension. I've been checking every day at cold starts
Some days it's super loose. Some days it's tight. I live in NY so idk if the humidity has anything to do with that. Anything helps. Thanks.

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I live in Kentucky and have massive temperature swings as well. I was super paranoid about checking my tension after every trip but as I grew more accustomed to my blower, I check it a lot less now. I can hear the differences between when it's too tight or if it's getting too loose.

My car is a DD that sees a lot of stop/go driving, so I don't get many chances to give it hell and have had pretty good luck on keeping the tension where it should be. I may check it now before a long trip or afterwards, or perhaps every other week unless, like I said before, it starts to sound different and I get belt flap.

In my opinion there's no right or wrong amount of times you can check to make sure it's properly tensioned. These are big investments with severe consequences if something goes wrong, so if you want to check it every 1hr, then so be it.

Hope this helps.
Doc

pgranberg11 09-20-2021 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KxngCorey (Post 3458870)
Hey guys I know it's beating a dead horse here. I read this thread top to bottom. My question is how often are we supposed to check tension. I've been checking every day at cold starts
Some days it's super loose. Some days it's tight. I live in NY so idk if the humidity has anything to do with that. Anything helps. Thanks.

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i hate to be super jaded. but this kit is seriously the biggest piece of garbage ever. to make it worse with even worse customer support. you're gonna have to check the tension every time you drive your car.

too tight, you'll wear our the bearings in the pulleys causing the pulleys to wobble. in turn, will cause incorrect belt wear OR snapping the supercharger pulley bolt. so you'll need to get new pulleys, new belt and possible sending in your supercharger for repair for the sc main pulley bolt.

too loose, you'll end up with the same issue.

this kit is absolutely complete garbage and absolute trash. I've had this kit in the early days of ownership of my car and I HATE that people STILL buy this kit. do yourself a favor sell this POS kit and buy yourself a jackson racing supercharger kit.

this kit is literally so bad, i am SHOCKED they still sell these too poor folks who don't know any better. It isn't fair and I hate seeing people buying this kit still and then run into issues, only to be backed up (or not backed up) by non existent customer service.... I wish an admin or mod of this thread would just block/delete this thread because of these reasons.... good luck, if i were you i'd sell this kit and buy a jackson racing superchareger kit if you want a supercharger...

KxngCorey 09-20-2021 04:47 PM

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Actually Joell at Kraftwerks has helped me alot. And I've had the kit on for about 4.months no issues. Tension has been the same. This is with hard pulls and mountain runs. Tension and belt hasn't skipped a beat. I was asking because of what I read on the forums. I'm guessing people were over tighting and that led to the Kraftwerks kit getting a bad rap. Put this in perspective.
5 months no issues and I blew 2.coilpacks. lol Attachment 205437

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pgranberg11 09-20-2021 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KxngCorey (Post 3467337)
Actually Joell at Kraftwerks has helped me alot. And I've had the kit on for about 4.months no issues. Tension has been the same. This is with hard pulls and mountain runs. Tension and belt hasn't skipped a beat. I was asking because of what I read on the forums. I'm guessing people were over tighting and that led to the Kraftwerks kit getting a bad rap. Put this in perspective.
5 months no issues and I blew 2.coilpacks. lol Attachment 205437

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if mountain runs are what you consider hard driving and works then congratulations. I took this kit to the track and had several failures after getting guidance with their customer service on what to tension the belt at. You must also live in an area with not a lot of temperature swings. living in chicago you'd see a lot of and have to adjust appropriately. glad the kit works out for you, but if you ever intend on tracking it, absolutely forget it. It will not survive 5+ 20 minute sessions lap after lap. This was back in 2015, like I said, I'm jaded and I just hate the fact people buy this kit because there are SO MANY better options that this garbage.

KxngCorey 09-20-2021 04:53 PM

I live in NYC. Crazy temp swings . I have a track day coming up soon and I'll keep y'all posted. But bear mountain isn't a slouch lol

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NotAMiata 10-05-2021 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pgranberg11 (Post 3467338)
if mountain runs are what you consider hard driving and works then congratulations. I took this kit to the track and had several failures after getting guidance with their customer service on what to tension the belt at. You must also live in an area with not a lot of temperature swings. living in chicago you'd see a lot of and have to adjust appropriately. glad the kit works out for you, but if you ever intend on tracking it, absolutely forget it. It will not survive 5+ 20 minute sessions lap after lap. This was back in 2015, like I said, I'm jaded and I just hate the fact people buy this kit because there are SO MANY better options that this garbage.

Ontario Canada here, I have the 30mm kit on the c30 I bought used, I've done 5x 20 minute track days so far on my kit as well as daily driving for over a year now, haven't had a single issue and we go from 40c+ to -30c. The guy I bought it from is on the east coast and didn't have any issues with it either. Maybe we just happened to get a good kit. I keep the belt pretty "loose" the guy i bought it from said to pinch the belt between index and thumb in the middle of the longest run, and be able to give it a 90 degree twist without much resistance. It also shouldn't make much of a "whining" noise as well. The guide kraftwerks gives you for tensioning the belt is not correct.

On the topic I was thinking of making an auto tensioner system for these kits, would anyone be interested in something like that?

KxngCorey 10-05-2021 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NotAMiata (Post 3471134)
Ontario Canada here, I have the 30mm kit on the c30 I bought used, I've done 5x 20 minute track days so far on my kit as well as daily driving for over a year now, haven't had a single issue and we go from 40c+ to -30c. The guy I bought it from is on the east coast and didn't have any issues with it either. Maybe we just happened to get a good kit. I keep the belt pretty "loose" the guy i bought it from said to pinch the belt between index and thumb in the middle of the longest run, and be able to give it a 90 degree twist without much resistance. It also shouldn't make much of a "whining" noise as well. The guide kraftwerks gives you for tensioning the belt is not correct.



On the topic I was thinking of making an auto tensioner system for these kits, would anyone be interested in something like that?

Yea I haven't had any issues yet. At all. Also... I'll be interested

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KxngCorey 12-01-2021 10:14 AM

Posting an update. Still no issues. Modlist is

Deatschwerks 700cc injectors @Xero-Limit flex fuel kit
Kraftwerks Supercharger with track pack
Custom oil cooler
Open flash header
Generic over pipe
Berk Front Pipe
Invidia Q300
ACT 6puck
Lightweight flywheel

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Nottcute 01-14-2022 05:52 PM

Need help
 
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Pulley that’s connected to the unit head keeps snapping off, this is the second time this has happened . Any ideas ?

Kboi 01-19-2022 12:03 AM

I am trying to get support and opinions on this rotrex blower. It makes this noise at idle and I can hear it even with the hood down. I am possibly going to purchase this kit for my car and I wanted to know if this noise is considered normal for a rotrex?

https://youtube.com/shorts/ssCGJgzyAlo?feature=share

DocRecon 03-07-2022 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kboi (Post 3497828)
I am trying to get support and opinions on this rotrex blower. It makes this noise at idle and I can hear it even with the hood down. I am possibly going to purchase this kit for my car and I wanted to know if this noise is considered normal for a rotrex?

https://youtube.com/shorts/ssCGJgzyAlo?feature=share


It's hard to say from the video but it kind of does in a way. The video seems to sound too metallic in the beginning but when closer to the filter it sounds better. Best thing to do is find one in person at a garage or car show, IMO.

Centrifugal superchargers are for the most part quiet inside the car when driving and when compared to other superchargers. They do make a little more rougher noise at idle though until you get up to around 2,000-3,000RPM and then they start sounding good. When punching it and at full acceleration you'll get a beautiful and distinct whine out of it.

My Kraftwerks C38 makes a slight "gear" noise at idle from the belt turning the gears (not the head unit impeller) but it's low and it does make a vacuum cleaner sound where it's sucking the air through the filter. Overall, it should not be too loud or screeching at idle. A lot of the complaints you see on here are when someone has the belt tension way too tight.

I've had my kit now for almost a year and have never had any problems with it, or the tension once I learned to set it correctly. The instructions say to set it at a certain length but they're outdated and wrong (unless Kraftwerks have fixed the issue.....I doubt it, though). Mine is set to almost double what the instructions say at 29.7mm and it sounds great with no belt flap. It's also stayed there without me having to adjust it every day, like some reviews say.

I'm rambling on but just so you know this is a great kit and looks beautiful on the car. May I also suggest Zach at CounterSpace Garage to do your tuning. The man is a god and helped me to not blow my car up after multiple engine mods. :party0030:

DocRecon 03-07-2022 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nottcute (Post 3496862)
Pulley that’s connected to the unit head keeps snapping off, this is the second time this has happened . Any ideas ?

Something is SERIOUSLY wrong! It shouldn't be that close to your pulleys.

Mykii 04-25-2022 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nottcute (Post 3496862)
Pulley that’s connected to the unit head keeps snapping off, this is the second time this has happened . Any ideas ?

I've had this happen twice to me. One was because the shop had over tightened the 6 hex bolts and stripped the hub that it screwed into. Two was because I did the same thing and didn't have locktite on them. I had found out that I had been over-tightening my belt (the Rotrex should be silent at idle, and the whine was the first indication of the Rotrex's hub, sunshaft and internals being stressed out). Order a replacement hub from Kraftwerk's, get an impact gun and take it to the hub on the head unit and get locktite for the hub. Then, adjust the belt (typically loosen) so that it gives you a just a little grunt/beltslap upon acceleration, has no slip, and has no whine, when the car is cold. As the car warms up, the belt tightens up and by the time you're at running temp, all should be good.

I've done this and my KW C38 kit has been happy as a clam!

Sawvyeej 06-08-2022 01:19 PM

Hey guys, looking to see if I can get any assistance. Just installed a low miles c38 kit I bought from a member. Install was fine and it runs well. My tuner is using OFT to tune it on 91 since I can't afford ecutek at the moment and still running stock injectors, clutch etc. We're having problems where this c38 will want to go beyond 12lbs before redline so it bucks. I have the datazap here:

https://datazap.me/u/sawvyeej86gmail...og=0&data=1-10

What size pulley does the standard c38 come with? What size is recommended to stay at 10lbs? Would like to hear some replies before I take her off again. Thanks!

Mykii 08-02-2022 09:11 PM

Standard C28 rev 2 and rev 3 are 95mm, the first revision is 90 I think... Not sure what is going to keep it at 10psi, not sure if there's a larger pulley :O

KxngCorey 12-22-2022 04:56 PM

Idler Bolt
 
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Supercharger and belt still running good. But having an issue with the Idler pulley backing out. The Idler pulley bolt snapped. I replaced it with a longer Bolt, Placed white out on the tip of the bolt and test drove it for about 5 mins. I noticed that the bolt again backed it self out slightly. How tight is tight with this idler bolt and and tips on keeping it tight? Like everyone else, this would be the perfect kit if the tensioner was automatic lmao

projek_01 01-11-2023 11:37 AM

^not sure if you already fixed it but the threads on that part look pretty messed up. That might be the reason why it backs out under load. The longer bolt might be bottoming out and not holding the idler pully tightly.

1. check the threads.
2. get the correct bolt length.

Like most people, I ruined my first C30 due to the improper belt tension instructions and also had the pulley fall off because I didn't use lock-tite. After leaving the belt on the looser side of things, I have had no issues in hot or cold weather. Easy $2000 mistake.

KxngCorey 01-29-2023 10:16 AM

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I know this is a longshot. but does anybody have this part that they want to get rid of. Spare or otherwise? Was doing some maint. and saw that when my bolt snapped it turned the mounting plate into some trash.

pkat696 05-22-2023 02:07 PM

California referee smog check?
 
Anyone in California pass a referee smog check with this kit? If so, any tips and tricks?

GraysBRZ 08-11-2023 09:47 PM

Tunes for kraftwerks c-38 kit for 2017 BRZ
 
Looking for information on where I could get a tune for the kit. I want to purchase the kit and do the install however I have not been able to find anything related to a base map for it.

KxngCorey 08-11-2023 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GraysBRZ (Post 3589549)
Looking for information on where I could get a tune for the kit. I want to purchase the kit and do the install however I have not been able to find anything related to a base map for it.

I'm 10,000 miles in tuned with xero limit

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GraysBRZ 08-24-2023 09:12 PM

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I'm 10,000 miles in tuned with xero limit

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How would i go about getting a base tune form them?

Apolllo 12-07-2023 02:27 PM

Does anyone know what the difference is between the 13-16 kit and the 17-20 kit? Would you be able to get a 13-16 kit fit a 2018?

I asked this same question to Kraftwerks, and they just came back with "Intercooler piping is different" which I figured, but didnt answer my question on if it would fit. I dont mind cutting or making a few modifications to get the piping to fit...I just dont want to have the intercooler pipes sticking out the side of the bumper or something lol

jflogerzi 01-07-2024 03:48 PM

the front bumpers are different and thus a slight modification will be needed in my guess with piping

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Apolllo 01-08-2024 07:54 PM

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the front bumpers are different and thus a slight modification will be needed in my guess with piping

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Seemed like it fit up pretty well. The intercooler piping on the driver side was snug, and hitting some metal frame, but I just put some pieces of rubber between them. Other than that seemed fine.

Unfortunately, the Rotrex unit was be bad and seized up. The metal fins busted and made their way through the intake tubes, intercooler, and tiny pieces somehow made it to the throttle body which threw multiple codes in my car. Got burned buying used trying to save a few bucks :bonk:


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