More reports that Scion FR-S Convertible on indefinite hold
 

Via WhatCar

Dont know how i feel about that never was into convertibles, but now that the convertible is out i wonder what will be the focus instead.

While I have zero interest in a drop top variant, IMO despite the "enthusiast" clamouring for "moar powa" a convertible model would have brought in significantly more profit from the female demographic based on attractiveness alone.

No convertibles.. There arent even in stlye and the lfa, successor supra, ae86 never came in convertibles. Why ruin the tradition..

Surprised but no other reactions. Wonder if this means they're pulling back from the idea that this car will start a "family" of models and the 86's lifespan may not be as long as enthusiasts had hoped.

That's a bit funny because a second car was running around in Japan with the Parade just a day ago.

Why would you make two concept cars just to shelve the project, also there is a speculation that there's been some testing of the Open in Japan. Thus this Red Car. There so far is 3 Open concept One made for the commercial, one shown earlier this year, and this one that seems like it's ready to be rolled out Running in Japan.

It could really well be what the magazine said, but it wouldn't' make sense to run this car at a big 86 event to show it off just to shelve it.

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They're made, might as well show them off a bit :D

Top UP?!?! :barf:

none of those cars ever came with a boxer motor either

So what. They all have different engines anyways...

Idk if I would get a convertible one :/ I like mine. Does anybody know if dealerships will do a reflash to fix the 13 frs/brz idle problem and torque curve dip? I'd like to do that because I heard all the 14s have it

I meant the 14s are all fixed and reflashed^

The platform was not designed with room for a convertible mechanism to fold/operate. That said, Toyota is unlikely to market a vehicle with a significantly compromised design.

If Toyota was serious about the convertible .... The platform would have already been PLANNED for both coupe and vert. One member opined that a vert car would bring in "women" buyers. Maybe...... small sample size, but both my teenage daughters do not like my FRS. Too small, too rough, too loud is their teenage comments.

my point is that being a convertible has isnt going to add or take away any tradition. especially considering that the frs took its naming structure from the mrs which just so happens to be a convertible.

I think it would've been a terrible seller for two reasons!

1. It would probably base at $28-29,500 and folks complain about the fix roofs price already.

2. The MX5 ND model is coming!

I wonder what a 10 cylinder boxer would sound like....:burnrubber:

Half of the twins I see on the road are driven by women in my experience. Teens/early 20s women.

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Well...flat 12.

You heard wrong.

SUPRA!!!!!

Seems to me like they were ready to produce convertible versions but market research told them it wouldn't be popular enough.

I mean, look at the reactions on this forum. We're all fanboys and even we're saying "yeah it would be cool I guess, but I wouldn't buy one" lol

A 30k convertible with extra weight, less practicality and same horsepower? Delayed until the address the larger displacement option or forced induction application to fix power to weight.

It's too early. When sales start to go down, they will market it to bring in some extra revenue

I highly doubt sales will start to go down, not any time soon at least.

Seems exactly like the last old report from months ago. Think this journalist is just late to the party. You see this quite a bit on the interwebs these days.

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Hey.

I would probably buy a BRZ convertible if they made one. I'm not one of these hardcore enthusiasts that looks to shave half a second off a lap time every weekend. As long as the weight didn't increase by a ton (keep it around 3,000), having a very very similarly driving car with the top down would just make the experience better to me. I could see it making sense for them to wait till the power increase and then add the weight of the convertible. I suspect that's what they're gonna do.

I had my dad in the car last weekend. He's over 200 pounds, and I could instantly feel the difference. The car dragged and didn't turn as well. So adding 200+ pounds to this car would really kill it. This car's only saving factor is the low weight, take that away and you have nothing.

Not quite! That can rev to 8k + and make 40 extra horses. But you're very close however. But I think a used S2000 would cost half the price rendering some folks to buy that instead especially with its legendary Honda reliability.

I'm not a vert fan at all, but I do feel like there are a lot of people out there that would buy a vert twin over a miata.

This is the one thing I hate about these lightweight sporty cars with small engines! Add unnecessary weight by driving with heavy people and they feel shitty in the handling dept. And don't get me started on the acceleration dept...lol

Yeah, known to eat their own transmissions, so reliable. :lol:

But isn't that the case with just about every manual tranny now-a-days? I see a lot of FRS/BRZ owners also pissed about the tranny quality.

The future is AUTO

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Not really, 2nd gear hard wood is common in a lot of manual cars. But has there been any true transmission failures yet? Only time will well.

I do not hope for a long lifespan. This car is going to work best on a short sweet run. At 25k, if production continues into a second generation or multiple models they will be a dime a dozen. Perhaps a successor but I hope that would be it.

Why do you not want these to be a dime a dozen? The more fun affordable sports cars the better in my opinion, it means other auto makers will chime in to try and take the market and the more options we'll have to chose from. Not to mention aftermarket support to keep these cars ticking for decades to come instead of having to come up with bubblegum and paperclip solutions to issues down the road because the OEM abandoned the platform early.

There is a very specific reason that the FR-S Convertible as well as other hardware-intensive, beyond-accessories, modified versions from being approved for production. For one, there is a big reason of this... Subaru is making XV and Forester on the same production line at the same plant, and the two cars have just debuted and is a a huge demand as one of the most successful Subaru cars in this decade. So there isn't a huge capacity to make more FR-S/86/BRZ that's already on backorder for almost every nation and region outside the USA.

There are other reasons but this is one of the biggest delays as of now.

And no, the project has not been canned or shelved, but is pretty much alive, and Toyota is simply looking for a solution and some time, so that more drastic methods don't have to be taken to make it significantly more expensive or complicated. Remember, that the President of Toyota Motor Company, is very fond of this car and that things will not go down without a big enough reason, and this is not a big enough reason. :)

the FT-86 Open concept will be on display at the Johannesburg International motor show later in this month.