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Gundark 09-23-2013 01:57 AM

Valenti rear fog alternate wiring
 
I ordered the valenti smoked rear fog light from modbargains.com to match the valenti tails. They were extremely helpful with the order, and shipped on the same day that my order was processed. After receiving the order I contacted modbargains for help regarding an alternate wiring setup to have the V and the LED triangle function seperately. They were nice enough to send back step by step instructions to get it to function exactly as I wanted. Overall it was a great experience and Im very thankful for their help! I think that having the V function without the LED triangle gives a much cleaner look!

The setup below functions as follows:

V on with headlights
LED triangle lights up when brake is depressed with no flashing
Reverse- no changes


headlights on:
http://imageshack.us/a/img834/2927/f98s.jpg

brake depressed:
http://imageshack.us/a/img109/3265/yr09.jpg

night:
http://imageshack.us/a/img7/9910/cvpo.jpg

Instructions:

1. Remove 10 phillips screws from the back of the light.
2. you will see a dark blue wire connecting the V to the LED triangle
3 Remove the blue wire from where its connected to the red wire
- I just cut the wire and left some of the blue hanging there
4. Locate the orange/black wire that goes to a single red wire. This is connected to the LED triangle where "Rev" is written
5. Disconnect the orange/black connecter
6. Leave the orange/black wire alone, it will still be connected to the LED triangle but will not function.
7 Remove connector from the single red wire
8. Connect the single red wire to the blue wire with connector/soldering iron
9. Put the back cover back on.
10. Follow the installation instructions on modbargains website with the important exception that the LIGHT BLUE wire will now connect to the brake (red wire going to tails) and the single red wire will connect to the running lights (blue wire going to tails)


Wiring: The blue wire has been cut from where it originally connected to the red, linking it to the LED triangle. It has been soldered to another blue wire (that modbargains was nice enough to provide) and then connected to what I was referring to above as the "single red wire". This will connect to the blue wire going to the tails.

The red wire seen in the picture controls the LED triangle, and becomes a light blue wire (not in pic), this will connect to your brake (red wire going to tails)

The orange and black wire has been disconnected and I left it just hangin there

http://imageshack.us/a/img163/7044/g7f8.jpg

Hooking into tail lights (red goes to blue, blue goes to red)
http://imageshack.us/a/img841/7228/czen.jpg

Steve201brz 09-23-2013 04:52 PM

thanks for the info, i have the valenti tails and strip too. had them hooked up to be fully on w/ the lights, now it seems they only work when i'm in reverse... so this will help me when i try and figure out what happened with the wiring lol. thanks :w00t:

raytrix 09-23-2013 05:04 PM

Pics would be nice. Great work on doing this wiring. I was looking to do this too but couldn't figure out the exact steps.

B2FiNiTY 09-23-2013 05:17 PM

get some pics / vids up yo !

Gundark 09-23-2013 10:04 PM

Sorry I thought the pictures were working! I'll upload them the correct way when I get home tonight

SPCorBUST 09-24-2013 04:35 AM

I used a connector for the Single Red (previously Orange/Black) to cut Blue wire, the one between the light bar and triangle.

I don't know much about wiring, but I did not see the need to solder the cut Blue wire to the ModBargains provided Blue wire and then solder that to the Single Red wire, so I left it alone, and it seems to be working fine - again though, I am not an electrician by any stretch of the imagination!

For those of you that have Green and Green/Yellow wires instead of the Blue, Red, Yellow, and Black wires for your taillights, here's how I did mine, with Blue to Green and Red to Red:
http://i43.tinypic.com/2repfrm.jpg

Turned out great!
http://i40.tinypic.com/zmxnol.jpg

Note: while this works, it seems like you give up the F1 function for the chance to use the light bar and the triangle separately, one as a brake and the other as a parking light. @Phaedrus29 has indicated in this post that it might still be able work though!

Killerbee 09-24-2013 07:57 AM

I like the looks of it, and thanks for the effort you put in making a DIY. However over here you would probably have the car impounded if you drive with the lights wired like this. Its a shame, as i really looks nice :-(

ModBargains.com 09-24-2013 12:26 PM

Great write up! Thanks for posting that up!

melon 09-24-2013 08:40 PM

@ModBargains.com, For Curiosity sake:

How about a setup with functions as follows:
1. -v- ON with Park Lights ON but not the LED triangle
2. LED triangle lights up only when brake is depressed WITH flashing
3. Usual Reverse Lights.

modena 09-26-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melon (Post 1231850)
@ModBargains.com, For Curiosity sake:

How about a setup with functions as follows:
1. -v- ON with Park Lights ON but not the LED triangle
2. LED triangle lights up only when brake is depressed WITH flashing
3. Usual Reverse Lights.

As stated above and I will buy them:)

randel_07 09-26-2013 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modena (Post 1235166)
As stated above and I will buy them:)

Haha that's easy to do. I'll help you make that happen if you want, or the OP understands how to make that happen, so i'm sure the OP will help as well.

melon 09-26-2013 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melon (Post 1231850)
@ModBargains.com, For Curiosity sake:

How about a setup with functions as follows:
1. -v- ON with Park Lights ON but not the LED triangle
2. LED triangle lights up only when brake is depressed WITH flashing
3. Usual Reverse Lights.

Quote:

Originally Posted by modena (Post 1235166)
As stated above and I will buy them:)


If you read my post properly, what I'm looking for is:
- LED triangle lights up ONLY when brake is depressed WITH flashing.

it's WITH the Flashing or F1 Light Function upon breaking.

what is stated above is NO Flashing...

:bonk::bonk::bonk:

modena 09-26-2013 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melon (Post 1235238)
If you read my post properly, what I'm looking for is:
- LED triangle lights up ONLY when brake is depressed WITH flashing.

it's WITH the Flashing or F1 Light Function upon breaking.

what is stated above is NO Flashing...

:bonk::bonk::bonk:

As you stated:

"LED triangle lights up ONLY when brake is depressed WITH flashing.
it's WITH the Flashing or F1 Light Function upon breaking."

That is what I want:)

melon 09-26-2013 01:19 PM

Hahaha... I thought you stating the answer I was looking for is stated above, the first post. Silly Me...
:bonk::bonk::bonk:

laley81 03-05-2014 01:05 PM

Getting mine literly in 1 hour lol.. I love the way the v style looks. Im having my center triangle completely off. We have the tail light brakes and rear winshield brake light already. too much with the flashing center trianlge. ill post some pics up later.

raytrix 03-05-2014 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modena (Post 1235303)
As you stated:

"LED triangle lights up ONLY when brake is depressed WITH flashing.
it's WITH the Flashing or F1 Light Function upon breaking."

That is what I want:)

Anyone has pics of the wiring to do this style?

raytrix 03-13-2014 12:42 AM

bump to see if anyone figure out how to rewire the triangle to only light up and blink 3 times when you hit the brakes. Don't want the triangle to be on with the parking lights.

tiz22 03-14-2014 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPCorBUST (Post 1230420)
I used a connector for the Single Red (previously Orange/Black) to cut Blue wire, the one between the light bar and triangle.

I don't know much about wiring, but I did not see the need to solder the cut Blue wire to the ModBargains provided Blue wire and then solder that to the Single Red wire, so I left it alone, and it seems to be working fine - again though, I am not an electrician by any stretch of the imagination!

For those of you that have Green and Green/Yellow wires instead of the Blue, Red, Yellow, and Black wires for your taillights, here's how I did mine, with Blue to Green and Red to Red:
http://i43.tinypic.com/2repfrm.jpg

Turned out great!
http://i40.tinypic.com/zmxnol.jpg

Note: while this works, it seems like you give up the F1 function for the chance to use the light bar and the triangle separately, one as a brake and the other as a parking light. @Phaedrus29 has indicated in this post that it might still be able work though!


I notice you have TOMs tails installed...I'm about to install the reverse bar tonight probably but all the DIYs are with valenti tails installed so I'm guessing a few of the steps (wire colors) will be different...

Can you link me an accurate step-by-step DIY/video that does it with TOMs tails? Or can you provide me the steps you took?

:thanks:

raytrix 03-14-2014 03:18 PM

Anyone have a picture of the wiring inside the housing with the LED triangle retaining it's 3 flashing mode when the brakes depressed? I want exactly the way the OP has it setup but with the triple flashing included with the braking.

raytrix 03-17-2014 10:48 PM

Since no one wanted to help. I figured it out with a help of a friend. I believe this is what most people want the setup to be like. With the flashing built-in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gB_...ature=youtu.be

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3792/1...181c93ff_h.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3671/1...5dd80f7b_h.jpg

melon 04-06-2014 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raytrix (Post 1607078)
Since no one wanted to help. I figured it out with a help of a friend. I believe this is what most people want the setup to be like. With the flashing built-in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gB_...ature=youtu.be

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3792/1...181c93ff_h.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3671/1...5dd80f7b_h.jpg

GREAT JOB!!! Could you post how you did the wiring?

shadow017 04-11-2014 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melon (Post 1652165)
GREAT JOB!!! Could you post how you did the wiring?

I ended up having to figure out the wiring myself but thanks to raytrix's video I had to do this to my friends car. I used the OPs instructions for reference.

V on with headlights
LED triangle lights up when brake is depressed with flashing
Reverse- no changes


Instructions:

1. Remove 10 phillips screws from the back of the light.

2. You will see a dark blue wire connecting the V to the LED triangle
http://i.imgur.com/oi18BsO.jpg

3. Remove the Blue and Red wire from where it is connected to the Triangle by either cutting or desoldering it.
http://i.imgur.com/1sEOROi.jpg

4. Solder the Blue and Red wires together. Then cover exposed wire with electrical tape or heatshrink tubing.
http://i.imgur.com/qaAQShV.jpg

5. Now solder a new wire from the Triangle to the Orange/Black Wire.
http://i.imgur.com/QtdRDk5.jpg

6. Check your work. Make sure there are no loose connections and test it out.
http://i.imgur.com/NkHiIh0.jpg?1

7. Reassemble fully and have a beer. You earned it.
http://i.imgur.com/iDPTXSA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QnXKh2o.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9mL3Yf3.jpg

headlikeahole 04-11-2014 03:42 AM

I wonder how many idiots drive around with the rear fog on because they think it looks cool. Anoying the shit out of everyone else on the road.

cdo221 04-11-2014 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headlikeahole (Post 1665101)
I wonder how many idiots drive around with the rear fog on because they think it looks cool. Anoying the shit out of everyone else on the road.

How's it annoying? the lower V isn't blinding or anything. Same thing as driving around during the day time with low beam on... not required by law but I think it makes cars more aware of your presence (kinda like DRLs).

headlikeahole 04-11-2014 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdo221 (Post 1665945)
How's it annoying? the lower V isn't blinding or anything. Same thing as driving around during the day time with low beam on... not required by law but I think it makes cars more aware of your presence (kinda like DRLs).

The lower V isn't a fog light. I'm talking about the actual fog light that is 3 times brighter then your normal tail lights (about the same as brake lights).

cdo221 04-11-2014 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by headlikeahole (Post 1666076)
The lower V isn't a fog light. I'm talking about the actual fog light that is 3 times brighter then your normal tail lights (about the same as brake lights).

Ah I see, misunderstood you:bonk:

Efferalgan 04-19-2014 06:41 PM

Does anyone know how to the wiring so that the triangle left as the fog light but the V-shaped light turns on when the headlights are on (together with the taillights)?

Frank5364 05-10-2014 08:40 PM

Is there a way to this without re wiring and soldering the actual lamp?

SPCorBUST 05-10-2014 10:45 PM

Vampire taps should do it. I didn't solder anything.

Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk

Frank5364 05-10-2014 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPCorBUST (Post 1728794)
Vampire taps should do it. I didn't solder anything.

Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk

What you mean?? Can you help me:respekt:

SPCorBUST 05-11-2014 05:27 AM

Well the way I have it is where the V is on with parking lights, the middle light comes on with braking but does not flash. I didn't want that. If you want the F1 flashing, you might do it a bit differently.

You can see in post #6 what the vampire taps look like. Been running it since that day, zero issues.

Frank5364 05-11-2014 08:54 AM

So you connected it to the car's wires not the tail lights right?

SPCorBUST 05-13-2014 01:28 PM

Not sure I know what you mean?

Seungify 07-31-2014 07:47 PM

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Attachment 86708

So, mine doesn't come with the extra blue wire and it seems my light is mapped differently... Anyone know how to follow post #22 with my setup?

Efferalgan 09-14-2014 05:04 PM

Thanks again for the DIY. Works flawlessly. Here is the video on mine after the mod:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXNvwhIJHTQ"]Valentis with F1 Brake Light Function - YouTube[/ame]

blackfireball5 10-19-2014 04:22 PM

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Hey guys, i opened up my reverse light to do the rewiring for v on with park lights, triangle with flashing on braking, and normal reverse. But my wiring is slightly different than what some previous poster showed. My red and orange wire are flipped. How should i proceed?

blackfireball5 10-19-2014 06:02 PM

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This is what i ended up doing. Haven't tested yet. But i believe it is right.

blackfireball5 10-22-2014 10:24 PM

The wiring above worked for me for others references.

ANTLAY 10-26-2014 01:26 AM

OK,so I think I messed up... By unplugging all my connector's b4 I started the rewiring process. My light was just like the one above.. Any help? One is obvious since it has two females and one male coming from the light,the other 2 not sure

ANTLAY 10-26-2014 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackfireball5 (Post 1994687)
The wiring above worked for me for others references.


Got the plugs figured out now I think,now my question is did you follow the modbargains video instructions for the rest of the install?


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