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feldy 09-19-2013 11:59 AM

Advance Mutiplier resetting on restart?
 
So I got a new flash in the other day from fa20club. It had some fixes in it from Ecutek. We were unsure what the fixes were.

Also now I have been noticing the Advance multiplier is resetting to .7 on every restart of the car and it builds it self up back to 1 as I drive the car. But it just resets when I shut the car off. I don't remember this happening before. Am I nuts?

King Tut 09-19-2013 12:26 PM

That does seem nuts. It should only reset to 1 after a reflash and then should settle to whatever it needs to be and change in small increments over time as it needs to. Perhaps they found a different way of calculating it or a different location in the ROM to datalog it. @FA20Club.com

Shiv@Openflash 09-19-2013 12:32 PM

The default IAM setting on the stock ROM is 0.70. Looks like it is unchanged with that flash.

feldy 09-19-2013 12:34 PM

It goes back up to 1 over a few miles of beating on the car. But when the car shuts off it restarts at .7

I did get logs last night to @FA20Club.com and this morning as well showing the Value reset.

Wonder if Ecutek botched the patch.

mad_sb 09-19-2013 01:06 PM

My car has done this since day 1 as well. It will keep the learned multiplier for a few mi utes after I key off but if it sits too long (couple hours) it will always reset to the initial IAM value set in the rom, be it 1.0 or .7 or whatever I set it too. The fact that it is working its way up to 1 is good though.

Glad Im not the only one seeing this behaviour. My original to. ID was ZA1JA00C


Ohh and I have never used ecuwreck, only brzedit and open flash. Seems very odd to me because IAM is long term k rock control. If you live in an area with crappy gas its gonna have to knock before the I am works down every day....

feldy 09-19-2013 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mad_sb (Post 1221889)
My car has done this since day 1 as well. It will keep the learned multiplier for a few mi utes after I key off but if it sits too long (couple hours) it will always reset to the initial I am value set in the rom. The fact that it is working its way up to 1 is good though.

Glad Im not the only one seeing this behaviour. My original to. ID was ZA1JA00C


Ohh and I have never used ecuwreck, only brzedit and open flash.


Hmm... I don't know why I never noticed this before. maybe since I normally do my logging in the afternoon after the car has been driven on and warmed up.
Hey @mad_sb can you pm me your email. I would like to send you some logs from last night and this morning and see what you think. I have the same logs off to Tony to check out. But dudes so damn busy making front pipes for me :) and turbos and what not for all you ballers. hehe He needs a clone.

King Tut 09-19-2013 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mad_sb (Post 1221889)
My car has done this since day 1 as well. It will keep the learned multiplier for a few mi utes after I key off but if it sits too long (couple hours) it will always reset to the initial IAM value set in the rom, be it 1.0 or .7 or whatever I set it too. The fact that it is working its way up to 1 is good though.

Glad Im not the only one seeing this behaviour. My original to. ID was ZA1JA00C

Interesting. I have never seen that happen on my ROM, but now I will check it to verify.

feldy 09-19-2013 01:19 PM

Yea its weird I have had a flash on my car since March and I don't ever remember it doing that. I guess I can reflash to a previous tune and see if that does it as well.

feldy 09-19-2013 02:21 PM

just went and looked at my old logs... nothing to see here. it seems like its been this way the entire time at least for me since march.

mad_sb 09-19-2013 02:25 PM

Do you happen to have any logs of the car before it was flashed? I have a hard time believing this is the factory behaviour.. Perhaps if it works its way down low enough it will stick or switch to a lower initial value..

feldy 09-19-2013 02:35 PM

No. And even so the IAM values are hidden from what I can gather on the stock rom are they not?

I have logs from a stock flash but nothing before I flashed in march .

I sent tony a email saying never mind after seeing all my old logs did the same thing. Hope he still takes a look at it and let me know whats up.

mad_sb 09-19-2013 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by feldy (Post 1222090)
No. And even so the IAM values are hidden from what I can gather on the stock rom are they not?

I have logs from a stock flash but nothing before I flashed in march .

I sent tony a email saying never mind after seeing all my old logs did the same thing. Hope he still takes a look at it and let me know whats up.

Nahh, brzedit logger can read iam on an unflashed car i believe.. Just thinking it could possibly be something that both ecutek and brzedit change in the roms they distribute as "stock" Then again i think all brzedit does is embed your username in the header area of the rom so..... :bonk:

feldy 09-20-2013 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut (Post 1221911)
Interesting. I have never seen that happen on my ROM, but now I will check it to verify.


Did you ever check to see if this happening to you? I'm wondering if all the ecutek flashes do this? I haven't heard back from Tony @FA20Club.com about it yet. So I want to assume this is normal? maybe from a safey issue? Start it at .7 and if I have bad gas no harm no foul? but if the gas is good and the car likes what it seems then it raises timing back up?

DSTL 09-20-2013 04:53 PM

Not sure the cause but on Visconti tunes I've always had both min and max of 1 except when I had a bad fuel. Never reset to .7 though, always starts at 1. I have seen it as low as .52 on bad gas.


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