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-   -   You're doing it wrong: common driver errors (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47016)

juliog 09-18-2013 04:49 AM

You're doing it wrong: common driver errors
 
http://www.motoiq.com/MagazineArticl...ng-Issues.aspx

alan.chalkley 09-18-2013 07:36 AM

The worst one that i see every day , is driving with one hand inside the steering wheel.
They wonder why they lose control if they slam on the brakes and the car slides.

Captain Snooze 09-18-2013 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by alan.chalkley (Post 1219233)
The worst one that i see every day ,

You go to the track every day?

Anthony 09-18-2013 09:15 AM

It’s because you leapt off the brake pedal like it was your high school girlfriend when you heard the garage door opening.

7thgear 09-18-2013 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 1219257)
You go to the track every day?

he didn't bother reading the article

whaap 09-18-2013 11:37 AM

I still think the most common error made by drivers is their not knowing how to properly adjust their side view mirrors. So many complain of blind spots when, mirrors properly adjusted, there are none.

Dave-ROR 09-18-2013 11:41 AM

Funny, I know that Sentra and it's driver. While it was heavily loaded there I'm not quite sure it was understeering :)

Brake release is key. I and others have mentioned release properties in brake pad discussions for that reason :thumbup:

CSG Mike 09-18-2013 12:15 PM

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If you unwind the wheel 10% then only add 10% throttle, unwind 20% add 20% throttle, and so on until your full throttle in a straight line.
This is the hardest concept for people to grasp, IMO.

7thgear 09-18-2013 12:30 PM

people that stab the throttle during slaloms make me go \ O.o /

SkullWorks 09-18-2013 12:56 PM

I saw that yesterday, it was a good read but not as in depth as I might have hoped. But all good things to keep in mind.

Element Tuning 09-18-2013 02:32 PM

I've been working on the last part about braking for a long time. I find it fairly easy to look through the turn in the FRS (slower speeds) but when I'm doing 165 MPH into a 180 degree turn, fighting car control under braking, it's so difficult to look past your turn in! I get it right sometimes and it's magic :)

CSG Mike 09-18-2013 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Element Tuning (Post 1219899)
I've been working on the last part about braking for a long time. I find it fairly easy to look through the turn in the FRS (slower speeds) but when I'm doing 165 MPH into a 180 degree turn, fighting car control under braking, it's so difficult to look past your turn in! I get it right sometimes and it's magic :)

Where do I buy a set of these CF nuts?

Captain Snooze 09-18-2013 06:40 PM

"Here’s the way it’s supposed to work............. keeping that apex in your peripheral vision."
My problem (and its not just related to track driving) is that 'tho my peripheral vision is fine (that is, my eye sight works at the peripheries) my brain only concentrates on what I'm looking at directly. So if I'm looking through the cars' windows in front of me looking for brake lights up in front I might not be aware of the car directly in front of me slowing down. Another example, I'm looking (not glancing) at my revision mirror and my peripheral vision sees the car in front slowing down but I'm concentrating on my mirror so I'm not aware of the car in front. Just sitting at my monitor here, if I wiggle fingers at the sides of my head I have to concentrate on seeing my fingers and even tho the text is right in front of me I am no longer concentrating on the text but my moving fingers.
I don't find this to be much of a problem because I have taught my self to be constantly moving my field of view, that is don't stare at the one object for long but it makes the looking ahead at track a little tricky because if I'm looking a head I lose awareness of the track near by.
Advice would be welcome.


(Wow, long story)

DarkSunrise 09-18-2013 06:51 PM

I started a thread on this earlier, but this is the one I'm guilty of sometimes:

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Most people’s minds tell them to hold the inside just a hair longer to the point where they start releasing the wheel and adding throttle and by the time they’re pointed straight they're a car width away from the edge. That way feels safe, and it is safer but it’s not as fast. ... If you end up in the middle of the track then start unwinding your steering a little earlier.


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