Scion FR-S with 18x8.5 Gram Lights 57xtremes all around?
 

I am looking for a square setup with these wheels, but all I can really find with these are 18x9.5 or a staggered set up. I need to know if they look good when you go with 18x8.5 because they look fairly flat with this set up.

EDIT: Hey guys, I found some pictures on the internet after "tirelessly" searching. They look good, but I still would like some pics from people who have the square 8.5 setup.

http://vrechise.com/getimage.php?i=GL57X_8.jpg
http://vrechise.com/getimage.php?i=GL57X_3.jpg

Ya they'd be flat. That style has no concave till 9.5"

That is my fear. I don't want 9.5" though(too wide), or stagger(the whole understeer thing). Need pictures though, before making my decision.

Are you tracking the car and looking for square setup for that purpose? Most all wheel selections I've seen "especially higher end wheels" for twins have little to no concave till 9.5" actually aside from some Rota varieties which some in 8.5" do have some concave.

Ray's is doing a concave 8.5 +42 - I've ordered them and due to arrive in November

http://www.rayswheels.co.jp/2009/pro...de=GL_57Xtreme

'Face-2' 18x8.5 +42 - same face as the 18x9.5 +40

Now are you telling me, that it will have the concavity of the 9.5" wheel? I mean it won't be as crazy, but you get what I am saying.

I don't plan on tracking the car. I do autocross at least once a month(usually twice), so any understeer is no good, but the car is also a DD. I am fine with no concave(although it is dead sexy), as long as the wheels look great without.

I'm hoping it will be since its the same face but I guess it'll be in proportion. To be honest, I'm taking on a risk as I like the size and offset of the wheel. If it doesn't come out the way I like it, I'll sell them

Moving the hub 3mm inward isn't going to make that much of a difference when you compare that to an extra inch of wheel and -5mm on the hub on the 9.5. I wouldn't expect anything other than a "slight" concave on the 42mm 8.5.

Who knows maybe the mould is different and they found a way to have a similar concavity with the avalible space. One can always hope. I'm eagerly waiting for the pics. :)

you running coilovers? i'd be interested in seeing how these look as well. i have the 8.5 +33 in the front and wish they were more along the style of the rear 9.5 wheels. the one thing that held me back from ordering the face-2 style +42 was the clearance to the spring perch (i'm running swift springs; not coilovers). with the +33 offset, there was quite a bit of clearance. once i installed whiteline camber bushings, it cut that clearance down and also made my front wheels flush at the top. with no camber, there was about 5mm poke from the wheel arch.
i'm wondering if there'd be enough clearance with stock suspension +lowering springs, and 1-1.5° front camber with the +42 wheels.

If you're running +33 already, +42 will move you in 9mm towards the perch. Do you have 9mm of clearance? Just measure it out, if you do, you're golden.

what kind of margin is typically called for, as a minimum? if i had 9mm of clearance i'd be rubbing with +42. stuff flexes.

For stock I'm not sure. I didn't start doing wheel upgrades/measurements until after I swapped to coils. If you do end up with some clearance concerns on an 8.5 running +42 (And you're already fine with +33) Just grab a 5mm spacer and you'll be good to go then you're only +4mm closer to the suspension.

Stilll looks better than I expected!

Other then data print they got any pics anywhere?

not that I've found, I wish there were as it may alleviate my fear about them being a flat face

It would make sense that way, either way I'm just hoping for it not to be a flat face.

For the other post, I'm not running coilovers but will be in the near future.

Will post pics when its all done.

Hey I found a few pictures of the face 2 wheel, but it is 19x8.5. So same width but different height. They do look more concave than the standard wheel.

http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/minka...t=42d666ab3299

http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/minka...t=132a0a661015

Oh sneaky, they push the spokes out a bit more than usual to make it more aggressive.

WOW i did not know that the 8.5 did not have a much concave as the 9.5s i might have to consider different wheels now :/ and what does OP mean by staggered setup? how would this effect how the concave works?

A staggered setup is when you put smaller wheels up front and wider wheels out back. Like 18x8.5 up front and 18x9.5 at the rear. Usually this decreases oversteer but it can also cause understeer. So I want to stay away from this.

Also before you give up on these wheels, wait for pics of the Face 2 design, they look more concave than these ones, but are still 8.5" wide!

also interested in this...

Fine. I'll find a decent pic of my car. You guys put the peer pressure on me!

18x8.5 +33 all around
Michelin Pilot Super Sport 245/35/18
Eibach Pro Kit

This was before I put in camber bolts that helped tuck the front in a little bit.

http://i.imgur.com/NNwSrFH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/d0oZFd0.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LN22DR8.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/NBrUTjI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JR33DVp.jpg

Those look really nice, I am convinced now. These are the wheels I want. Thank you very much sir!

Thanks, that makes sense. I'm not exactly giving up on these wheels, the two things keeping me looking at other options is the price and the color. I feel like the graphite is too dark for WRB and sunlight silver is too bright.

Flat looks ok but if there was option in 8.5" that had some concave this could swing my winter wheel save up program.

Hey there.. Hope it would convince you more :D

18x8.5 square set up with rs-s coil over

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2835/9...aeea9016_z.jpg

absolute champion! :thanks:

Oh sweet baby jesus, that looks really good. What color is that, and how do I order it?

There should be this dark bluish color, I am not sure what it is called. People have it but it looks really nice. I am not quite sure how to order it though, as it isn't on the website(either that or I can't find it).

That's the winning blue color, I think it looks pretty cool on other colors just not on WRB. I would really like a titanium brush finish, similar to our oem wheels. I wonder if it is possible to get that done to the gramlights, because i know forgestar f14 offers their wheels in that finish.

That's matte black.. I love the blue velvet one.. I would've bought the blue velvet one if it had come earlier.

I bought it online. I forget the name of the store, but im pretty sure it's in California. I think u can get it from evasive motorsport.

I just hope the spokes don't stick out the face of the wheel like they do in some rotas. Hate that. :thumbdown:

Looking at those pictures, they do stick out a bit, but not by much. It's really subtle. It's really the only way you're going to get concave face on an 8.5 wheel with +42. Once you start dipping lower you'll get spokes going in.

Makes me miss my AE86. I could sport 14x7 0 offset and have a nice lip. I could go negative and get even more. Most cars now need fender work for those numbers. :(

Any updates on this? Any of you order the 18x8.5 Face 2? I'm saving up for wheels and I love these but I'd hate to have it look flat on the fronts. And if the concave looks good enough, I might even ditch the 18x9.5 and just do 18x8.5 Face 2 all around so I don't get understeer.

I think one person ordered the Face 2s. I really wanted to see pics as well. I know Rays makes these wheels in 17x9 which would give that concave look, shave a few pounds off of the weight and not change the gearing either.

I am waiting also to see the face 2 18 x 8.5. waiting waiting….

what tire size are you using?